Breevort calls out Dan Slott.

[Dread]

There are very few areas in life that are different than this. High performers are given slack. You name the arena: school, sports, music, business, law, whatever. If you're the top of the heap, no-one is going to say boo to you, lest you take your talents where they're more appreciated. Guys on the way up are subjected to a different set of rules. Fair? Not even a little. But it is life.

I don't agree with Tom Breevort doing something like this publicly, but I would fire him on the spot if he were doing it to big-sellers like Bendis and Millar. And JQ? That's just ridiculous. I mean, good grief, everyone who has publicly criticized their boss, raise their hands. Because he wouldn't just be cutting his throat at Marvel, he'd be committing industry wide suicide.

You have a good point. Sometimes I forget that Marvel's company is just like other places in real life.

"This sucks, but the rest of life does" is always a message I'll agree to.

But then, the fact that "high performers" have such an air of privalage they they feel themselves superior to others and don't have to apply to the same rules as others is probably one of my pet peeves and becomes a host of problems in itself, from celebrities getting slaps on the wrists for crimes "normal folk" do jail-time for, from politicians allowed to do the same "bait and switch" that businesses can get fined for, and so forth. Too meny people feel their farts smell better than the rest of us, forgive the play on words, and that's a major problem.

"That's life", and that's true. But I would like for one day, collective humanity worked harder to make life better, rather than ensuring that the same hardships they had to endure remain indefinately, solely because misery loves company. What petty creatures we are. And I guess I'm still in that stage where, despite my bitterness, when I am confronted by the cold hard fact of how life is, rather than what it should be, I get irked. But don't worry. Life kills all integrity soon enough. Like Spider-Man in CW, we all sell our souls for a few dollars and a roof over our heads, and we all choose to become someone's slave so we can afford our trinkets.

 

[Darthphere]

Ill just say this. Breevort has every right to call out Dan Slott on his lateness. Really, it sucks to hear but he does. But he shouldnt be out there singling a guy out.

 

[Dread]

Ill just say this. Breevort has every right to call out Dan Slott on his lateness. Really, it sucks to hear but he does. But he shouldnt be out there singling a guy out.

Yeah, especially when he's the tip of the iceberg. Top Dogs get perks, but that's also why they think they're better than everyone else.

 

[gildea]

Ill just say this. Breevort has every right to call out Dan Slott on his lateness. Really, it sucks to hear but he does. But he shouldnt be out there singling a guy out.

He's not singling him out.

The person who asked him a question about dan slott done that.


Everyone seems to be talking about this as if Tom B was talking about lateness in the industry as a whole when all he was doing was talking about dan slott.

If I asked anyone a question specific to dan slott and the answer was about kevin smith I'd be all kinds of confused.

 

[Darthphere]

He's not singling him out.

The person who asked him a question about dan slott done that.


Everyone seems to be talking about this as if Tom B was talking about lateness in the industry as a whole when all he was doing was talking about dan slott.

If I asked anyone a question specific to dan slott and the answer was about kevin smith I'd be all kinds of confused.

Point blank, he didnt have to answer the question. I know youre going to defend Marvel to your last breath, but it didnt have to be done. Someone asked a question: No comment. Its that ****ing easy. In answering the question, he singled him out, he publicly embarassed a man. This isnt how you run a business.

 

[gildea]

Point blank, he didnt have to answer the question. I know youre going to defend Marvel to your last breath, but it didnt have to be done.

Don't be silly this isn't about marvel really, its about tom b and his decision. Tom b is not marvel after all.

I have no bizarre loyalty to marvel (you should know I follow creators) but I don't think it's fair to criticise a person for the wrong reasons (almost all criticism seem to say why didn't he comment on smith/millar/hitch etc when asked about slott which is insane).

Someone asked a question: No comment. Its that ****ing easy. In answering the question, he singled him out, he publicly embarassed a man. This isnt how you run a business.

At least this is a criticism I can understand!!!

If someone asks you on personally on a public form "do you have a problem with dan slott" and you answer "no comment" you're inviting all sorts of crazy speculations (which reading the contents of this thread seems to be unavoidable to a certain degree).

From the context of no comment or an honest answer I would probably have picked an honest answer but I concede that no comment is a sensible (and probably more professional) alternative.

 

[Darthphere]

Of course it is!

 

[gildea]

He mentioned in his response that he had a lot of projects all on his plate at once in November/December of last year, and that it took a toll on his health.

I missed that I stand corrected.

Mind you that doesn't excuse the other times and tom B didn't say anything about it then.

 

[gildea]

Of course it is!

do you agree though that would have lead to even more speculation and internet chatter than this though?

I'm fairly sure we'd have a LARGE thread entitled "what is tom b's problem with slott?"

I mean this one is a cut and dried case in actual fact:

-poster asks question to tom whats your problem with slott?
- tom answers "lateness"
-2 months pass
- dan responds "tom has a point and is MY BIGGEST SUPPORTER at marvel"
-the internet "tom is a bully, kevin smith, millar hitch ARRGHHHH"

if we had :
-poster asks question to tom whats your problem with slott?
- tom answers "no comment"
-the internet "cracks in half"

 

[Darthphere]

do you agree though that would have lead to even more speculation and internet chatter than this though?

I'm fairly sure we'd have a LARGE thread entitled "what is tom b's problem with slott?"

