Chapter 24 - "Four Months Later" - Discussion Thread 9/24/07

[He-Man]

LOL @ The paper business is dog eat dog

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Was I the only one that was a bit underwhelmed with this premier? I mean, Peter shocking that dude at the end was kinda cool, but the rest of the episode felt like the middle of last season where it just kinda dragged on and on.

I thought the episode was great, it was laying the ground work for the season, reintroducing the characters, telling you where they are now, what they're doing and with such a large cast that takes time. Setting up the big bad(s). Were you expecting some sort of big action scene? That's not the way Heroes works, although I do hope the action is much better this year.

How did the Bennett's become the least interesting characters with Parkman becoming the most interesting? Quite a reversal.

Well, the Bennett's are trying to keep a low profile right now, I'm sure that storyline will pick up, especially with what we've heard about Kristin Bell's charcter. Anyone think Claire's new friend might work for the company?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Well hopefully they have atleast Nathan get back with his wife and family, since there are still some interesting stories there. Heidi can now walk and he does have two kids who may have gotten the power gene. Plus Heidi (that we know of) doesnt know anything about what has been going on.

Starting out with 4 charecters having family and then only going down to 1 having a family is a bit much.

Nathan has shut out his family
Matt is divorced from his pregnant wife (im guessing so their kid can be safe)
Nikki doesnt have DL as a husband/boyfriend anymore, and only has Micah left.

But the Bennett family is still all intact (thankgod)

And cant wait to see the Haitian again, I read somewhere he is suppose to show up sometime.

 

[Mysterio]

Peter manifests the ability regardless of how WELL he knows the person or not. If he doesn't know them at all, then he can't use the power, otherwise, he would have all the powers in the world from all the people he's never met. It could not have come from elsewhere, otherwise, Peter could always pull powers from elsewhere and he wouldn't have to run into/meet people to use their powers.

that's not true. that isn't the way his ability works. he can't just absorb someone's ability who is on the other side of the world; he absorbs them by being in close proximity to the other person. he doesn't have to know them to absorb or use the ability. abilities also manifest due to the person's mental state. the writers and kring have repeatedly said this.

The power belongs to one of the three guys standing in the crate.

But your other corrections are on point.

it may have come from one of the three guys (which i doubt), but your reasoning for why is flawed.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

i dont get what happened with Nathan at all.

He should've blown up with Peter or at least have been badly burned from holding him.

And didnt he win the election last season?

 

[GNR]

i dont get what happened with Nathan at all.

He should've blown up with Peter or at least have been badly burned from holding him.

And didnt he win the election last season?

Nathan has been known to fly at very high speeds and there was more than enough time for him to fly off.

 

[Mysterio]

i dont get what happened with Nathan at all.

He should've blown up with Peter or at least have been badly burned from holding him.

And didnt he win the election last season?

Flew Peter up, dropped him over the water, and sped away. Could be why Peter has shown up in a shipping container. Perhaps after he regenerated he was rescued at sea?

 

[NateGray]

Peter manifests the ability regardless of how WELL he knows the person or not. If he doesn't know them at all, then he can't use the power, otherwise, he would have all the powers in the world from all the people he's never met. It could not have come from elsewhere, otherwise, Peter could always pull powers from elsewhere and he wouldn't have to run into/meet people to use their powers.

The power belongs to one of the three guys standing in the crate.

But your other corrections are on point.

To many flaws in this theory.
Peter has shown to use powers he did not even know he had absorbed.
Once he is in proximity of a person with powers he just absorbs them instantly.
Some he has to concentrate to access others function without him like regeneration but he always from point of contact will have access to them as its his body that absorbs them and even mind wiped his body knows how to use them.
That blast looked just like a blast from Ted so unless they show the powers of a person in the crate to be something like what he did that is what I think it is.
It could easily be one of the persons in the crate as like I mention above once he is in proximity he has the powers and instinct just takes over from there I just do not think that is the case here is all.

 

[Midnhtsun]

This season were going to see a division between the Bennett family. The dinner table scene you could tell that the mother was harboring resentment for the new secluded lifestyle. Most likely this will be aimed at Claire and The father probably more so at Claire since she is adopted.

