Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

[ArmsHeldOut]

Mark Rylance, a solid British actor, has been my top pick to play Alfred for a little while now. Unconvinced? Watch his performance in The Outfit: he embodies the character in everything but name here. And yeah, it'll be nice to have an Alfred who actually looks like Alfred for a change.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Groff would make a good Maxwell Lord, as per Frodo's suggestion in another thread.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Mark Rylance, a solid British actor, has been my top pick to play Alfred for a little while now. Unconvinced? Watch his performance in The Outfit: he embodies the character in everything but name here. And yeah, it'll be nice to have an Alfred who actually looks like Alfred for a change.

Put a mustache on him and he would look absolutely spot on.

 

[BobJM]

I’m still holding out for Pierce Brosnan as Alfred

 

[Lily Adler]

Lee Pace would be perfect.

 

[J.Drangal]

Jean Reno or Shaun Toub as Ras

I'll always regret Jean Reno never having the opportunity to play Mr. Freeze. Probably my biggest fan-cast. The look, the voice, the ability to go from threatening to touching in a second... He would have nailed it!
At 74 years old now, it's obviously too late, even if the guy still looks really great and sharp.

I think Driver would be a much better fit for The Joker in this universe than he would be for Batman.

Adam Driver was on my list for The Batman before Pattinson got cast.
I can see that guy in so many role : Dent, Hugo Strange, even Freeze.
Wouldn't mind seeing him becoming the dark knight here, as I think he could balance a dangerous vibe with something lighter very well (I think this will be the overall direction if the Batfamily in introduced). But I also think he'd be great facing Battinson...

Yeah, for now, I really don't have any actor in mind for the role...

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Adam Driver was on my list for The Batman before Pattinson got cast.
I can see that guy in so many role : Dent, Hugo Strange, even Freeze.
Wouldn't mind seeing him becoming the dark knight here, as I think he could balance a dangerous vibe with something lighter very well (I think this will be the overall direction if the Batfamily in introduced). But I also think he'd be great facing Battinson...

But yeah, for now, I really don't have any actor in mind for the role...

I just don't like his look for Bruce or Batman. Especially not what I think they are going to go for, which is a more comic book take (instead of a Tim Burton type take). He just doesn't fit that.

But The Joker on the other hand... holy ****. I can absolutely see him as the live action version of the DCAU/Arkham Mark Hamill style Joker. They need to cast him for that role.

 

[J.Drangal]

I just don't like his look for Bruce or Batman. Especially not what I think they are going to go for, which is a more comic book take (instead of a Tim Burton type take). He just doesn't fit that.

But The Joker on the other hand... holy ****. I can absolutely see him as the live action version of the DCAU/Arkham Mark Hamill style Joker. They need to cast him for that role.

I understand what you say when talking about a "Tim Burton take" and it's true.
Even if I think Driver could work for a lighter Batman (compared to Battinson), his natural strenght would probably be more suited for something less classic than what Gunn seems to be aiming for (and I don't mean "classic" as "less intersting").

I originally wanted to end my post by saying that I could also see him as the Joker, but I forgot...
Again, his ability to be funny while looking like he could snap at any moment could work great. He also seems to know how to use his voice...

I love Groff a lot and I was the first one to fancast him back when The Batman was casting, but idk if he's necessarily the right pick for a Batman like this. He's in the right age range but his face is still boyish looking so casting a Bat-Family around him, especially Nightwing and Jason Todd would be really hard. Also very secondary since even though Gunn said he wouldn't actively be trying to /not/ be Matt Reeves, I do think there's an argument to be masw he's a bit too close to Pattinson.
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Yep. I know many won't agree but I would have the same problem with him that I had with Hathaway in Catwoman. They are good actors, nothing to say at all about their performance, and they can even look good in costume... but on some os these very archetypal roles (femme fatale, etc), I think you also need, or at least I need, a "little something extra" in there. A certain charisma or vibe, whatever you call it, for me to really buy it.

 

[Invader Joker]

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Looking back on Morrison's run and seriously trying to think of another actor that can pull off that Batman and I seriously can't come up with anyone better than Lee Pace. He just seems so born for it. He can pull off the most James Bond of Morrison's take, he can pull off the most demented and broken from it, and he can pull off the most insane Return of Bruce Wayne stuff as well as all of Final Crisis, standing up to a god. He's just believable and fits all of it, as well as any potential DCAU/Arkham games influences.

