BOOM = Civil War / BOOM = uhhh, nothing?

[Doc Destruction]

I have a quick question...so a big boom kills a bunch of kids and the entire world rips into a civil war of superhuman proportions.

A big boom just one month earlier kills a whole bus full of kids in New X-Men and no one says a word?

Anyone else find this odd? I just find it interesting that a civil war breaks out now, and some things 1000 times worse have happened and no one said a word. (New York getting wrecked by Magneto, etc)

 

[jaydawg]

Bitter till the end huh?

 

[Doc Destruction]

Bitter? I'm just curious.

 

[iambilly81]

he does have a point. and what about genosha... just about eveyone there was killed...

 

[Genesis 1.0]

It was just a bunch of stinking Muties, who cares about the stinking abominations anyway?-----------Trask

As to the bus deal, why the big fuss with Rosa Parks and the bus? Racism and fights against it all the time, but that particular moment was the match in a charged atmosphere. My guess is that it was the same thing with the Nitro deal. It was ideal for politicians and the media to take notice because it fit with their agenda.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Probably because they're still using the ammo from the Nitro incident. Since it killed a bunch more people.

 

[Darthphere]

I have a quick question...so a big boom kills a bunch of kids and the entire world rips into a civil war of superhuman proportions.

A big boom just one month earlier kills a whole bus full of kids in New X-Men and no one says a word?

Anyone else find this odd? I just find it interesting that a civil war breaks out now, and some things 1000 times worse have happened and no one said a word. (New York getting wrecked by Magneto, etc)

Heres why:

Nobody cares about mutants and nobody cares about what happens in New X-Men.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I care

 

[Darthphere]

Clearly, were talking about the same atrocious arc thats just been one big killing spree with really no plot or point behind of it. As far as im concerned New X-Men doesnt even exist.


And Doc, youre a cool guy but this marvel hate has just reached a new low, even for you.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Clearly, were talking about the same atrocious arc thats just been one big killing spree with really no plot or point behind of it. As far as im concerned New X-Men doesnt even exist.


And Doc, youre a cool guy but this marvel hate has just reached a new low, even for you.

And just when I think being disowned by you couldn't get any more embarassing, you show me a level below peon.

 

[Darthphere]

And just when I think being disowned by you couldn't get any more embarassing, you show me a level below peon.

Ok?

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

New X-Men rocks. Get a life.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Clearly, were talking about the same atrocious arc thats just been one big killing spree with really no plot or point behind of it. As far as im concerned New X-Men doesnt even exist.


And Doc, youre a cool guy but this marvel hate has just reached a new low, even for you.

Errrr, hate? I was asking why 1 school blowing up carries such a GIGANTIC set of ramifications when far far worse things have happened. Like, the amount of collateral damage that happens to NYC every 15 minutes.

I would LOVE if the story was more of a series of events LIKE the school that happened in such rapid fire succession that the government had finally said ENOUGH!

Not really sure how you guys are gathering Marvel hate from my question. It's a good idea, I just wonder why this one event is such a big deal.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Errrr, hate? I was asking why 1 school blowing up carries such a GIGANTIC set of ramifications when far far worse things have happened. Like, the amount of collateral damage that happens to NYC every 15 minutes.

I would LOVE if the story was more of a series of events LIKE the school that happened in such rapid fire succession that the government had finally said ENOUGH!

Not really sure how you guys are gathering Marvel hate from my question. It's a good idea, I just wonder why this one event is such a big deal.

It WOULD be cool if they used more than just the Nitro incident. And they reflected more on the underaged heros and such.

 

[Darthphere]

Errrr, hate? I was asking why 1 school blowing up carries such a GIGANTIC set of ramifications when far far worse things have happened. Like, the amount of collateral damage that happens to NYC every 15 minutes.

I would LOVE if the story was more of a series of events LIKE the school that happened in such rapid fire succession that the government had finally said ENOUGH!

