Transformers brief sexual humor, and language.

[jdre_124]

The kiddies probably don't get all the references...

Hell, when I was 9 and saw Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls, I had no idea that he was whackin' it to the princess, when he was goin' "Oh momma, oh momma, ohhhhh momma...." I was just confused.

It wasn't until I saw it again recently that I realized what he was doing.

For me, I seriously doubt all the sexual humor will have a lasting effect on the kids.

Exactly!! Even the first Ace. When Ace returns the dog to that busty woman I thought she was tickling him when I was 10 but now I know that he was getting Oral.

 

[Whirlysplat]

seriously i never understood that about you Americans, show all the blood gore and violence and no one bats an eye, yet think of the idea of sex and the whole country goes into melt down.

The reminds me of Eurotrip. "Our nation was founded by prudes who couldn't take the hot, steamy Eurosex". Praraphrased due to poor memory.

 

[D.Rex]

I used the middle finger when I was 5, lol.

I saw some older kid using it and I followed suit.

And that was the 90s! Now a' days, yeah- they'd probably know what the terms *********ion and sex mean. Not at 5, but at least 8-10.

If you don't pick something up from movies- you pick it up on the school bus.

Exactly people I mean go sit down at a fourth or fifth grade lunch table one of these days and listen to a conversation. *********ion and some sexual jokes aren't going to kill some young kid. They know more about that stuff than you think. As an older brother to a 10 year old I know he already knows about some of that stuff. Most of the things he learns come from the older kids and adults in his life (and as much as I try not to I'm guilty, sometimes I swear in front of him and sometimes he plays my M rated games and has seen some of my R rated movies even though I tell him not to). Trust me the stuff in Transformers is most likely not gonna be anything new to a typical 9, 10, or 11 year old. Also the movie is PG-13. If your a concerned parent and you don't think your child can handle it don't take em. Thats why it's PG13. More than a fair warning. Nobody is hiding that fact.

 

[terry78]

I'm sure that every teen boy that went to see this with his family sunk down in his seat when the *********ion jokes came up. His mom is probably thinking the same thing.

 

[tattoojack8689]

As a parent you should have watch the movie first since it is PG-13 if your offspring was under that age. If you dont know what PG-13 means then your a dumbass. Its not up to the film makers to make sure THERE FILM is suitable for your accidents, mistakes, and offspring. They shouldn't have even been allowed in there with or without you cause most of the are brats from hell at that age that have zero theater manners. Asking questions, being loud, not sitting the **** down, kicking seats. One of those little bastards kept kicking my seat and I told the worthless parent off.

 

[Dugath]

Why is this in this movie? Not to sound like a concerned parent or something, but soooooo much of this movie is marketed to children. It doesn't fit at all. Besides the writing it's another thing that keeps this from series like Pirates, Spider-Man, and Harry Potter. Instead of an epic family movie, it feels like it's made for brain dead teens.

First PG-13 as has been said is not for Children as you say. Also you claim this movie was Marketed towards Children, I can not say for sure if this is indeed the case because really, I have not seen much in the way of advertising for Transformers and the little I did was no way marketed towards Children, in fact it seemed more geared towards young adults. Take the first "teaser" how many Children are interested in some boring rough footage of the mars rover thing?

I was actually surprised though at how young the children where that some people brought and I think it was more of the case of "I loved Transformers when I was a Kid, so I will take mine to this" Unfortunatly alot of though younger Kinds did not "get" this movie because as I said this movie is in no way targeted at children, one kid even asked his mom what was *********ion. (lol at the mom)

I freaking loved this movie, I loved everything about it. I have read peoples complaints and still went as saw it and for every complaint, or "why did this happen" there was an explanation for in the movie (some people just do not pay attention..ie.. someone was complaining how did Spike know putting the Cube into Megs would kill him..Prime only told him twice to do it to him if he couldn't beat Megs). I have to say this is the best movie for me in a very very long time. brought a tear to my eye

By the way would you take a Child to any of these pg-13 movies? Probably not.. but again.. Pg-13 is not for Children.

The Ring (1 and 2)
The Grudge
Anaconda
1408

 

[Spade]

I just chalk it up to parents who want to bring kids to films they may not be prepared for. While this movie is awesome, it definitely has some scenes that will illicit all the wrong questions from curious children. You have to know what's right and wrong for a child as their guardian. There was a guy during my screening of 300 who brought his little kid to see it with him- apparently, the rating system is something some parents are confused over.

 

[Theweepeople]

They shouldn't have even been allowed in there with or without you cause most of the are brats from hell at that age that have zero theater manners. Asking questions, being loud, not sitting the **** down, kicking seats. One of those little bastards kept kicking my seat and I told the worthless parent off.

I hate it when Parents bring kids that are under the age of 8 to these types of films. These kids ruined my experiences of seeing Batman Begins, Attack of the Clones, and Spider-Man 2 in the theaters. Fortunately, I only heard one annoying kid talking on and off throughout Transformers. I wasn't too close to the kid so the annoyance was tolerable. What really irritates me about these experiences is the parents usually do nothing to discipline their kids.

