Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

[Invader Joker]

idk if you know this, but Adam Driver is considered a very sexy man and can be a dark brooding hero. Doesn't seem not traditional at all.

I don't care if he's considered sexy by some or not (although even in that aspect he's kinda polarizing, I mean I saw a lot of posts on twitter saying the opposite when the Reed Richards rumors started going around), it's that regardless of that I don't like his look and I don't think it fits Bruce at all much less based on the classic portrayals. There are plenty of sex symbols out there that I wouldn't like to see as Batman and that don't fit the "traditional mold" of his look either.

I agree that performance wise he could probably pull it off, hence why I said he'd probably give a fine performance in a podcast, animated movie or something, but his look is just too far off from anything resembling Bruce Wayne it's just distracting for a live-action film. Don't think he'd look good as Bruce Wayne (In fact aside from being white I don't think he looks anything like any version of Bruce period) think he'd look even worse as Batman. Looks aren't everything but even screen tests exist for a reason and in that aspect I think he'd fail miserably.

Also he's at a point in his career where the prospect of signing on to a 10 year plan that'll require him to participate in even more films and projects than even something like the MCU just sounds non-sensical for him. He's not a possibility worth entertaining because he's unlikely from all angles.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Driver would be better suited to playing a more niche version of Batman, IMO. But as Corenswet, Brosnahan, and a few of the other more recent castings for the DCU (and all-but-confirmed ones like Gisondo) seem to be following a rather comic-accurate trend, coupled with Gunn's already announced plans to use the same actors across animation—where image is generally more consistent w/ the source material—I suspect that he'll want a more traditional-looking Bruce Wayne as well. That isn't to say that any potential actor who doesn't look like he stepped right out of the pages of a comic is wrong for the part. I just imagine that Gunn will want more conventional leading man types is all, those who conform to a Bruce Wayne type even if they don't necessarily resemble the character to a tee. And I really don't see Driver as a Bruce Wayne type, if I'm being honest.

 

[B]

I am very confident on ruling out all the dudes that are already tangled in other franchises and would cost like 10 million since the first film.

Unlikely, I'll give you, however I'd have probably said the same thing about Ben Affleck for Batman & you can probably count the number of people that thought he was a legitimate candidate for the role prior to his casting on one hand.

 

[Invader Joker]

Unlikely, I'll give you, however I'd have probably said the same thing about Ben Affleck for Batman & you can probably count the number of people that thought he was a legitimate candidate for the role prior to his casting on one hand.

Affleck wasn't tangled up in any other franchise prior to BvS. And I honestly don't know how he went over everyone's heads at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20 but he was WB's golden boy at the time, he looked pretty much exactly like comic Bruce Wayne which would obviously have appealed to Snyder, he was in an image rehab project as an actor (and while as a director his reputation had been impecable, no such thing can be said of him as an actor. It made sense why as an actor he'd think he needed a role like this.) so him moving on to play an iconic character that was last played by Christian Bale and becoming the RDJ of the DCEU sounded like a no-brainer, he had expressed fanaticism for comic books before, and as a director he had expressed desire to potentially do a comic book film so the prospect of him wanting to direct a Batman film also was obvious in hindsight.

There are plenty of arguments that could've been done in his favor back then that you can't make in any way for any current "A-lister" except, like I said before, maybe Gyllenhaal.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Driver's biggest problem is that he'd look like **** in the cowl lol

Disagree. You just have to make a cowl that suits his face. They’d be insanely lucky to have Driver in any big role in the DCU

 

[Invader Joker]

Disagree. You just have to make a cowl that suits his face. They’d be insanely lucky to have Driver in any big role in the DCU

Like I said I'd have to see a manip but I think it's flat out impossible to make a cowl that fits Driver's face and looks good. His lower face area just doesn't work for that sort of mask.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Like I said I'd have to see a manip but I think it's flat out impossible to make a cowl that fits Driver's face and looks good. His lower face area just doesn't work for that sort of mask.