Not really sure how you guys are gathering Marvel hate from my question. It's a good idea, I just wonder why this one event is such a big deal.

Plot convenience. Thats all it is. You know this.

 

[Darthphere]

New X-Men rocks. Get a life.

OMG!!!! YOURE SO COOL!

 

[Xofenroht]

I would imagine because these are humans and those were mutants. The government already has a tight wrap on mutants now anyway. Aren't they all registered now considering their numbers are so low?

 

[Doc Destruction]

Plot convenience. Thats all it is. You know this.

I wish it was more than that.

Imagine if Civil War #1 was the school blowing up. Then, when the heroes were cleaning up, BANG another event happens on the other side of the country (like Punisher stuff, or something...a kid gets gunned down). Then another thing a day later. Then another.

THEN we'd probably feel better for the Pro-Registration group.

 

[Darthphere]

I would imagine because these are humans and those were mutants. The government already has a tight wrap on mutants now anyway. Aren't they all registered now considering their numbers are so low?

Probably, I dont know whats so hard to get. Civil War needed a catalyst, so they blew up some kids, it was a plot convenience. New X-Men needed shocking moments to hide crappy story telling, lets kill a whole bunch of kids. And pretty much everything in Morrison's run has been retconned out, possibly even including his destruction on ew York, which by the way only really affected the X-Men title. I dont remember the Fantastic Four dealing with it.

 

[Darthphere]

I wish it was more than that.

Imagine if Civil War #1 was the school blowing up. Then, when the heroes were cleaning up, BANG another event happens on the other side of the country (like Punisher stuff, or something...a kid gets gunned down). Then another thing a day later. Then another.

THEN we'd probably feel better for the Pro-Registration group.

I think they have referenced past events in the Civil War as well. The Stamford incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back.


Wait, I thought you werent reading Civil War?

 

[storyteller]

I like how in frontline, hornet(or whatever his name is) goes to jail for the registration. The guys there call him a baby killer but none of those inmates in their are in jail for tax evasion............These are the guys frank castle kills






oh god wouldnt it be glorious is frank castle ends civil war himself.

 

[Darthphere]

I like how in frontline, hornet(or whatever his name is) goes to jail for the registration. The guys there call him a baby killer but none of those inmates in their are in jail for tax evasion............These are the guys frank castle kills






oh god wouldnt it be glorious is frank castle ends civil war himself.

Yeah, its really not that wierd, mass murderers totally **** up child rapists in jail so....

 

[Doc Destruction]

I bought #1. It wasn't too bad, and the idea is solid, but the reactions were so off the scale to one bad thing happening that I stopped. Glad I did, because #2 would have sent me up the clock tower.

Past events is one thing, but it really would have struck home better if it was a few things at once happening to really make the government put their foot down, IMO.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Yeah, its really not that wierd, mass murderers totally **** up child rapists in jail so....

He's right. You mess with kids and prisoners will kill your ass. Ask Jeffrey Dahmer. It's some weird honor code they have.

 

[Xofenroht]

I wish it was more than that.

Imagine if Civil War #1 was the school blowing up. Then, when the heroes were cleaning up, BANG another event happens on the other side of the country (like Punisher stuff, or something...a kid gets gunned down). Then another thing a day later. Then another.

THEN we'd probably feel better for the Pro-Registration group.

Isn't it enough that things have been happening for as long as these stories have been told?
We KNOW there is mass destruction during battles and such, so why do we need more than what was presented in Civil War in order to better justify what's going on in Civil War? This whole miniseries has alot to do with long time comic readers/Marvel fans, considering it depends on any prior knowledge we've had of how things have gone down.
In addition to that, they were proposing the SHRA BEFORE the Stamford Incident. The Incident itself simply sped it up and added fuel to the fire. Besides, they needed something fresh and new on people's minds in order to cause the heroes to feel so strongly about it. You can't say "Well..Genosha." because that has already been dealt with and is mutant related and the mutant/human tension is already there.