Possibly, but it wouldve been all speculation and we'd never get the real story. Like when Hitch's wife was ill, we found out through him, same as Millar and his disease.

 

[Not Jake]

He mentioned in his response that he had a lot of projects all on his plate at once in November/December of last year, and that it took a toll on his health.

I know how he feels, sometimes I get overloaded with people to make fun of at the hype, and all that typing just wears on my health. Typing is soooo irritating, in that it's necessary to get your ideas out, but it also directly weakens your immune system. I'M DAN SLOTT AND I THINK SO HARD IT MAKES ME SICK.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You are a master of hyperbole, Jake-inator.

I missed that I stand corrected.

Mind you that doesn't excuse the other times and tom B didn't say anything about it then.

Apparently it led to the lateness that Brevoort did call him out for, though. Slott indicated that he's got his schedule under control again now and the lateness should stop. Whether that turns out to be the case, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I still support Brevoort's answer as fair, though. Dan Slott turning in a late script on a comic with a set schedule is the same as Chuck Austen or Alan Moore doing it. They agreed to write for the schedule and they ought to write for the schedule. Worst case scenario, Slott should've indicated that he couldn't handle the workload at that pace and gotten someone to fill in for an issue or two so he could catch up, rather than slowing things down across the board. Fill-ins exist for a reason.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

It's nice to know someone's thinking about the business side of things like Breevort there instead of all those other guys (at marvel) like JQ who insist on all this quality-of-story-first lark Shame on them, eh? Breevort will show 'em. Anyway being serious i didnt know dan had problems with deadlines. i've liked what i've read of his stuff and its a shame this had to be done. reading the recent bendis/ slott interview, it seems like video games used to get in the way of his work. hope something as stupid as that hasn't been the cause of recent tardiness. cos thatd be lame.

 

[Kool-Aid]

Dan Slott. A great but poor selling writer whose books rarely get any support from Marvel except when they need them for a crossover event,

They seem to be pushing his new series coming out after CW pretty nice.

 

[Dread]

They seem to be pushing his new series coming out after CW pretty nice.

Exactly, it's like DC pushing OYL titles or BRAVE NEW WORLD-esque relaunches. It's connected to their event so of course they're pushing it. If it's not, then regardless of quality, like THE THING, it's on it's own. Which, in a marketplace of 200+ comics a month, usually leads to death.

But, yes, it is nice that whatever this "mystery series" is, that Marvel is trying to push it.

And if one can get sick by overthinking a storyline, I guess that's why Bendis is always the picture of health! I kid, I kid!

 

[Cyclops]

If you're calling out one writer, you should call out everyone. The grand and exalted Mark Millar who can apparently do no wrong. Kevin Smith who took what? Four years to finish a five issue miniseries? YOUR OWN EDITOR IN ****ING CHIEF WHO CAN'T EVEN BRING HIMSELF TO FINISH ONE LOUSY MINISERIES?

If you're gonna start throwing knives Mister Brevoort, even if the question is only about one person, you better start tossing them out at everyone who deserves 'em.

 

[PhotoJones]

I read it, can I go crazy now?


I agree with Corp, we were discussing this before on AIM. Just seemed pretty harsh, also considering how late Mark Millar's Ultimates and now Civil War are.

hasn't ANYONE heard of "tough love"?

sounds to me like tom b. has all the confidence in the world that slott can be a huge star writer, and he's done nothing but nurture him along.

 

[Darthphere]

hasn't ANYONE heard of "tough love"?

sounds to me like tom b. has all the confidence in the world that slott can be a huge star writer, and he's done nothing but nurture him along.

Theres tough love, and theres there singling out. Wheres his rant againt Millar and McNiven. They are now pushing back theri biggest summer event to a fall/winter event. This also pushes back the new Thor title, Mighty Avengers and all titles spinning out of Civil War. To me thats abigger deal than they ship books a week late which no one is buying.

 

[Not Jake]

If you're calling out one writer, you should call out everyone. The grand and exalted Mark Millar who can apparently do no wrong. Kevin Smith who took what? Four years to finish a five issue miniseries? YOUR OWN EDITOR IN ****ING CHIEF WHO CAN'T EVEN BRING HIMSELF TO FINISH ONE LOUSY MINISERIES?

If you're gonna start throwing knives Mister Brevoort, even if the question is only about one person, you better start tossing them out at everyone who deserves 'em.

Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada aren't full-time writers with multiple books

They have other jobs. Millar is your only good example and I can play the disease card, the Hitch Is Slow card, and probably others. So...

 

[Cyclops]

Yeah, but that doesn't matter. If you start a project, regardless of whether or not you have other jobs, you should finish it on time or not start it at all.

 

[Not Jake]

You are a master of hyperbole, Jake-inator.

I know. What happens if I start putting out insults a month late? People would turn their loving eyes away from me. So eat me Slott, and write your fan non-fics on time.

 

[Not Jake]

Yeah, but that doesn't matter. If you start a project, regardless of whether or not you have other jobs, you should finish it on time or not start it at all.

So says my girlfriend.

 

[Not Jake]

...when we're having sex, you see. A sex joke. Not a great one. But there it stands.

 

[Not Jake]

Sometimes when I rush jokes they turn out poorly. That's somehow applicable to this thread.

 

[Hush]

Why does your sig say "the hype sucks now", Not Jake??