The Dark Knight Rises Characters that may have comic counterparts

Discussion in 'The Dark Knight Trilogy' started by TheRegSays, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. TheRegSays

    TheRegSays Civilian

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    With all the bruhaha that John Blake may be Dick Grayson/Robin/Nightwing, it got me to thinking that Chris Nolan does like to take liberties when it comes to his characters. Meaning, he likes to create characters that do not exist in the comics. I thought to myself if it would be more meaningful to us comic fans if he used more comic characters, even if they had minor roles? Like Zsaz. I was very happy that he was included even for such a small role.

    For example, the cop that was guarding Joker in the interrogation room. I've heard people say he would make a good Sgt. Bullock (I'm not sure if he had a name in the movie). I also remember thinking why Ramirez isn't Montoya (but I understood in the end why).

    Rachel Dawes. I think I could have cared more too if it was an existing character. Could they have named her Silver St. Cloud? Maybe the name was too ridiculous for a movie. First love Julie Madison? I would've even appreciated a Gilda... anticipating her ending up with Harvey. Any other suggestions?

    Others that come to mind:

    The prisoner in the boat who threw out the detonator = I would have loved a "W. Jones" on his chest.

    Earle? Rupert Thorne.

    Things like that. Little easter eggs for fanboys that really wouldn't matter to the casual fan. What do you guys think?
     
    #1 TheRegSays, Jul 10, 2012
  2. Chrisbarnes182

    Chrisbarnes182 Guest

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2012
    Messages:
    680
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like what your saying. Some little thing like that would have been good.
     
    #2 Chrisbarnes182, Sep 11, 2012
  3. Anno_Domini

    Anno_Domini Avenger

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    17,997
    Likes Received:
    4
    Detective Flass - the bad side of Detective Bullock

    Detective Stephens - more of a build of the comics' version of Flass, but also the good side of Detective Bullock

    Detective Ramirez - Renee Montoya in many aspects

    Coleman Reese - HAS to be a nod to Riddler in some way

    Barsad - a nod to Deadshot

    Rachel Dawes - reminded me of a Gilda Dent in The Dark Knight, could've had inspirations of one of Bruce Wayne's love interests in the comics as well

    Not really a nod but Alfred J. Pennyworth...the middle initial said at the end of TDKR could be a nod to Alfred's father, Jarvis
     
    #3 Anno_Domini, Sep 11, 2012
  4. kewlmatto

    kewlmatto Civilian

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    303
    Likes Received:
    0
    Most of these are a bit of a stretch, but it is possible they were inspired by several characters. I'm fine with movies making new characters though.

    I think a few more nods would have been fine, so long as they were written with a fair amount of subtlety. The 'Robin' John Blake wasn't, it was so jarring.

    I'd say Earle is a little closer to Lew Moxon than Rupert Thorne.

    Daggett was already a nod to the animated series. 'Jen' was clearly Holly.
     
    #4 kewlmatto, Sep 12, 2012
  5. Caekzor

    Caekzor Civilian

    Joined:
    May 24, 2011
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    0
    Then you would see people complaining ad nauseam that they weren't completely true to the characters. :funny:
     
    #5 Caekzor, Sep 16, 2012
  6. Chrisbarnes182

    Chrisbarnes182 Guest

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2012
    Messages:
    680
    Likes Received:
    0

    Right up until the film was released I was under the impression that Juno Temple was playing Holly. I wonder why the name change
     
    #6 Chrisbarnes182, Sep 17, 2012
  7. Victarion

    Victarion Iron Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    20,499
    Likes Received:
    4
    Guys. Dig around Chris's Batman site. An older plot summary for TDKR--supposedly one of the many fakes that was put out--involves Sionis and Talia. The Bat is also mentioned. I submit that Dagget was meant to be a reference to Black Mask and his BTAS counterpart.
     
    #7 Victarion, Nov 18, 2012
  8. Uroboric Forms

    Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,212
    Likes Received:
    0
    Every time I watch the film I think of the Barsad as TDKR's version of Bird, 'the child's protector' as Trogg and the prison doctor as Zombie.
     
    #8 Uroboric Forms, Dec 1, 2012
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2012
  9. Fudgie

    Fudgie Sidekick

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2010
    Messages:
    2,197
    Likes Received:
    2
    No Dawes please.
     
    #9 Fudgie, Dec 3, 2012
  10. Anno_Domini

    Anno_Domini Avenger

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    17,997
    Likes Received:
    4
    Hrm?
     
    #10 Anno_Domini, Dec 3, 2012
  11. Anno_Domini

    Anno_Domini Avenger

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    17,997
    Likes Received:
    4
    Much as how Rachel Dawes was used and not Harvey Dent in Batman Begins, Holly wouldn't have been represented correctly with the way the character was used in TDKR, so giving her a different identity of Jen is the best way to go.

    If they wanted to go for Holly Robinson, one would expect her to have a worthwhile storyline in which 'Jen' did not.
     
    #11 Anno_Domini, Dec 3, 2012
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn More...
    Dismiss Notice
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn More...
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"