Winston Duke IS M'Baku

They touched on the virtue and might of a gorilla and not the racial implications. seeing him running around in his comic costume would be very awkward.

it's best to keep MBaku as a frenemy. he is never going to worship Tchalla but he respects him.

He is too wisely portrayed to become a dupe for Loki or whoever else is out there among bad guys.
 
I think they threaded the needle with M'Baku. They didn't entirely remove the traditional White Gorilla aspects, but they made very clear that he and his are not mindless animalistic savages. He's an intelligent, capable leader, not a berserker, and so the gorilla imagery comes off as totemic, rather than demeaning.

Admittedly, it helps that I can easily envision M'Baku rolling his eyes at the phrase "Man-Ape", openly wondering why someone would use should a weird redundancy.
 
His character actually made a bigger impression on me the second time around. I thought he did a really good job the first time, but he somehow stood out even more on my second viewing. Shout out to M’Baku. :up:
 
Something I think I only noticed the 4th time is that m'baku is now on the king's small council having replaced w'kabi and his tribe's elder
 
Is it just me or is M'Baku a bit juiced in the last fight? He picks up 1 dude by the neck 1 armed and sends another dude flying up in to the air after hitting him in an upward motion with his staff these are greater feats than any other strictly human feat (not using tech or magic) these are greater feats than the ones we saw from depowered Thor in Thor 1 who was pretty much peak human at the time
 
He's physically stronger than a human should be in that fight, yes, but I kind of see that as fitting the other characters who seem at the finite perception of human strength like Kingpin. And who knows? Maybe his tribe does something similar to the Black Panther, but with different plants or treatments.

By the by, here's an essay I wrote about M'Baku while waiting for my buddy to watch the films so we could do a podcast over it: https://franchisewars.tumblr.com/post/171295364700/black-panther-review-and-sociological
 
Would like to know just how primitive the Jobari are. Are they primitive by Wakandan standards which could potentially mean there decades ahead of the average 1st world country.

They SEEM to be primitive mountain men, but the construction used to build there city must have been done with machines.

Do they use some kind of Wakandan magic to compensate for the lack of technology?
 
Winston Duke is on Hardball with Chris Matthews now talking about BP.
 
MCU M'Baku is pretty much Priest era Zuri. Big strong loud brash guy...minus Zuri's loyalty to T'challa.
 
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Duke seems to be getting LOTS of love online.

He deserves it. His obvious enjoyment in playing the role and being part of the movie comes through to the audience and is infectious. Plus, the characters as presented is fun but his inherent dignity is never undermined.
 
Would like to know just how primitive the Jobari are. Are they primitive by Wakandan standards which could potentially mean there decades ahead of the average 1st world country.

They SEEM to be primitive mountain men, but the construction used to build there city must have been done with machines.

Do they use some kind of Wakandan magic to compensate for the lack of technology?

The Jobari have lights inside their buildings, which says to me that they are only primitive by Wakandan standards. The entryway to M'Baku's throne room had lighted panels in the walls, for instance. It seems that they don't want Wakanda to be reliant on the sort of extremely advanced technology that Shuri is creating. M'Baku specifically derides what he sees as the country's turn away from their traditional way of life.

I loved M'Baku and his tribe even more after watching Black Panther a second time yesterday. He is going to be in IW, hopefully with his strength and humor intact.
 
After watching the movie a 3rd time (1st: by myself, 2nd: I took my parents who haven't sat down at a movie theatre in 50 years 3rd:with a friend who was SUPPOSED to be with me on the 1st time), just looking at the background of "Jabari Land" outside of M'Baku's throne, you can see that their buildings are just as impressive as the capital of Wakanda, perhaps even moreso since they are built with the uneven mountains as a base.

So just judging by the scenery of the land the Jabari tribe and M'Baku aren't anti-technology at all. They are "primitive" when it comes to modern Wakandan standards, but they are "primitive" in the same way my parents are "primitive" as compared to my 16 year old niece. As xeno000 said, it seems that the Jabari don't want Wakanda reliant on the impressive technology that they have (while at the same time scoffing at the traditions of the country), which actually rings parallel to how people of say my generation (90's kid) and older feel that the kids today stay glued to their screens...we will not have it. I said WE WILL NOT HAVE IT!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Man-Ape was really a problematic character in the same way that someone like the Mandarin (Iron-Man) was. However, instead of ignoring the character or doing what they did with the Mandarin in IM3, they went out of their way to strip to the core base of the character, and build in a direction that is still true to the character yet making him more acceptable and well...likeable. I want to see him as a villain (who doesn't get killed), but we have many people who want him to remain a Vegeta to T'Challa's Goku. That is how you take a character who is a HORRIBLE stereotype and turning him into something worthwhile. I normally complain when comics try to ape (pun intended) off of the movies, but M'Baku is one of those characters who definitely should move to match his movie counterpart a bit more.
 
I would go see a movie based on M’Baku and the Jabari tribe.
 
I would go see a movie based on M’Baku and the Jabari tribe.

So would I. We need to see more from them. Really added a lot to this film.
 
He breaks down the Jabari war cry.
[YT]dztROTG2nEM[/YT]
 
Love that chant!
 
Here's an article about the VFX works for Jabari mountain. The landscape is gorgeous and those buildings prove that Jabari tribe is not completely against technology; they just want to maintain their traditional lifestyle and reduce the dependence on technology by choice. They are still more advanced than your average western society.

http://www.artofvfx.com/black-panther-jonathan-weber-vfx-supervisor-rise/

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There's an interview with WD where he talks about the gorilla and how it holds up as a symbol of the Jabari. He talks about them being in your face and unstealthy, as opposed to the panther.

That's funny when you consider that in the final battle, M'Baku does somehow manage to sneak up with his crew on the border tribe in broad daylight and get within arm's length to W'Kabi without being noticed.
 
Can someone confirm if there were women in M'Baku's army? It came up in conversation with a friend.
 
MCU M'Baku is pretty much Priest era Zuri. Big strong loud brash guy...minus Zuri's loyalty to T'challa.

Yea, they basically mixed the ratios of a few characters, imho. Either in personality, function or both.

MCU M'Baku has a little of 616 Zuri to him; MCU Zuri has a bit of 616 N'Gassi; MCU Shuri a little 616 Taku.
 
I really liked the Jabari Mountain location. Wonder if we’ll see it again.
 
Yea, they basically mixed the ratios of a few characters, imho. Either in personality, function or both.

MCU M'Baku has a little of 616 Zuri to him; MCU Zuri has a bit of 616 N'Gassi; MCU Shuri a little 616 Taku.

And a little Queen Divine Justice.
 

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