Winston Duke IS M'Baku

[tamron]

And a little Queen Divine Justice.

True indeed.

Though I'm hoping the community outreach plot dangler leads us to the real deal in a sequel.

 

[Loki882]

Can someone confirm if there were women in M'Baku's army? It came up in conversation with a friend.

One of the first Jabari warriors that we see attack is a fierce-looking woman. They even do a close-up on her face and she skewers a guy on her spear.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah I remember a few when M'Baku and his warriors turned up at the final battle.

 

[RockSP]

Don't look unless you've seen the movie:

Spoiler

 

[eon001]

One of the first Jabari warriors that we see attack is a fierce-looking woman. They even do a close-up on her face and she skewers a guy on her spear.

Yea I noticed that in the 2nd viewing. There's a rumored 4 hour cut of this movie. I expect they get more screen time there.

Looking forward to the deleted scenes.

 

[Hypestyle]

has it been revealed what all technology that the Jabari shun? Do they stick to a certain time period?

How did they get the elaborate gorilla statue carved into the mountain?

 

[Iceman]

Yea I noticed that in the 2nd viewing. There's a rumored 4 hour cut of this movie. I expect they get more screen time there.

Looking forward to the deleted scenes.

Give me the 4 hour cut please!

 

[tamron]

has it been revealed what all technology that the Jabari shun? Do they stick to a certain time period?

How did they get the elaborate gorilla statue carved into the mountain?

They're not quite "against technology". Duke goes into slightly more detail in these two interviews.

Entertainment Weekly

Interviewer: The Jabari have a separate, traditional culture within a modern one. But then, the Jabari don’t lack technology.

Yeah, they’re not against technology. They’re against Vibranium. Their society is based around Jabari wood.

Interviewer: That’s what we see decorating M’Baku’s throne room.

Yeah, this is something we didn’t get to interrogate deeply in the film, but everything for them is based around this Jabari wood that comes from this sacred tree. Everything in Jabari land is made out of this sacred wood that can essentially go toe-to-toe with a Vibranium sword or a Vibranium weapon because it’s this tempered, strong, treated wood.

Interviewer: But it has its own mythology…

They believe it was given to them by Hanuman, the ape god. Meanwhile, the people of Wakanda will say, “No, it’s actually the Vibranium that’s seeped into the wood. That makes it stronger.” [Laughs] You have this whole divergence of ideas. They’re quite technologically sophisticated but it’s based around wood. Meanwhile, Wakanda proper is technologically advanced based around Vibranium. That’s kind of where they get separated, but it’s still the same house.

Latino Review

Interviewer: Tell us about your character.

M’Baku is the leader of the Jabari tribe, and the Jabari tribe are one of the main tribes of Wakanda, but they disagree on the use of vibranium within the country, and the importance placed on vibranium. So they’ve gone and they retreated into the mountains, and no one talks to them, they don’t deal with Wakandan politics or their economy or anything like that. They have their own society, and they believe in traditional values, valuing the old way, and most importantly they pray to a different god. We pray to the gorilla god Hanuman, while the rest of Wakanda, they pray to Bast, the panther goddess. As a result, you have two different cultures within this one country, and we believe in these isolationist values and we don’t want the borders to open, we don’t want the world to continue the way T’Chaka’s been taking it.

T’Chaka was T’Challa’s father and he went to the U.N. to try to open up and open a discourse with the rest of the world. They’ve been watching that, they pay attention but they don’t usually get involved.

 

[Chance Jackson]

He's physically stronger than a human should be in that fight, yes, but I kind of see that as fitting the other characters who seem at the finite perception of human strength like Kingpin. And who knows? Maybe his tribe does something similar to the Black Panther, but with different plants or treatments.

Apparently in the comics M'Baku eats the heart of a Vibranium mutated white gorilla to gain T'Challa like stats so i wonder assuming M'Baku is juiced did he too go through a depowering ceremony prior to the ritual combat?

