Captain America Pushed Back

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Sadly, Cap wont be on screen anytime soon.

Hopefully they will use this time to plan a trilogy that is an effective use of all the mythos involved with Captain America.

The first movie needs to involve the origin and the War. WWII should not be a 15 minute sequence in the film, but rather can encompass the whole thing, ending with him being frozen in ice.

Arad says he wants to focus on the "man out of time" aspect, but two movies are enough to do that in.

Thoughts?
 
I would love to see a Captain America movie. I heard it got pushed back becaused they don't have the funding for it right now. Whatever deal they struck to get funding didn't cover this movie.
 
I'll rather have the project pushed back than rushed and messed up. Captain America has a great potential, but it is probably the superhero movie project with the greatest risk to fail as well. Arad wanting to focus on the "man out of time" is making a huge mistake IMO.
 
Nebins said:
I would love to see a Captain America movie. I heard it got pushed back becaused they don't have the funding for it right now. Whatever deal they struck to get funding didn't cover this movie.

Arad mentioned one of the reasons to the Captain America push back, was do to the fact that he couldn't get the director he wanted for the film until 2009.
 
I was dissappointed when i heard this news, i was really looking forward to seeing cap on screen. I think in this age he's a really interesting character and not as corny as people might perceive him to be.
 
Batman said:
Arad mentioned one of the reasons to the Captain America push back, was do to the fact that he couldn't get the director he wanted for the film until 2009.

Not such a good reason. Maybe they should take the time to prepare the project seriously. The last Marvel movies (Punisher, Fanatstic Four) weren't very good...
 
Everyman said:
Not such a good reason. Maybe they should take the time to prepare the project seriously. The last Marvel movies (Punisher, Fanatstic Four) weren't very good...

Yes it is a good reason. Marvel wants Captain America done right. And from the sounds of it so far, Iron Man, Nick Fury, or the Incredible Hulk will come out in 2008, so that should tide you over a little bit.

The Punisher and Fantastic Four were good. The only one that sucked was Elektra which was 20th Century Fox's fault.
 
The Punisher was a clumsy and often ridiculous b movie, FF was a pure joke, with a pseudo-Doom... The idea of having Cap a man out of time on the first movie is also a mistake, and a specific director won't make it any more right.
 
hippie_hunter said:
The Punisher and Fantastic Four were good. The only one that sucked was Elektra which was 20th Century Fox's fault.

This is just my opinion, but I hated Fantastic Four. At first I thought that I was just disappointed in it, but I seriously can't even watch that movie anymore. Punisher a lot more people probably hate, but I actually like it.
 
Everyman said:
The Punisher was a clumsy and often ridiculous b movie, FF was a pure joke, with a pseudo-Doom... The idea of having Cap a man out of time on the first movie is also a mistake, and a specific director won't make it any more right.

The Punisher rocked and the only part of Fantastic Four that completely sucked was screwing up Dr. Doom.

As for Captain America, it is just a concept, concepts change. If they do go with the man out of time idea, it is a good one. A man of the Great Depression/World War II in today's world. Isn't that the point of the character.
 
Everyman said:
Not such a good reason. Maybe they should take the time to prepare the project seriously. The last Marvel movies (Punisher, Fanatstic Four) weren't very good...

It is a good reason only because it's obviously someone Arad thinks can handle the project greatly, along with David Self who seems to understand the character well enough when talking about writing the script this morning. Not to mention how they'll have PLENTY of time to discuss all the things that'll be involved for the film, such as, casting, villains, etc.
 
hippie_hunter said:
The Punisher rocked and the only part of Fantastic Four that completely sucked was screwing up Dr. Doom.

As for Captain America, it is just a concept, concepts change. If they do go with the man out of time idea, it is a good one. A man of the Great Depression/World War II in today's world. Isn't that the point of the character.

Well, FF screwed up the MAIN badguy of the franchise, and actually the main badguy of the Marvel universe, I think it's pretty terrible and it sends the movie in the void of bad adaptations for that only.