I just fundamentally disagree, I think a professional costume designer can make almost any face look good in the cowl despite how badly even actors with great faces have looked in them in the past. And, even so, I think Driver is such a good choice that I’d accept him looking goofy at times - they all look like goobers in the cowl from certain angles.

They aren’t gonna get an actor like Driver anyway. One of the many, many downsides of a big shared universe.

 

[Invader Joker]

I just fundamentally disagree, I think a professional costume designer can make almost any face look good in the cowl despite how badly even actors with great faces have looked in them in the past. And, even so, I think Driver is such a good choice that I’d accept him looking goofy at times - they all look like goobers in the cowl from certain angles.

They aren’t gonna get an actor like Driver anyway. One of the many, many downsides of a big shared universe.

I'll just have to disagree on that. I think his look both as Bruce Wayne and Batman would be pretty bad and distracting.

 

[B]

Affleck wasn't tangled up in any other franchise prior to BvS. And I honestly don't know how he went over everyone's heads at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20 but he was WB's golden boy at the time, he looked pretty much exactly like comic Bruce Wayne which would obviously have appealed to Snyder, he was in an image rehab project as an actor (and while as a director his reputation had been impecable, no such thing can be said of him as an actor. It made sense why as an actor he'd think he needed a role like this.) so him moving on to play an iconic character that was last played by Christian Bale and becoming the RDJ of the DCEU sounded like a no-brainer, he had expressed fanaticism for comic books before, and as a director he had expressed desire to potentially do a comic book film so the prospect of him wanting to direct a Batman film also was obvious in hindsight.

There are plenty of arguments that could've been done in his favor back then that you can't make in any way for any current "A-lister" except, like I said before, maybe Gyllenhaal.

It doesn't matter what the reasons were, the point is he was on very few people's radar outside the BvS production for the part before being almost shockingly cast out of the blue.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Affleck wasn't tangled up in any other franchise prior to BvS. And I honestly don't know how he went over everyone's heads at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20 but he was WB's golden boy at the time, he looked pretty much exactly like comic Bruce Wayne which would obviously have appealed to Snyder, he was in an image rehab project as an actor (and while as a director his reputation had been impecable, no such thing can be said of him as an actor. It made sense why as an actor he'd think he needed a role like this.) so him moving on to play an iconic character that was last played by Christian Bale and becoming the RDJ of the DCEU sounded like a no-brainer, he had expressed fanaticism for comic books before, and as a director he had expressed desire to potentially do a comic book film so the prospect of him wanting to direct a Batman film also was obvious in hindsight.

There are plenty of arguments that could've been done in his favor back then that you can't make in any way for any current "A-lister" except, like I said before, maybe Gyllenhaal.

Back then you would have discounted him because before BvS offered him the chance to direct Justice League and star as Batman and he turned in down.

 

[Invader Joker]

It doesn't matter what the reasons were, the point is he was on very few people's radar outside the BvS production for the part before being almost shockingly cast out of the blue.

The reasons matter if you want to make comparisons.

 

[Invader Joker]

Back then you would have discounted him because before BvS offered him the chance to direct Justice League and star as Batman and he turned in down.

I recall him later giving an interview where he said that he was now open to directing a CBM or action film after Argo because of the success of the Avengers. And I may have discounted the possibility of him as a director but I genuinely don't understand why he flew over everyone's heads as an actor when he was extremely obvious in terms of what Snyder and WB would be looking for and also what made sense for his career. The JL film he was offered to direct didn't involve him as Batman, either.

 

[Eddie Dean]

He also talked for years about how he was embarrassed by Daredevil and was hesitant to put on tights again. It was a very unexpected choice.

 

[Invader Joker]

He also talked for years about how he was embarrassed by Daredevil and was hesitant to put on tights again. It was a very unexpected choice.

Again, he changed his tune on all that after Avengers came out.

 

[Eddie Dean]

ok.

 

[B]

The reasons matter if you want to make comparisons.

They don't matter because the only comparison I'm making is that surprising casting choices happen all the time.

 

[Invader Joker]

They don't matter because the only comparison I'm making is that surprising casting choices happen all the time.