By the by, here's an essay I wrote about M'Baku while waiting for my buddy to watch the films so we could do a podcast over it: https://franchisewars.tumblr.com/post/171295364700/black-panther-review-and-sociological

Fascinating read and I think I was wondering some of the same things

 

[daddydivine]

Give me the 4 hour cut please!

I dont care how much the test audience thought it dragged, I'd pay triple for a 4 hour cut.

 

[Iceman]

I dont care how much the test audience thought it dragged, I'd pay triple for a 4 hour cut.

And me. I'm happy to hold a test audience member in a headlock for the duration if it helps.

 

[quara33]

I was not expecting to like M'Baku as much as I did in this--Winston Duke was absolutely amazing (and I loved that he used a different accent to indicate the isolation of the Jabari).

Usually if someone looses a challenge, I expect them to loose the support of their people, but I could absolutely see why the Jabari follow M'Baku, and why T'Challa's "your people need you" line was effective in getting M'Baku to yield rather than die in the challenge.

I also very much liked how well his challenge to T'Challa laid out his motivations for later in the movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He was great, I hope they don’t turn him into a villain in the sequel as I really liked him here.

 

[KevTravels]

He was great, I hope they don’t turn him into a villain in the sequel as I really liked him here.

I can't see them doing that after all the LOVE folks are giving him.

I just hope they don't dumb him down like they did Loki

 

[Iceman]

I was not expecting to like M'Baku as much as I did in this--Winston Duke was absolutely amazing (and I loved that he used a different accent to indicate the isolation of the Jabari).

Usually if someone looses a challenge, I expect them to loose the support of their people, but I could absolutely see why the Jabari follow M'Baku, and why T'Challa's "your people need you" line was effective in getting M'Baku to yield rather than die in the challenge.

I also very much liked how well his challenge to T'Challa laid out his motivations for later in the movie.

I was really glad that BO used that line and that on hearing it, M'Baku yielded.

 

[eon001]

Wow I think M'baku is moving into Loki cult fan status territory. Has anyone peeped the M'baku Challenge?
It's going semi viral

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This kid is a legend t:
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Hahaha this one is gold.
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Ironically the one Nigerian guy ends up doing the weakest impression. Had some good adlibs though haha
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This girl killed it. Funniest so far.
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[russian gal]

Such a highlight of the movie! I love love such no nonsense characters!
Very happy to see that he's a fan fav not only mine

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I can't see them doing that after all the LOVE folks are giving him.

I just hope they don't dumb him down like they did Loki

Yeah he seems too popular to turn into a villain at this point. Plus his arc fit the movies theme of banding together to make a better world.

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

I was just rewatching an Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes episode with M'baku and he's very different from the movie. Never thought je would be one of my faves coming out this movie based on that episode and the very few comics I saw with him pertaining to Panther's arc.

 

[Chesterfield]

Man, these are examples of how to make a great film where audiences want to be EVERYONE of the characters. Seriously, 99% of the film's audience didn't even know who M'Baku was and now look....beautiful.

 

[Raiden]

M'Baku should be a wild card in the sequel; he is loyal to Wakanda but his politic may shift depending on the needs of the Jubari trible. That will be more interesting than if he were just an ally of T'Challa all the time. I also hope that they will define his special ability in the next movie, particularly the Wakanda wood that I've read about whether is supposed to be about as hard as Vibranium because the metal seeped into the roots of those trees and hardened them like metal.

 

[KevTravels]

Man, these are examples of how to make a great film where audiences want to be EVERYONE of the characters. Seriously, 99% of the film's audience didn't even know who M'Baku was and now look....beautiful.

Agreed. Dude had like 10 mins of screentime and he used it to the fullest. He's a major character going forward.

 

[KevTravels]

what accent is the video of the girl?

 

[eon001]

what accent is the video of the girl?

I think she's from Kenya but most likely got private school education. I have cousins in Nigeria that go to "American" school in Africa. They mix only with mostly American kids living in Africa and it creates this interesting African/American hybrid accent.