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Bush (merge x4)

Should George W. Bush be impeached?

  • Yes

  • No

  • See how it plays out in the courts first

  • I don't know


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So am I reading correct that you want to waste even more money in impeaching a president that has under a year left, and then let Dick Cheney take over to totally f^%k things up? Sounds like a democrat's idea to me.

I personally see no point in impeaching a man who has such a short amount of time in office left. It will never happen anyway because of partisan interference. This president is a person who has no regard for anything or anyone other than himself. If I may be so bold though, impeaching a president with just cause is an AMERICAN idea, not just a democratic one.

How quickly we all forget that the president works for the American people...
 
This is SO how you win the world's trust again, but then again, we are the US "****ing"A we can do what we's want, right? World's biggest superpower.

I'm kinda surprised no one's talking about this.

http://www.humanrights-geneva.info/US-quits-Human-Rights-Council,3184

US quits Human Rights Council?
HRT

6 June 08 - There was widespread consternation on Friday at the Palais des Nations in Geneva when the US mission gave up his observer status - a step backwards for human rights around the world, says Human Rights Watch.

Carole Vann/Juan Gasparini/Human Rights Tribune - The news that the US has completely withdrawn from the Human Rights Council spread like wildfire Friday afternoon (June 6) through the corridors of the Palais des Nations in Geneva. There was general consternation amongst diplomats and NGOS. Reached by phone, the American mission in Geneva neither confirmed nor denied the report. Although unofficial, the news comes at a time of long opposition by the Bush administration to the reforms which created the Human Rights Council in June 2006. Washington announced from the beginning that the US would not be an active member but its observer status would mean that it could intervene during the sessions. To date even this has rarely happened.

“We don’t understand the reasons nor the timing of the decision”, said Sebastien Gillioz of Human Rights Watch. “There have even been some positive signs during this Council. For example Belarus was not re-elected as a member in 2007 nor Sri Lanka this year”.

The stupefaction was made greater by the fact the US actively took part in the universal Periodic Review (UPR) process where 32 countries were scrutinized by their peers in April and May. In particular a series of recommendations were made regarding Romania, Japan, Guatemala, Peru, Tunisia, Ukraine, Indonesia and others.

Diplomats are equally concerned. If the current president of the Council, Doru Costea, declined to comment, his predecessor, Luis Alfonso De Alba said that he didnt see any reason to justify such a decision. Several observers mentioned Washington’s growing discontentment with the influence of the Islamic and African countries in the Council.

“It is an aberration”, said Peter Splinter of Amnesty International. “It seems that the government has lost its mind. How could it believe it is going to improve human rights by running away? It is like those who say, ‘I don’t like the way this town is governed so I’m not going to vote’”.

For Human Rights Watch (HRW), the US has shown very little commitment to human rights in general. The working group against arbitrary detention gave up going to Guantanamo last month because Washington would not allow its members to have face to face meetings with detainees. For its part, the Rapporteur against racism, Doudou Diene, has fought for years to be able to pay a visit and only recently got permission.

But Eric Sottas, director of the International Organisation against Torture sees it as a a political gesture. “The US has always clearly shown its opposition to the Council. This is a slightly more public way of putting pressure on it in order to raise the stakes. What is more the Bush dynasty is coming to the end of its mandate,” he said. “It reminds me of the time when the Nixon administration, which backed Pinochet in Chile, chastized the UN for criticising the Chilean dictator. But when Carter was elected in 1977, the American government took the floor at the Human Rights Commission to ask forgiveness. After a presidency like that of Bush, you can expect some important changes in US policy on human right.”

HRW is still worried about the withdrawal. “The message is worrying”, says Sebastien Gillioz. “ Ever since September 11, 2001, the US has constantly interpreted international standards in an “ a la carte” manner that has eroded human rights. Its behaviour has served as an example to a stream of states, including Pakistan, Egypt and other, who are not embarrassed to review human rights standards on homosexuality, abortion, capital punishment. It is a step backwards.”
 
Hmm, I guess our government decided to end its hypocrisies, at least in terms of standing against human rights violations while at the same time abusing such rights and condoning various governments that do the same *cough, china :o
 
Isn't there a thread on this already in the Politics forum? I'm not sure, but I think there is.
 
We can still play by the rules and not go to the meetings.
 
I'm a tad confused when it comes to certain government things, could someone explain this to me in layman's terms?
 
I'm a tad confused when it comes to certain government things, could someone explain this to me in layman's terms?

the Human Rights Council (HRC) is under the United Nations System and George Bush withdrew the US from it. this is a sign that torture has been committed during the Bush administration and Bush doesn't want the HRC to find out about it.
 
I already made this thread, in the politics forum, WHERE IT BELONGS.
 
I already made this thread, in the politics forum, WHERE IT BELONGS.

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What's the point of being on a Human Rights Council that has China and Cuba as members? :huh:
 

Well excuuuus me, princess. What the f**k is the point of even HAVING a politics forum if people are just going to post it in community? Hell, why not just get rid of all the other forums, and post EVERYTHING in community, in that case?
 
Well excuuuus me, princess. What the f**k is the point of even HAVING a politics forum if people are just going to post it in community? Hell, why not just get rid of all the other forums, and post EVERYTHING in community, in that case?

Have you ever thought for even a second that maybe, just maybe, people will be more inclined to visit said forum if they see the more interesting topics posted here first? That some people might want to discuss these things with a higher percentage of people with an interest with these topics?

Besides - if the thread is that useless in this forum, then a mod will do what is necessary.
 
I already made this thread, in the politics forum, WHERE IT BELONGS.

First of all cupcake, congratulations for you. I usually post on the politics forum...this is probably the first time I've posted on the community in a LONG while. BUT this does deserve more attention than the political forum.

This is general news, not politics.

If they move it, they move it, but it's GENERAL NEWS.
 
the Human Rights Council (HRC) is under the United Nations System and George Bush withdrew the US from it. this is a sign that torture has been committed during the Bush administration and Bush doesn't want the HRC to find out about it.

Agreed, and it's COMPLETELY un-american! :(
 
Have you ever thought for even a second that maybe, just maybe, people will be more inclined to visit said forum if they see the more interesting topics posted here first? That some people might want to discuss these things with a higher percentage of people with an interest with these topics?

Besides - if the thread is that useless in this forum, then a mod will do what is necessary.

Have you ever thought for even a second that maybe, just maybe, people will be omre inclined to visit said forum if they see that it's the only place where the political threads will be? That some people might want to discuss these things with a higher percentage of people with an interest in these topics, and the only way to get people to go to the politics forum is to make sure political threads are exclusive to it?
 
This is general news, not politics.

If they move it, they move it, but it's GENERAL NEWS.

The UN is a political body. This is news about the US government (another political body) pulling out of a UN (political body, again) task force (smaller political body). So no, it's not general news, it's political news.
 
Have you ever thought for even a second that maybe, just maybe, people will be omre inclined to visit said forum if they see that it's the only place where the political threads will be? That some people might want to discuss these things with a higher percentage of people with an interest in these topics, and the only way to get people to go to the politics forum is to make sure political threads are exclusive to it?

Clearly you didn't understand my post.
 
First of all cupcake, congratulations for you. I usually post on the politics forum...this is probably the first time I've posted on the community in a LONG while. BUT this does deserve more attention than the political forum.

This is general news, not politics.

If they move it, they move it, but it's GENERAL NEWS.

Agreed :up:
 
I'm sick to death of Bush. He dicked me over with this stimulus check ****. I'm sick of Bush, I'm ready for him to get out of office. :cmad:
 
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