Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

[AndrewGilkison]

I think he's holding out for Bond, and to be honest I don't think he has the "voice" for Batman.

 

[Lithium]

In a movie where an 12 year old could be running around with a katana and doing backflips off of trained assassins while his mother makes clones of him, I don’t think the age of his father will make or break the film/casting tbh.

 

[Lithium]

I don’t think they will reach for a young aesthetic for the character either, like they did with Pattinson. Even if the actor is in his early to mid 30’s, he won’t be chilling in baggy t-shirts and grungy hair like Pattinson. It’ll obviously set it apart and place this Bruce in a mature aesthetic without having to rely on the actor’s age on his imdb page or forehead wrinkles to tell us his experience. Crossover/conflating this Bruce with Pattinson’s seems like a non-issue tbh, especially given the fact that we could end up seeing this Batman run around in skin tight underwoos lol.

 

[Lithium]

I’m sure it’s been said already too, but if they treat this Batman like any other version of Batman in different mediums, they’ll want to use the **** out of him. I could see them getting an actor that will have to be content with frequent appearances in film, television, animation, and now possibly video games, or at least be open and available for those opportunities.

 

[Invader Joker]

In a movie where an 12 year old could be running around with a katana and doing backflips off of trained assassins while his mother makes clones of him, I don’t think the age of his father will make or break the film/casting tbh.

Visually it has to work though. Just because a movie has fantastical elements doesn't mean you can just throw very simple logical things out the window. Even Gunn had a certain logic for everything in regards to TSS and Guardians. It's like what he said about height, it's about storytelling.

 

[Invader Joker]

I’m sure it’s been said already too, but if they treat this Batman like any other version of Batman in different mediums, they’ll want to use the **** out of him. I could see them getting an actor that will have to be content with frequent appearances in film, television, animation, and now possibly video games, or at least be open and available for those opportunities.

And there are several actors in their 40s that could and would do all that for the next 10 years.

 

[Sawyer]

Y’all already struck gold with Lee Pace and yet you keep on digging…

 

[Invader Joker]

Y’all already struck gold with Lee Pace and yet you keep on digging…

Gunn should just cast him already. Screentests and script be damned. He's not gonna find a better fit than him.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Gunn should cast him... for Brainiac in Superman Legacy.

 

[Boom]

Y’all already struck gold with Lee Pace and yet you keep on digging…

The likelihood of getting a win that massive isn't great. Hence contingencies.

 

[emielaen]

Yeah, Pace is a pretty damn good look for it. And he's worked w Gunn before, sooooo... here's hoping.

 

[TMP98]

Man now that I think about it I can't help but feel we may be overlooking Bradley Cooper same way people overlooked Ben Affleck 10 years ago.

Bradley Cooper is WB's golden boy. He's had an extraordinarily strong and consistent relationship with them over the past decade and he's given them quite a bit of Oscars. He's extremely connected and respected all across the industry, and he has a ridiculous amount of pull in Hollywood. It's kinda impossible to deny his resume in that sense, so he's someone that Zaslav would probably want.

And while Gunn may care a bit less about that sort of thing (tho granted, now that he's a studio head he also can't overlook how having someone with that amount of clout over the industry would be a massive help for the DCU) the fact of the matter is that he's been collaborating with Cooper as well for a decade now. Not only that, but Cooper plays in the GoTG the character that, in Gunn's words, is the entire heart of that movie and the character he feels the most deeply connected to, so he obviously must think very highly of him as a performer to give him Rocket and probably has a very strong relationship there.

And as interested as Cooper seems to be on awards films and such, he also seems to have some degree of interest in blockbusters and things of that nature; plus he seems like the type of actor that's very mindful about his legacy and reputation in Hollywood, so it's possible he'd want to add "Batman" to the list of things that'd make him remarkable. He's already dipped his toes a bit on the franchise by producing Joker.

The only downside to him is his age, he's 48 and I don't know if they wanna go that old but...

He looks really young for his age. This was taken a few months ago and he can easily still pass for being in his late 30s. He has the same "ageless" quality to him that Paul Rudd or Tom Cruise has, which might work really well for a mature Batman. He seems like the type of guy that in 10 years will still look the same and probably be in pretty good shape. It's not hard to imagine him as being an action star even in his late 50s/early 60s.