 

[Lautox]

I just don't like his look for Bruce or Batman. Especially not what I think they are going to go for, which is a more comic book take (instead of a Tim Burton type take). He just doesn't fit that.

But The Joker on the other hand... holy ****. I can absolutely see him as the live action version of the DCAU/Arkham Mark Hamill style Joker. They need to cast him for that role.

Adam definitely fits more the "Tim Burton take" you are talking about. If Batman 89 was made today he would be one of the candidates, he has that everyday guy look Keaton had plus the intesity.

 

[BobJM]

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Looking back on Morrison's run and seriously trying to think of another actor that can pull off that Batman and I seriously can't come up with anyone better than Lee Pace. He just seems so born for it. He can pull off the most James Bond of Morrison's take, he can pull off the most demented and broken from it, and he can pull off the most insane Return of Bruce Wayne stuff as well as all of Final Crisis, standing up to a god. He's just believable and fits all of it, as well as any potential DCAU/Arkham games influences.
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Yeah, can’t argue with the Lee Pace casting. It does seem pretty spot-on.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

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Looking back on Morrison's run and seriously trying to think of another actor that can pull off that Batman and I seriously can't come up with anyone better than Lee Pace. He just seems so born for it. He can pull off the most James Bond of Morrison's take, he can pull off the most demented and broken from it, and he can pull off the most insane Return of Bruce Wayne stuff as well as all of Final Crisis, standing up to a god. He's just believable and fits all of it, as well as any potential DCAU/Arkham games influences.
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Pace will be 46 or 47 by the time BatB rolls out. I know Gunn's going for an older, seasoned Batman this time around — but not that old IMO.

 

[BobJM]

Logan Lerman for Nightwing

 

[Invader Joker]

Pace will be 46 or 47 by the time BatB rolls out. I know Gunn's going for an older, seasoned Batman this time around — but not that old IMO.

I mean, we don't really know at this point. It's very possible one of the ways that Gunn and Matt settled on going about having two Bat-Men is by making Gunn's Batman quite a bit older than Pattinson's. Also for all we know the aging could be a part of this Batman's arc, especially with the Grayson Batman storyline.
The problem in the DCEU was never about having an "old Batman", the problem was having Ben Affleck who was never going to realistically last 10 years in the role, and wanting to make it TDKR-like.

Until we get a specific clarification of the age range I don't think we can rule out actors in their early to mid 40s, especially one that fits as well as Lee Pace.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I mean, we don't really know at this point. It's very possible one of the ways that Gunn and Matt settled on going about having two Bat-Men is by making Gunn's Batman quite a bit older than Pattinson's. Also for all we know the aging could be a part of this Batman's arc, especially with the Grayson Batman storyline.

I just think it could create unnecessary complications in terms of filling supporting roles and the like. You'd have to make sure that certain actors aren't too young to be his peers, for instance. Even in fancasting roles for The Batman when Ben was still attached, we ran into problems like that. But we'll see what happens.

 

[Invader Joker]

I just think it could create unnecessary complications in terms of filling supporting roles and the like. You'd have to make sure that certain actors aren't too young to be his peers, for instance. Even in fancasting roles for The Batman when Ben was still attached, we ran into problems like that. But we'll see what happens.

You mean supporting characters from Batman's world or characters from the DC world in general? Because I kinda think that even for villains and things like Comissioner Gordon or Alfred there's probably better picks going for the older actors than there is from the younger side.

I also think that the supporting characters that one has to be the most worried about when it comes to this Batman in specific is the Bat-Family. I'd argue that casting a younger actor would cause a lot of problems in terms of getting people as Nightwing or Red Hood.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

You mean supporting characters from Batman's world or characters from the DC world in general? Because I kinda think that even for villains and things like Comissioner Gordon or Alfred there's probably better picks going for the older actors than there is from the younger side.

I also think that the supporting characters that one has to be the most worried about when it comes to this Batman in specific is the Bat-Family. I'd argue that casting a younger actor would cause a lot of problems in terms of getting people as Nightwing or Red Hood.

Batman's world. Selina Kyle, for instance.