That's the most BS way to look at things lol Just because Ben Affleck got cast as Batman doesn't suddenly mean Adam Sandler has the same likelihood.

 

[B]

He also talked for years about how he was embarrassed by Daredevil and was hesitant to put on tights again. It was a very unexpected choice.

This is exactly what I had read & one of the reasons his name popped into my head, not to mention at the time he was cast it seemed like he was more interested in directing and/or more 'serious' projects.

Again, he changed his tune on all that after Avengers came out.

You've made another point for me, just because an actor shows hesitance or interesting in doing something, doesn't mean they won't have a change of heart.

 

[B]

That's the most BS way to look at things lol Just because Ben Affleck got cast as Batman doesn't suddenly mean Adam Sandler has the same likelihood.

It's Hollywood. Reasoning & logic doesn't always apply.

Nicolas Cage was cast as Superman, Tom Hanks I believe was legitimately in the running to be Batman in '89 I think I read.

Heck speaking of Batman '89 Marlon Wayans was cast as Robin but his role was eventually cut from I think it was either '89 or Returns.. or both.

 

[TMP98]

Driver is a significantly more exciting choice than someone like Pace, but he’s also way too exciting to be in a Muschietti movie so maybe it’s for the best he not do this haha

 

[Invader Joker]

It's Hollywood. Reasoning & logic doesn't always apply.

Nicolas Cage was cast as Superman, Tom Hanks I believe was legitimately in the running to be Batman in '89 I think I read.

Heck speaking of Batman '89 Marlon Wayans was cast as Robin but his role was eventually cut from I think it was either '89 or Returns.. or both.

Nicolas Cage was cast as Superman by the same exact guy that cast Michael Keaton as Batman. Same guy who also didn't like the comics and went on and on about how his purpose was to reinvent the character. There is a logic to that. Same with Wayans as Robin. Here we are talking about the guy that cast Corenswet as Superman, is a mega-fan of the comics and has explicitly stated he sees no need to change iconic characters like Batman.

You've made another point for me, just because an actor shows hesitance or interesting in doing something, doesn't mean they won't have a change of heart.

Hesitancy is like the least of the problems I signalled with most of these A-listers.
Most of the problems I listed stem from them already being in other CBM franchises like Isaac and Hardy or being extremely ill-suited to play a traditional version of the character like Driver.
Also goddamn this discussion is so pointless given how little Gunn cares about getting A-listers, there's genuinely zero reason to think he'd prioritize getting a known actor for this in any way and yet here we've gone over 5 pages. He's never given a **** about getting stars in his entire career, why the hell would he change his mind when it comes to Batman, who is a bigger star than any actor anyway? I've yet to read a single argument as to why he'd suddenly care now about it and yet some people are for some reason convinced that's gonna be a major sticking point for him lol.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Well it’s gone on because you will not change your mind about it for some pretty silly reasons and taking your personal opinions as objective facts.

 

[Invader Joker]

Well it’s gone on because you will not change your mind about it for some pretty silly reasons and taking your personal opinions as objective facts.

Change my mind about what? The one that's not making any argument or making silly ones is you. You still have not shown a single piece of evidence that'd single out Gunn as giving even the slightest **** about casting an A-lister for this yet for some reason you keep convinced about it even when the examples you yourself point out of Gunn's casting also make it clear he does not give a **** about it. And hell, your entire counter-argument in regards to Driver and how he has an extremely non-traditional look for Bruce was "well some people think he's hot", and for Isaac and Hardy being tangled up in the MCU and Sonyverse you literally said nothing except trolling.

 

[flickchick85]

How ‘bout this: no one’s changing anyone else’s mind here so just accept you have different viewpoints and move on.

 

[Boom]

Besides, Adam Driver is The Shadow.

The whole point of this thread is to speculate and have fun. We don't know what direction Gunn will go in for Batman. Maybe it'll be an A-lister. Maybe not. Almost nobody took the idea of Pattinson seriously because we all thought he'd never want to do it. Sometimes you'd be surprised.