 

[terry78]

To be honest, Transformers has always been thought of as a brand for kids. Not adults. It's about 20 years old, and has been reimagined multiple times for new generations, so I could understand how a parent would bring his 5 year old to this. These kids are watching all the new TF cartoons as well, so that has something to do with it.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

To be honest, Transformers has always been thought of as a brand for kids. Not adults. It's about 20 years old, and has been reimagined multiple times for new generations, so I could understand how a parent would bring his 5 year old to this. These kids are watching all the new TF cartoons as well, so that has something to do with it.

Precisely; the film itself may not have been intended solely for kids, but the marketing campaign was obviously tailored for that demographic. I mean, c'mon...we're dealing with a film based on a line of action figures, and the vast majority of customers for that are young kids (yes, I know collectors and toy geeks buy them too, but the toys are still mostly for kids). As I've said before, the responsibility should be equally divided between the filmmakers and the parents whose children wish to see the film. Parents need to "face the music", as it were, and stop looking the other way where their children are concerned. Discipline and guidance are not bad things, people; quit letting the kids control everything! But that's a whole 'nother story...

 

[dimmutaker]

Precisely; the film itself may not have been intended solely for kids, but the marketing campaign was obviously tailored for that demographic. I mean, c'mon...we're dealing with a film based on a line of action figures, and the vast majority of customers for that are young kids (yes, I know collectors and toy geeks buy them too, but the toys are still mostly for kids). As I've said before, the responsibility should be equally divided between the filmmakers and the parents whose children wish to see the film. Parents need to "face the music", as it were, and stop looking the other way where their children are concerned. Discipline and guidance are not bad things, people; quit letting the kids control everything! But that's a whole 'nother story...

I dont agree with that. First, this isn't some cartoons, or toy lines that they are promoting, is a movie, mind you PG-13 movie. So the choice is up to the parents to allowe their children to see this film. Is up to the parents to watch and to see what their kids are up to. The filmmakers dont' need to watch over the people that goes and watch this movie. I mean, people that are complaining now is the same people that push the goverment and other entities to put labels in cds and in movies. IMO the responsibility should with their parents 100%

 

[jakem]

Hey, I'm new here. After watching the movie I had some mixed feelings, so I read the entire thread (really) and now I've changed my mind to a more neutral stance (than how I felt before)...so here's my views:

1) The movie was great - good action, and despite the corny lines/jokes, they were so bad that it was actually hilarious. Best movie I've seen in a WHILE. Entertaining all the way through.

2) I think the profanity was a bit excessive. "s--t" could have been "shoot", and we don't need Jazz to be a gangster ("lil b---hes") ... but thats just me. I just feel it was unnecessary, and borderline even for PG-13. (then again Bad News Bears was far far worse)

3) The *********ion scene was kinda left field ... I don't think that was "brief sexual humor" by MPAA's standards...then again the MPAA doesn't really have any standards. At any rate, had they used a euphemism instead and not dragged it out so long, it would have been fine.

4) As for the discussion of whether this is for kids - you know damn well the movie was for kids too. Please stop pulling out the rating card ... you know that there are many pg-13 movies that are suitable for kids ...and some are borderline R ... the only way to differentiate is based on who its marketed towards, descriptors for its rating, and (if you're really a freak) online parent reviews.

While the movie does seem to be appealing to an older crowd, you know it wouldn't do well at the box office if no child under 13 went to see it. And with all the marketing tie ins, you too are living in your own little bubble if you think it's for solely for teens and those who watched it as a kid. The film's success is relying (to a great extent) on the younger 8-12 demographic.

5) I do agree with some of your points - for example, Americans stereotypically condemning sex while not thinking twice about violence. I think that is kind of ignorant, then again this movie had no gore or many on screen deaths ... it was mainly "action" which is what little kids dig.
Despite that, lets be honest...even if *********ion is something natural that should be discussed, you have to admit it'd be kinda awkward sitting next to your kid during that 30 second scene. But thats just me, and thats up for debate.

Conclusion: This movie is not just for teens/adults no matter how much you wanna tell yourself otherwise (the MPAA rating system was not made by God himself) .... and regardless of that, the profanity could of been toned down and the sexual innuendo was funny/vague enough where the *********ion scene didn't have to be there.

Comments, rebuttles (without personal attacks) would be appreciated. By the way, I'm an American 18 yr old college student and I have no kids...and even I was like "come on, this is Transformers..."

 

[dimmutaker]

3) The *********ion scene was kinda left field ... I don't think that was "brief sexual humor" by MPAA's standards...then again the MPAA doesn't really have any standards. At any rate, had they used a euphemism instead and not dragged it out so long, it would have been fine.

4) As for the discussion of whether this is for kids - you know damn well the movie was for kids too. Please stop pulling out the rating card ... you know that there are many pg-13 movies that are suitable for kids ...and some are borderline R ... the only way to differentiate is based on who its marketed towards, descriptors for its rating, and (if you're really a freak) online parent reviews.