Depends on how young you go. Casting a 41-year-old shouldn't be a problem at all.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Also, as we're likely to be getting a peak-human Batman, the actor would need to look the part well into 2035. (He won't have the luxury of donning a metal suit à la RDJ's Iron Man.) And once you hit 50, it becomes that much harder to develop muscle mass. Actors like H.Jackman are the exception, but you see where I'm going with this.

 

[Invader Joker]

Batman's world. Selina Kyle, for instance.

Depends on how young you go. Casting a 41-year-old shouldn't be a problem at all.

I feel like they're tons of actresses out there right now in the late 30s-mid 40s age range that fit for Selina extremely well and would be believable as peers for Lee Pace.

Also, as we're likely to be getting a peak-human Batman, the actor would need to look the part well into 2035. (He won't have the luxury of donning a metal suit à la RDJ's Iron Man.) And once you hit 50, it becomes that much harder to develop muscle mass. Actors like H.Jackman are the exception, but you see where I'm going with this.

I mean... how do we actually know that Gunn intends for this Batman to stay in peak shape by 2035, though? Like I said, for all we know the aging might even factor into the story, he did tease Kingdom Come after all. In fact it'd probably make sense, since the Damian actor would end up growing up a lot as well, and so would the rest of the Bat-Family. Until we get more details I think it'd be best to just look for the best actors for the part, and I really can't find any better fit for this than Lee Pace.

 

[WayneMB]

I'm all aboard the Lee Pace hype train

and if they wanna go a bit younger... (my personal runner up to Pattinson)

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I feel like they're tons of actresses out there right now in the late 30s-mid 40s age range that fit for Selina extremely well and would be believable as peers for Lee Pace.

This is just a personal preference, but I'd prefer that the age gap between them be fairly small.

I mean... how do we actually know that Gunn intends for this Batman to stay in peak shape by 2035, though? Like I said, for all we know the aging might even factor into the story, he did tease Kingdom Come after all. In fact it'd probably make sense, since the Damian actor would end up growing up a lot as well, and so would the rest of the Bat-Family. Until we get more details I think it'd be best to just look for the best actors for the part, and I really can't find any better fit for this than Lee Pace.

As with most Hype discussions, it's partly speculation on my part. But from everything I've seen thus far, Gunn seems intent on adapting the more comic-booky side of things more closely. That means, his Batman could very well end up being the quintessential athlete. And as mentioned before, pulling off that look becomes that much harder when you're pushing 50.

Gunn never teased Kingdom Come IMO: a lot of people merely interpreted his tweet that way. In using said image, I think he was just trying to convey that he was busy making plans; and that was a fun/clever way to do it.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to take that away from you. I just have a hunch that our new Batman will at least be a few years younger than Pace — no older than 42 IMO. But we'll see.

 

[HydraSith12]

I hope the New DCEU Alfred is a Classic Butler like the Nolan and Tim Burton versions i hope the New DCEU Batman World is more like the Mainstream Comics New DCEU Jim Gordon should be White again since i want Barbara Gordon to be White and her being Bat Girl i want her as Bat Girl not Oracle in this Universe i hope the New DCEU Joker comes out later because i feel that there is already a fatigue for the character this version of Joker his skin should be White and not make up like Ledger or Phoenix versions he should not have a Origin maybe they can say he was a Comedian like Phoenix Joker and like the Comics but in this Universe the Story is not 100% sure it was Real the New DCEU Batman should be in his late 30s or early 40s so the New Actor can play him for more time i hope this version of Batman become a Friend of Superman when he meet him and not like the Snyder version who wanted to fight him i hope New DCEU Batman would be in Superman Age or a little Old and not like Snyder version where Snyder Batman was more Older than Superman

 

[Boom]

 

[TMP98]

Watching White Lotus and Theo James could be fun in a few years

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I won't be mad if Oliver Jackson-Cohen ends up nabbing the part. At 36 — over 37 by the time cameras start rolling — he's the perfect age for a prime Batman. He's a solid actor with a certain darkness about him. Visually, there's some resemblance between him and certain depictions of Bruce Wayne: judging by various fanmade manips, he looks right in the cowl. At 6'3", he'd be on par with Corenswet's Superman or a similarly tall actor in the role. He's already shown an interest in playing a Batman-type character in Moon Knight, right? Yeah.