As for Peter im guessing he wasn't rescued. Im sure the company knew about him since it was known he was a key element in destroying NY. Im sure they recovered him and placed him in the container with his memmory cleared. Remember someone hired those guys to open that specific container.

 

[Midnhtsun]

To many flows in this theory.
Peter has shown to use powers he did not even know he had absorbed.
Once he is in proximity of a person with powers he just absorbs them instantly.
Some he has to concentrate to access others function without him like regeneration but he always from point of contact will have access to them as its his body that absorbs them and even mind wiped his body knows how to use them.
That blast looked just like a blast from Ted so unless they show the powers of a person in the crate to be something like what he did that is what I think it is.
It could easily be one of the persons in the crate as like I mention above once he is in proximity he has the powers and instinct just takes over from there I just do not think that is the case here is all.

I agree there are just too many possibilities for Peter to get those powers im doubtful its any of those three guys. Im guess they are just pawns

 

[kane9321]

Its Wanda & Pietro...latin style

 

[Mysterio]

As for Peter im guessing he wasn't rescued. Im sure the company knew about him since it was known he was a key element in destroying NY. Im sure they recovered him and placed him in the container with his memmory cleared.

that isn't rescuing him?

 

[Midnhtsun]

that isn't rescuing him?

Granted I see your point but I really don't think of taking somebody and chaining them into a storage container as Rescuing. Plus the "company" so far has been portrayed at bad.

 

[Prognosticator]

Um....underwhelming premiere. But I could have seen that coming from all of the overhype. It's still a good show though, and I'm not going anywhere as a viewer.

But still. I never wanna see another "I don't know who I am" storyline ever again.

 

[SHHSFW]

Kensei is Linderman - mark my words, part of Linderman's abilities is to regenerate, give life. I guarantee that his powers extended his life for ages.

If is hasn't been said before Kensei = Linderman.

 

[black_dust]

I liked it, peter looks better with shorter hair but what about the scar? even Hiro said "You look diffrent without the scar in seaon 1, least you saw it kinda with Nathan

 

[Midnhtsun]

Kensei is Linderman - mark my words, part of Linderman's abilities is to regenerate, give life. I guarantee that his powers extended his life for ages.

If is hasn't been said before Kensei = Linderman.

Good call havent thought of it that way.

 

[Mysterio]

I liked it, peter looks better with shorter hair but what about the scar? even Hiro said "You look diffrent without the scar in seaon 1, least you saw it kinda with Nathan

Peter hasn't gotten the scar yet.

 

[Mysterio]

Kensei is Linderman - mark my words, part of Linderman's abilities is to regenerate, give life. I guarantee that his powers extended his life for ages.

If is hasn't been said before Kensei = Linderman.

his ability is to heal others. he healed others in the graphic novels and he healed others (and a plant) on the show.

 

[SHHSFW]

I obviously don't have proof - and I know he can heal others...but just a gut feeling (and the actor's portrayal, which just reeked of McDowell).

Besides, how else do you really have that symbol following these people from feudal Japan all the way to present time? Having it be something significant that Linderman carried with him would make more sense (even if it is connected to this mysterious other person)

 

[NateGray]

Kensei is Linderman - mark my words, part of Linderman's abilities is to regenerate, give life. I guarantee that his powers extended his life for ages.

If is hasn't been said before Kensei = Linderman.

Well if you watch the trailer for this season, there is a scene where HRG is slapping down someone who looks a lot like Linderman so it may be possible doubtful but possible.

 

[Mysterio]

Besides, how else do you really have that symbol following these people from feudal Japan all the way to present time? Having it be something significant that Linderman carried with him would make more sense (even if it is connected to this mysterious other person)

the same way heirlooms or even other symbols and rituals of orders and secret societies are handed down and passed on. the Volume is called Generations after all.

 

[SuperBatman]

I thought Linderman died. I mean he had his brain pulled from his head.

 

[Omega Red]

This show will not have the slump that alot of shows have. They will keep you guessing until the end

 

[Duende Verde]

Here's what I got from last night's episode.
The Guatemalan siblings look like they are some sort of inverse Cloak & Dagger.

And Mohinder is trying to stop the Heroes version of The Legacy Virus.