While the movie does seem to be appealing to an older crowd, you know it wouldn't do well at the box office if no child under 13 went to see it. And with all the marketing tie ins, you too are living in your own little bubble if you think it's for solely for teens and those who watched it as a kid. The film's success is relying (to a great extent) on the younger 8-12 demographic.

And i agree. BUT if my son tells me that he's going to a PG-13 movie, and afterwards comes home asking questions or whatever, is my fault for letting him go without at least checking out the movie first. Is not the filmmakers job. that's my point.

 

[jakem]

And i agree. BUT if my son tells me that he's going to a PG-13 movie, and afterwards comes home asking questions or whatever, is my fault for letting him go without at least checking out the movie first. Is not the filmmakers job. that's my point.

I agree with you there .... I guess my point is no one expected that scene ... or the frequent language. So maybe this is simply an example of why it's important to prescreen movies and do research before hand.

Needless to say, my point is "I wish they toned it down so parents don't feel guilty bringing their kids" rather than "It's the director's fault parents brought their kids."

I mean while it wasn't over the top, and I'd have no problem bringing my 10 year old cousin , it was a little more edgy than it had to be. For example, the line "His pheromonees tell me he wants to make love..." was funny but not awkward ... on the other hand, a 30 second *********ion discussion was probably more awkward for some than funny.

I mean is it debatable? Yes.
Do they have the right to include it? Yes.
Is it rated pg 13? Yes.
Should it have been that blatant / drawn out ...? I personally say no.

 

[Dugath]

4) As for the discussion of whether this is for kids - you know damn well the movie was for kids too. Please stop pulling out the rating card ... you know that there are many pg-13 movies that are suitable for kids ...and some are borderline R ... the only way to differentiate is based on who its marketed towards, descriptors for its rating, and (if you're really a freak) online parent reviewsSorry I have to call bull on this. If a movie was marketed towards Children it would have got a rating for Children. Was "A bugs life" Pg-13? did it have bad language and sexual content and violence? no because it was Marketed towards Children.

Transformers was made for a general audience, and mostly for the teens and young adults and even older adults. Sure Children can come to it, thats why they went for a PG-13 rating instead of going ultra violent and such and going for a R rating. PG-13 is the middle ground where dumb parents can take thier child to see the movie and then complain oh wait ..how dare they do this in the movie..if they do not like it then they should blame themselves for not taking their Kid to see Toy Story instead.

Just because a movie is rated pg-13 does not mean its good for Children. Dumb people should not have kids.

 

[jakem]

Luckily I don't have kids but I still stand by my statement that the scene was unnecessary for Transformers, as well as the immature lines like "whats crackin *****es"....

 

[nosebleed.]

<~~has kids, doesn't feel this movie had excessive sexual humor or language.

 

[cyrus02pso]

I'm glad it's in there. There is nothing wrong with sexual humor in a family movie. And it's quite logic (probably the only logical thing in the movie).

Just weird that one reacts to that harmless humor, but one is not bothered by the violence. In Spider-Man the Green Goblin got penetrated through the gut. Thats family movie to some, but having a little humor about sex is not?

Where is the logic in that?

i think in a super hero movie the violence is expected...

i think in a movie about giant robot war machines violence is expected...

but there is a difference in a suggestive joke and a conversation about *********ion for 5 mins. with some people thats fine and with some its not... i personally think its unnecessary. the movie is hilarious with out the sex jokes and its not really that kind of movie.

its not a matter of being bothered by sex over violence, its a matter of what is expected. like if im going to see a viewaskew movie i would expect the sex humor, and in transformers i am going to expect alot of explosions... but not the other way around.

 

[nosebleed.]

i think in a super hero movie the violence is expected...

i think in a movie about giant robot war machines violence is expected...

but there is a difference in a suggestive joke and a conversation about *********ion for 5 mins. with some people thats fine and with some its not... i personally think its unnecessary. the movie is hilarious with out the sex jokes and its not really that kind of movie.

its not a matter of being bothered by sex over violence, its a matter of what is expected. like if im going to see a viewaskew movie i would expect the sex humor, and in transformers i am going to expect alot of explosions... but not the other way around.

THIS movie is about a boy and his car. The boy and his car are trying to impress a hot girl at school. Of course there's going to be some innuendo in there.

 

[dimmutaker]

i think in a super hero movie the violence is expected...

i think in a movie about giant robot war machines violence is expected...

but there is a difference in a suggestive joke and a conversation about *********ion for 5 mins. with some people thats fine and with some its not... i personally think its unnecessary. the movie is hilarious with out the sex jokes and its not really that kind of movie.

its not a matter of being bothered by sex over violence, its a matter of what is expected. like if im going to see a viewaskew movie i would expect the sex humor, and in transformers i am going to expect alot of explosions... but not the other way around.

5 minutes????? I remember the scene was like 30 seconds, maybe less. *********ion, big deal. Is not like they're having sex or something.