Cap as a character needs to be perceived as a man of his time before he is seen as a man out of time. And you have first logically to build a peudo-history, of a very precise time period, which is WWII and make us believe that there were superheroes and supervillains back then. You have first to establish Captain America of the hero of the American people during that time period before you throw him in modern time. You cannot jsut build all this in a few minutes, you need a whole movie for that. If you don't, you just have a guy in today's world wearing a silly costume. You might as well make of him the American version of Austin Powers.

Because Marvel thinks that the man out of time idea is the way to go doesn't mean they are right. They thought making Dr Doom an Eurotrash tycoon was a good idea, after all...
 
Batman said:
It is a good reason only because it's obviously someone Arad thinks can handle the project greatly, along with David Self who seems to understand the character well enough when talking about writing the script this morning. Not to mention how they'll have PLENTY of time to discuss all the things that'll be involved for the film, such as, casting, villains, etc.

It would be a good reason if the movie was going on the right track. If they go with this man out of time diea, they are taking the wrong direction. A director can change a lot from a script, granted, and finding the right one is really important. But I am very skeptical at the approach they are taking with the character, and recent Marvel movies are making me quite nervous.
 
Everyman said:
Because Marvel thinks that the man out of time idea is the way to go doesn't mean they are right. They thought making Dr Doom an Eurotrash tycoon was a good idea, after all...

That was the fault of 20th Century Fox not Marvel :o
 
Everyman said:
It would be a good reason if the movie was going on the right track. If they go with this man out of time diea, they are taking the wrong direction. A director can change a lot from a script, granted, and finding the right one is really important. But I am very skeptical at the approach they are taking with the character, and recent Marvel movies are making me quite nervous.

Apparently Self claims Captain America to be a "Norman Rockwell character," as said when talking about the script here. I don't have my doubts just yet, I honestly think it'll be done right with the correct aspect of who Captain America really is or who he once was. After all, they may be different, but Self wrote a great script for Road to Perdition, so why not do the same with this one? He seems sure enough to know alot about his share of the character, all that's needed now is a director who can do the same.
 
Batman said:
Apparently Self claims Captain America to be a "Norman Rockwell character," as said when talking about the script here. I don't have my doubts just yet, I honestly think it'll be done right with the correct aspect of who Captain America really is or who he once was. After all, they may be different, but Self wrote a great script for Road to Perdition, so why not do the same with this one? He seems sure enough to know alot about his share of the character, all that's needed now is a director who can do the same.

Road to perdition was quality stuff, if he can reproduce this in a Cap movie AND make it a period piece (it sort of goes together I think) it would be great. But I hope what we heard about a man out of time will not happen. Not before the second, or even third, movie (a Cap America tetralogy, that would be great).
 
Everyman said:
Road to perdition was quality stuff, if he can reproduce this in a Cap movie AND make it a period piece (it sort of goes together I think) it would be great. But I hope what we heard about a man out of time will not happen. Not before the second, or even third, movie (a Cap America tetralogy, that would be great).

Agreed, exactly. I'm still willing to give the man out of time idea a chance. As I said before, I believe it could work well if done right. But who knows, the film is far from beginning, things could change.
 
Everyman said:
Well, they sure let 20th Century Fox do it...

Once Marvel sells the rights to a character, they have little if any say. All Marvel does is to make sure that the character isn't too bastardized like Catwoman or Steel were.

The Fantastic Four were still the publically known, family-esque team that they are in the comics. Mr. Fantastic is still a genius and can stretch. Invisible Woman still turned invisible and developed force fields. The Human-Torch could still "Flame-On" and was still a pain in the neck. The Thing was still a rocky dude with superior strength.

Dr. Doom, despite not being what everyone wanted, wasn't bastardized also. He was heavily influenced by the Ultimate version from Ultimate Fantastic Four instead of the 616 version that everyone knows and loves. Dr. Doom was still an ego maniacal man of science and the rival of Reed Richards. He is still Latverian.

Was it the right move no, but Fantastic Four was still somewhat faithful to the comics.
 
I too am looking forward to the "Captain America" movie,if indeed it really is coming out in 2009.
 
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Everyman said:
The Punisher was a clumsy and often ridiculous b movie, FF was a pure joke, with a pseudo-Doom... The idea of having Cap a man out of time on the first movie is also a mistake, and a specific director won't make it any more right.


I totally agree!!
 

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