He's a highly respected actor, he can definitely voice act, he looks the part, he's highly esteemed by both Gunn and WB. He's the one actor that, even if Gunn ideally has an age range of 35-45 in his mind, Gunn would probably make an exception to and go older if Cooper says he wants the part. The amount of benefits he'd bring to the DCU are too high to ignore.

I agree with the reasoning but it’s why I think he might be Lex for Gunn’s Superman. Would also put him in a role played exclusively by oscar winners/nominated actors in the past, which fits with Cooper since I’m sure he’d like being considered the new gene hackman.

 

[old city outlaw]

I'm still on the Lee Pace hype train but Gyllenhaal is always worth keeping in mind.

 

[Invader Joker]

Here's a dark horse/wildcard pick: Matthias Schoenarts.
He was Snyder's second choice for Batman after Affleck, and back then he turned down the role because he was too young. His career isn't exactly firing in all cilinders at the moment either so maybe he'd consider it.

He's 45, 6'2.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Here's a dark horse/wildcard pick: Matthias Schoenarts.
He was Snyder's second choice for Batman after Affleck, and back then he turned down the role because he was too young. His career isn't exactly firing in all cilinders at the moment either so maybe he'd consider it.


He's 45, 6'2.

I don't know. This might sound silly, but given the studio's plans to use the same actors across all mediums, I think they'll at least try to get someone who translates well to animation. Heughan might be a little too old for the part (and I have no idea what his acting chops are like), but I can definitely see them going with a similar type. And if not for his youthful looks and short stature, Taron Egerton might've been a contender as well.

From the other names mentioned, Bateman probably works, as does Claflin. Pace too, but you already know my stance on the age thing. lol

 

[Invader Joker]

I don't know. This might sound silly, but given the studio's plans to use the same actors across all mediums, I think they'll at least try to get someone who translates well to animation. Heughan might be a little too old for the part (and I have no idea what his acting chops are like), but I can definitely see them going with a similar type. And if not for his youthful looks and short stature, Taron Egerton might've been a contender as well.

From the other names mentioned, Bateman probably works, as does Claflin. Pace too, but you already know my stance on the age thing. lol

Claflin strikes me as looking the exact same age as Pattinson does, would probably look identical on the cowl, and there's nothing in his resume that makes me think he'd be undeniable enough to get cast as this particular Batman. Even if they go younger I reaaally don't think it'd be him, but he could be a contender for Hal Jordan or something. He just doesn't really have the look for a patriarch Batman.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Claflin strikes me as looking the exact same age as Pattinson does, would probably look identical on the cowl, and there's nothing in his resume that makes me think he'd be undeniable enough to get cast as this particular Batman. Even if they go younger I reaaally don't think it'd be him, but he could be a contender for Hal Jordan or something. He just doesn't really have the look for a patriarch Batman.

He looks somewhat older than Pattinson to me, but that wasn't really my point. I'm just saying that he (along w/ some of the others mentioned) might look the part in both live-action and animation, the latter of which could be a factor in casting the role. Schoenarts wouldn't IMO.

 

[Invader Joker]

He looks somewhat older than Pattinson to me, but that wasn't really my point. I'm just saying that he (along w/ some of the others mentioned) might look the part in both live-action and animation, the latter of which could be a factor in casting the role. Schoenarts wouldn't IMO.

Oh yeah, that's a good point as well. Part of why I'm straight up ruling out people like Adam Driver. It's kinda wild because basically the criteria the actor has to fit for this is:
-Has to be an actor that'd be willing to commit for a 10 year plan.
-Has to be an actor with at least a cool voice for voice acting, or that can at least pull it off.
-Has to look cool for a Batman in animation as well.
-Has to look and feel distinctive from Pattinson, while also still looking like Batman.
-Has to look the part of a Batman that has trained several vigilantes.
-Obviously, needs to be a good, if not great, actor.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Oh yeah, that's a good point as well. Part of why I'm straight up ruling out people like Adam Driver. It's kinda wild because basically the criteria the actor has to fit for this is:
-Has to be an actor that'd be willing to commit for a 10 year plan.
-Has to be an actor with at least a cool voice for voice acting, or that can at least pull it off.
-Has to look cool for a Batman in animation as well.
-Has to look and feel distinctive from Pattinson, while also still looking like Batman.
-Has to look the part of a Batman that has trained several vigilantes.
-Obviously, needs to be a good, if not great, actor.

