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Christopher Priest talks about Black Panther

Priest is correct in saying they need to make sure they take it carefully here because by virtue of the subject matter, it's gonna be more than just a superhero movie.

For what it is worth, in an interview this week, Feige said they were making sure they're very careful with this and Captain Marvel because they know launching movies starring a black and female superhero are gonna come with some challenges and sensitivities they need to be conscious of.
 
I see no reason for the Wakandans to feel either shame, guilt, or embarrassment for their situation vis-a-via the rest of the continent. Due to various reasons, Wakanda avoided being colonized while continuing to develop. Meanwhile, due to other various reasons, the other ethnic groups / tribes / kingdoms in the continent succumbed to colonization. It's what it is.

I'm not talking about colonization, I'm talking about present day poverty and crisis situations. Example, Boko Haram kidnapping and murdering children in Nigeria. 5000 children die a day from drinking unclean water in sub-Saharan Africa, etc.

European countries are helping, yet the worlds most advanced nation (That's in the same continent) does nothing. Now I'm not saying they should do anything. I'm just saying it should be addressed. If there are arrogant and xenophobic, then they should focus on it, and hopefully change there ways towards the end of the movie. It will be a good story arc.

With Wakanda opening up a bit, I can see the country working with other African nations on various issues, especially with its neighbors.

Yea that's what I was also thinking. It will be a good story of changing old fashioned ways, progression and international integration. How T'challa breaks down the walls between Wakanda and the rest of the world.
 
How about Wakanda = Japan?

Both were isolated societies for years and ended up being modernized while still keeping it's traditions. I think both countries are similar (minus the whole Japanese Empire era).
 
Japan has heavily westernized though. There is still a big emphasis on tradition and customs, but they've still embraced capitalism and globalization in a way that Wakanda hasn't. Wakanda would have a more alien feeling from an American perspective.
 
I'm more concerned about Marvels understanding of African culture considering the movie is set in Africa.
African Americans have probably the same amount of understanding of Africa, as the average white guy. How offended could African Americans possibly be if they no nothing about the culture?



Again I would be more concerned about Africa's opinions. I enjoyed Sense8 but I found a review from a Kenyan that felt insulted by the depiction of African segments. I'm worried Black Panther it will be an exaggeration of African culture. [YT]2LfV0gXejcw[/YT]

Totally agree. Hope that they can get africa right. Show the beauty and the horror. The nature and the warlords. The rich and different cultures. We have enough super hero based in america. And this shouldn't be aimed at african americans but showing the world africa through the eyes of an african superhero.
 
I'm not talking about colonization, I'm talking about present day poverty and crisis situations. Example, Boko Haram kidnapping and murdering children in Nigeria. 5000 children die a day from drinking unclean water in sub-Saharan Africa, etc.

European countries are helping, yet the worlds most advanced nation (That's in the same continent) does nothing. Now I'm not saying they should do anything. I'm just saying it should be addressed. If there are arrogant and xenophobic, then they should focus on it, and hopefully change there ways towards the end of the movie. It will be a good story arc.

Ahh, I see.

In that case, one will have to give a good reason why it would be in the best interests of Wakanda to be more involved in affairs outside of its own, and there are very good reasons to do so. Even the European nations that are helping (which is great) aren't helping for purely altruistic reasons (a topic for another day).

I do agree, if done well it could be a great story arc for the film. And speaking of which...

Yea that's what I was also thinking. It will be a good story of changing old fashioned ways, progression and international integration. How T'challa breaks down the walls between Wakanda and the rest of the world.

This is where, I believe, T'Challa's supporting cast is critical. They should represent the many Wakandan viewpoints on whether or not Wakanda should open itself more to the world, and if so, to what degree. Here's how I would do it:

1. The idea of Wakanda "opening up" should come not from T'Challa, but from his father, T'Chaka. After T'Challa is born and N'yami passes away, T'Chaka marries a foreigner (Ramonda), and produced a child with her (Shuri). He later allows T'Challa to study overseas (Shuri opts to continue studying in Wakanda).

Certain events during T'Chaka's rule make him conclude that Wakanda's isolationist policies should be dropped at some point. However, to what degree would T'Chaka want Wakanda involved with the outside world is not completely known, as he is killed by the villain (possibly Klaw) before his plans go in motion.

2. T'Challa, who looks up to his father, considers whether his father was making the right decision in potentially ending the isolationist policy. Based on events prior to the BP movie, he believes T'Chaka was correct, and intends on following through with his father's idea, though in his own way. Outside of practical reasons, T'Challa now has a personal reason to go with it.

