Candyman remake

Helen Lyle (Virginia Madsen) was the main antagonist in Jordan Peele’s script and it looks like she was the main antagonist in DaCosta’s film as well but the movie underwent substantial changes in post due to poor test screening results.
 
Well that took a turn I was not expecting.

And his skin...

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My trypophobia went into overdrive, and I have never been so happy to see someone put on a jacket.

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I loved what they did with the audio mix.
 
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This. This is good. The Marvels is going to amazing.
 
I NEVER walk out of movies. I walked out of this one. They took a good concept and made pretentious, divisive trash out of it. I don't think I've ever been that annoyed coming out of a movie(or 1/3 of one anyway).
 
Talk about completely missing the marketing.
 
Finally saw this. I can’t believe it has taken me so long.

Truly one of the best horror films I’ve seen. It is especially terrifying to think that some of the real life injustice referenced in the film and in the credits is far worse than what what written for the film.
This was haunting. Great mood building.

I really don’t understand how someone can call this “pretentious divisive trash.” Or I guess I do see how some people could say that, but I don’t think that is a reflection on the movie itself but instead reflects more on the viewer’s perception.
 
Has Jeff Sneider ever made any attempt to atone for his BS about it being an “open secret” that this movie was garbage?
 
This movie was a mess. It had some really great and creative ideas. The themes of how white people use Black people as told through gentrification. Taking the kernel of the original story and putting its own spin on it: the idea of Candyman as this manifestation of the crimes against Black people in history that becomes a coping mechanism and this need for it; the idea of different Candymen representing those different periods and the protagonist's transformation as the next Candyman is all very interesting. The visual style of this movie was terrific. From the shot compositions and scene direction that creates genuinely unnerving moments to the creative use of shadow puppets for exposition.

The execution of the story just doesn't really work in the end. I understood the ideas, just the presentation of them was really lacking. Somehow even when I knew Yahya was the baby in the first movie, it was still confusing. The last 20 minutes became befuddling and unearned. Not to mention some really on the nose dialogue where in a better crafted film isn't needed. The plot of rich white people getting murdered by a Black boogeyman after co-opting their culture and a Black man paying the consequences tells me more about gentrification and its racist implications than what the characters were trying to tell me about it. If this was a better constructed movie, you can trust the audience to come to that conclusion themselves like Peele did with Get Out. But sometimes this felt like a parody of a Jordan Peele movie.
 
Do I need to watch the original Candyman to understand this one? Or can I go in totally fresh?
 
You can go in fresh. It pretty much recaps the first film and the protagonist is discovering these things as new audience members would.

But the first movie is really, really great, so you should check it out when you have a chance.
 
Agree, the original Candyman is one of the best horror movies of all time and has a ton of legitimately scary moments. The requel is an underrated gem, but feels more like a psychological thriller in the way of Peele.
 
I just finished watching it. It's not a bad movie but it feels like a lesser retread of the original while trying to put its own spin on the story with the expansion of a new "Candyman" every generation.

The concept is there but the execution didn't quite hit the mark. Some of the scenes were too on the nose and lacked subtley or nuance. It almost felt like it was setting up something else but then it just sort of ends.
 
The original will forever be one of my all time favs. Liked the new one but like you guys are saying, it was too on the nose. Hollywood has to hammer every nail into your skull with maximum force to the point where you just need a break lol.
 
I liked this film a lot but I felt that you needed a little more with certain characters (namely Teyonah Parris and Colman Domingo). What we got of them was great but I felt like each of them needed to be explored a bit more. Especially since
she’s the survivor at the end and he’s the one who ends up helping the Candyman. I would have liked to see Teyonah doing some more sleuthing as her hubby loses his mind, and I would have liked to have seen a bit more of what made Colman who he was.

The movie also commits the cardinal sin of just having characters brush off something that in the real world, people would have severe reactions to. In this case, I’m talking about that gruesome bee sting on Yahya’s hand that almost immediately begins to make his arm look gangrenous. Why isn’t everyone telling this guy to get his ass to a hospital?

I was also a little iffy on Yahya’s performance. He wasn’t bad but something about it just seemed off to me. He’s a great actor but I’m not sure I bought him as this visionary artist-type.

Still, I really liked the movie and thought it was a good expansion of the Candyman mythos while also exploring the realities of racist police brutality, even if a lot of it was on the nose. I will definitely watch the next one, which hopefully will feature a bigger role for Teyonah.
 
One thing that was lost on me was the backstory of the girlfriend's father killing himself. I think I get its thematic significance, but it didn't really add up in the end. It seemed a little disconnected.

I'd like to read Peele's original script. Seemed like it go re-written by DeCosta.
 
One thing that was lost on me was the backstory of the girlfriend's father killing himself. I think I get its thematic significance, but it didn't really add up in the end. It seemed a little disconnected.

I'd like to read Peele's original script. Seemed like it go re-written by DeCosta.

Yeah that was really impactful in the flashback and it seemed like it was going to mean more for the main story but it didn’t. Maybe it was part of a plot thread that was ultimately abandoned but they just left it in to give her a bit more backstory.
 

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