Yeah, I'd be lying if I said that didn't concern me a little. It's kind of insane when you really think about it.

 

[TMP98]

the voice acting thing really gives gyllenhaal the edge. he just makes too much sense rn and he clearly loves doing big budget **** now

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't see Gyllenhall's voice translating into Batman. An older version of Peter Parker? Absolutely. A Barry Allen recast? I could see that. But Batman? No.

 

[Invader Joker]

the voice acting thing really gives gyllenhaal the edge. he just makes too much sense rn and he clearly loves doing big budget **** now

He's only voice acted in one animated movie where he used his own voice and doesn't have a naturally fitting Batman voice. Granted, he's vocally trained so maybe he can actually change it enough so that he's able to sound like the character, although so far that hasn't really translated into any of his performances (he sounds the same in everything)
If anything I feel the voice acting bit is a major obstacle to him. If he can prove he can make a great Batman voice then that might be the thing that ultimately decides whether he'll get cast.

 

[TMP98]

He's only voice acted in one animated movie where he used his own voice and doesn't have a naturally fitting Batman voice. Granted, he's vocally trained so maybe he can actually change it enough so that he's able to sound like the character, although so far that hasn't really translated into any of his performances (he sounds the same in everything)
If anything I feel the voice acting bit is a major obstacle to him. If he can prove he can make a great Batman voice then that might be the thing that ultimately decides whether he'll get cast.

idk, his normal speaking register would work for bruce wayne and he can even use it to play up the aloofness. He's changed his voice for roles like Okja, I don't think it'd be a stretch to change it to batman - especially since this is morrison's take which really isn't as heavy on the grittiness as past live-action Batmen have been, so the brooding bat-voice isn't a be-all end-all since there's going to be a lot more levity with the introduction of damien (knowing gunn, I wouldn't even be shocked by the inclusion of bat-cow during this run).
Also, it's pretty clear that Gyllenhaal loves doing these kinds of projects - I could easily see him pulling an rdj and do nothing but bat-films for the next decade since it kind of seems like he's given up on smaller projects for the time being

 

[Invader Joker]

idk, his normal speaking register would work for bruce wayne and he can even use it to play up the aloofness. He's changed his voice for roles like Okja, I don't think it'd be a stretch to change it to batman - especially since this is morrison's take which really isn't as heavy on the grittiness as past live-action Batmen have been, so the brooding bat-voice isn't a be-all end-all since there's going to be a lot more levity with the introduction of damien (knowing gunn, I wouldn't even be shocked by the inclusion of bat-cow during this run).
Also, it's pretty clear that Gyllenhaal loves doing these kinds of projects - I could easily see him pulling an rdj and do nothing but bat-films for the next decade since it kind of seems like he's given up on smaller projects for the time being

Well...

Also, I guess Morrison's run is not as "gritty" in the sense of realism, but other than that it's probably one of the darkest Batman runs out there. Morrison did not shy away at all from making some of the most ****ed up scenarios for Batman to go through, and Batman himself was always represented as an uncompromising beast with a lot of intensity towards everything he did; it may be the most intense versions of Batman out there, quite brooding as well. It's those qualities that actually make me think as Gyllenhaal as being able to portray this version of Batman quite well since he's good with intense characters, it's just the fact that I don't know how his Batman voice would sound like that'd give me pause but I'd trust he could come up with something, he changes his voice quite a bit when singing as well.

Damian's Robin technically brings levity... but the dark humor type of levity, seeing how he also does stuff like this:



It's really no wonder why Gunn chose this run to base his Batman off.

 

[TMP98]

Also, I guess Morrison's run is not as "gritty" in the sense of realism, but other than that it's probably one of the darkest Batman runs out there. Morrison did not shy away at all from making some of the most ****ed up scenarios for Batman to go through, and Batman himself was always represented as an uncompromising beast with a lot of intensity towards everything he did; it may be the most intense versions of Batman out there, quite brooding as well. It's those qualities that actually make me think as Gyllenhaal as being able to portray this version of Batman quite well since he's good with intense characters, it's just the fact that I don't know how his Batman voice would sound like that'd give me pause but I'd trust he could come up with something.

He'd be a great batman of zur-en-arrh if anything