3. When T'Challa proposes the end of the isolationist policy, the responses from his family and closest friends / confidants are very mixed:

-Ramonda and T'Challa's love interest wholeheartedly agree it is the correct course of action, believing Wakanda can be a very positive influence in the region, and possibly the world at large.
-W'Kabi and S'yan are against it. The policy, they believe, has worked for Wakanda for centuries, and has been implemented for a reason.
-Zuri and Shuri are open to the idea. However, they are concerned on how far T'Challa is willing to go with it.

Throughout the film, the supporting cast give their opinions on why or why not the isolationist policy should be dropped.

4. A major event that occurs in the film intensifies the debate and forces T'Challa to question his stance on the issue. Shortly after, the debate comes to a head. T'Challa has to make a decision and, regardless of their reservations, the supporting cast will follow their King's directives. He makes his decision. The movie goes on from there.

If something like this happens in the film, in addition to great action scenes, I would be very happy lol.

EDIT: apologies for long post.
 
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Ahh, I see.

In that case, one will have to give a good reason why it would be in the best interests of Wakanda to be more involved in affairs outside of its own, and there are very good reasons to do so. Even the European nations that are helping (which is great) aren't helping for purely altruistic reasons (a topic for another day).

I do agree, if done well it could be a great story arc for the film. And speaking of which...



This is where, I believe, T'Challa's supporting cast is critical. They should represent the many Wakandan viewpoints on whether or not Wakanda should open itself more to the world, and if so, to what degree. Here's how I would do it:

1. The idea of Wakanda "opening up" should come not from T'Challa, but from his father, T'Chaka. After T'Challa is born and N'yami passes away, T'Chaka marries a foreigner (Ramonda), and produced a child with her (Shuri). He later allows T'Challa to study overseas (Shuri opts to continue studying in Wakanda).

Certain events during T'Chaka's rule make him conclude that Wakanda's isolationist policies should be dropped at some point. However, to what degree would T'Chaka want Wakanda involved with the outside world is not completely known, as he is killed by the villain (possibly Klaw) before his plans go in motion.

2. T'Challa, who looks up to his father, considers whether his father was making the right decision in potentially ending the isolationist policy. Based on events prior to the BP movie, he believes T'Chaka was correct, and intends on following through with his father's idea, though in his own way. Outside of practical reasons, T'Challa now has a personal reason to go with it.

3. When T'Challa proposes the end of the isolationist policy, the responses from his family and closest friends / confidants are very mixed:

-Ramonda and T'Challa's love interest wholeheartedly agree it is the correct course of action, believing Wakanda can be a very positive influence in the region, and possibly the world at large.
-W'Kabi and S'yan are against it. The policy, they believe, has worked for Wakanda for centuries, and has been implemented for a reason.
-Zuri and Shuri are open to the idea. However, they are concerned on how far T'Challa is willing to go with it.

Throughout the film, the supporting cast give their opinions on why or why not the isolationist policy should be dropped.

4. A major event that occurs in the film intensifies the debate and forces T'Challa to question his stance on the issue. Shortly after, the debate comes to a head. T'Challa has to make a decision and, regardless of their reservations, the supporting cast will follow their King's directives. He makes his decision. The movie goes on from there.

If something like this happens in the film, in addition to great action scenes, I would be very happy lol.

EDIT: apologies for long post.

Don't apologize. It was a good read. :up: I also want this to deal with as many social and political problems as they do with action and and super heroics. This movie could be another unique genre breaking triumph if they can strike the right balance. Kind of like House of Cards meets Batman. :cool:
4. A major event that occurs in the film intensifies the debate and forces T'Challa to question his stance on the issue. Shortly after, the debate comes to a head. T'Challa has to make a decision and, regardless of their reservations, the supporting cast will follow their King's directives. He makes his decision. The movie goes on from there.

I fear Civil War might have already jumped ahead and taken that idea hence BP's inclusion in Civil War. This has got me worried that the Black Panther movie might feel like more of a sequel to Civil War and less like it's own thing. The solution to that would be to take your ideas and have a heavy emphasis on flashbacks and T'chaka.
 
Don't apologize. It was a good read. :up: I also want this to deal with as many social and political problems as they do with action and and super heroics. This movie could be another unique genre breaking triumph if they can strike the right balance. Kind of like House of Cards meets Batman. :cool:


I fear Civil War might have already jumped ahead and taken that idea hence BP's inclusion in Civil War. This has got me worried that the Black Panther movie might feel like more of a sequel to Civil War and less like it's own thing. The solution to that would be to take your ideas and have a heavy emphasis on flashbacks and T'chaka.

Good point there, forgot about the Civil War events. And it wouldn't be too big of a deal, if it wasn't for the movie being pushed back. That's slightly over two full years between Civil War and the BP film. *sighs*

On the flipside, a short, relevant cameo by some members of the Avengers would be interesting, especially with Infinity War Pt.1 preceeding the movie. Their presence can indirectly bring focus to the isolationism debate.
 
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