Christopher Nolan: Recicling element more than once

[Lord]

Ok, i only watched Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Inception and Insominia ( i loved all of them) but many elements were recicled some times from what i've seen.
First is the fact that the protagonist killed somebody he shouldn't by istake
The Dark Knight- Rachel
Insomnia- a guy al pacino shoots
Inception- The protagonist's wife
And in Begins he reuses a line from Insomnia:
"it was only him"
I don't know if the line is right but it's that one when alfred says it wasn't bruce's fault of his parents death.

 

[dark_b]

a lot of directors do this.

if a movie would feel 100% the same then it would be bad. but here its is not IMO.

 

[redhawk23]

It's spelled "Recycle"

Also batman didn't kill Rachel, he just failed to save her. Thats not the same thing as Insomnia at all.

And the line "its only him" is pretty random isn't it? Its not anything memorable like "the night is always darkest before the dawn," or "why so serious."

If you were going to make this argument you'd be better off mentioning how many women in his films are dead and how of often their deaths are the impetus for the protagonists actions.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Alfred Hitchcock is a better example than Christopher Nolan. He used the "guy is framed" storyline many times and he's considered one of the greatest directors of all time.

 

[Bunker]

Dead lovers and obsession are the main staples of his movies, not accidentally killing someone. Nice try, though.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

And Bruce didn't kill Rachel. He just couldn't save her in time.

 

[Octoberist]

David fincher mostly deals with outsiders (ie Fight Club, Social network). Even Ben Button. Early Spileberg dealt with everyday people dealing extraordinary events. Wea Anderson deal with family issues. Every director does it.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I think this guy is just trying to get attention, as about half of this forum's users adore Nolan.

 

[vanson]

and the other thing is that the joker tricked batman. if you watch closely you´ll notice that batman says to gordon he´ll go to rachel, but he arrives where harvey is.. so the joker knew how batman would choose and switched the address..

so there was simply no chance he could save her..

 

[bullets]

I think this guy is just trying to get attention, as about half of this forum's users adore Nolan.

Any mention of Nolan on these boards will stir controversy whether intended or not. Could be suspect though , I've come across this argument several times.

 

[Brother Jack]

And Bruce didn't kill Rachel. He just couldn't save her in time.

It could be argued that Bruce inadvertently caused her death because in creating Batman he allowed the Joker to come into power and screw up everything, leading in part to Rachel and Harvey's kidnapping. Plus, he would have saved her had he not made the rather selfish choice of her life over Dent's.

But that's not the same as actually killing her.

 

[:eek:]

Most directors and writers are using elements over and over again. I doubt they're doing it on purpose. It's just something that happens when you create a story.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I beleive its called being an auteur.

 

[Master Chief]

And in Begins he reuses a line from Insomnia:
"it was only him"
I don't know if the line is right but it's that one when alfred says it wasn't bruce's fault of his parents death.

lol

 

[san15]

It's spelled "Recycle"

Also batman didn't kill Rachel, he just failed to save her. Thats not the same thing as Insomnia at all.

And the line "its only him" is pretty random isn't it? Its not anything memorable like "the night is always darkest before the dawn," or "why so serious."

If you were going to make this argument you'd be better off mentioning how many women in his films are dead and how of often their deaths are the impetus for the protagonists actions.

We’re going to see something like that AGAIN in the forthcoming TDKR. This time with Ra al Ghul’s wife.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/cigarettebreathmoviehater/news/?a=36243

 

[jacobed]

You want the perfect example of a director "recycling ideas" Spielberg and his character's having father issues.

 

[redhawk23]

my deal is there are several routes the OP could have gone with this, but the examples he gave are pretty weak.

 

[redhawk23]

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/fe...r-christopher-nolans-*******-protagonists.php

heres a really insightful article on the matter.

 

[dude stannis]

We’re going to see something like that AGAIN in the forthcoming TDKR. This time with Ra al Ghul’s wife.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/cigarettebreathmoviehater/news/?a=36243

Liam Neeson's face in that pic is pretty much the definition of 'Haters gonna hate'.

The only motif that Nolan truly recycles is the death of a wife or lover that either fuels the protagonist (Memento, Inception) or becomes a consequence of their obsession (The Prestige, The Dark Knight). Even then Insomnia and Batman Begins are exceptions to the rule. I wonder how Emma Thomas feels about this anyway?

 

[Eggyman]

David fincher mostly deals with outsiders (ie Fight Club, Social network). Even Ben Button. Early Spileberg dealt with everyday people dealing extraordinary events. Wea Anderson deal with family issues. Every director does it.

Ripley not an inmate. Jake (forgot the charater's name) being an artist not welcomed into the newsroom meetings. Brad being a new cop at the station. Good eye.

(Some people says he has two )

 

[Doctor Jones]

Gyllenhaal plays Robert Greysmith in Zodiac.

 

[san15]

Liam Neeson's face in that pic is pretty much the definition of 'Haters gonna hate'.

The only motif that Nolan truly recycles is the death of a wife or lover that either fuels the protagonist (Memento, Inception) or becomes a consequence of their obsession (The Prestige, The Dark Knight). Even then Insomnia and Batman Begins are exceptions to the rule. I wonder how Emma Thomas feels about this anyway?

I think Emma Thomas needs Chris Nolan more than he needs her in an industry dominated by men. What if she was able to speak her mind on how to portray strong female characters in Nolan’s films? Which probably doesn’t involve women dying all the time. As a result her husband might disagree and most likely cause tension on the set. She could probably fire him right on the spot and face severe repercussions when the higher ups (The Big Boys) decide to take their revenge. Eventually ostracizing her from Hollywood. Also Nolan’s marriage might fall apart and their children will be affected too. It sounds really terrible, but men in Hollywood don’t like taking orders from women.

 

[dude stannis]

You're insane.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Lord: Misspelling words more than once

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

You want the perfect example of a director "recycling ideas" Spielberg and his character's having father issues.

M Night is pretty bad for recycling elements from his previous more successful films. Not just talking about always doing twists either (although he's certainly guilty of that). There's always someone on a journey of self-discovery who while confronting some epic external threat learns more about some hidden power (either literally or metaphorically) within him or herself that enables him to combat said external threat.

We should just hijack this sorry thread and re-title it "What directors are guilty of recycling elements from previous films?" It would make for much more interesting discussion.