Clark's Body Count

[Superfreak]

Has anyone counted up the number of people Clark has killed?

This could be outright killing, killed as a necessity, killed by accident.

How many deaths has Clark caused since smallville first began?

 

[Morg]

Quite a few, at least around a dozen I believe

 

[Eros]

That Plant zoner lady he did on purpose.Then a bunch of excidental Krytpo freaks, but thats really not his fault, as they usually do stupid things and get their asses dead.

 

[Kaboom]

johnathan

 

[November Rain]

a lot of people do die in smallville, quite a few actually...

kinda weird when you think about it....

 

[Eros]

Only badguys who die are those who discover Clarks secret [which is alot of them if not all].

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Would Lana's parents count? And all the hundreds of people who got mutated by the rocks Clark's ship brought to Earth?

 

[Brainiac 2009]

johnathan

He was.

But he shouldnt have been, poor guy.

 

[Superfreak]

Would Lana's parents count? And all the hundreds of people who got mutated by the rocks Clark's ship brought to Earth?

nope, because the meteor shower would have still hit earth, with or without the ship

 

[AgentPat]

FOTW's, and any other character that's died during a battle with Clark, have died as a result of their own actions and/or the intervention of another character. Jonathan died from a heart attack.

 

[Superfreak]

FOTW's, and any other character that's died during a battle with Clark, have died as a result of their own actions and/or the intervention of another character. Jonathan died from a heart attack.

yeah, but if Clark's interventions lead to their deaths, be it by his hand, or there own, it still counts to his body count.

 

[AgentPat]

yeah, but if Clark's interventions lead to their deaths, be it by his hand, or there own, it still counts to his body count.

You asked if anyone counted the number of people Clark has killed. He hasn't killed anybody. That was my point. Clark *cough*Superman*cough* doesn't kill.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

yeah, but if Clark's interventions lead to their deaths, be it by his hand, or there own, it still counts to his body count.

Thats true, he chose to bring back Lana, despite Jor-El's warning that the universe would correct itself and another life would be sacrificed for hers....unfortunately it was Jonathan's.

It was just a bad decision. He was so emotional that I dont think he realized he was signing Jonathan's death sentence. All that mattered was saving Lana.

 

[Superfreak]

Thats true, he chose to bring back Lana, despite Jor-El's warning that the universe would correct itself and another life would be sacrificed for hers....unfortunately it was Jonathan's.

It was just a bad decision. He was so emotional that I dont think he realized he was signing Jonathan's death sentence. All that mattered was saving Lana.

JKent counts for sure, but I was really trying to say, the FOTW that would have lived on happily in their evil little lives, if Clark had not interfered with their devious plans, definately count towards his body count. Intentional or not, Clark's interference leads to their deaths.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

JKent counts for sure, but I was really trying to say, the FOTW that would have lived on happily in their evil little lives, if Clark had not interfered with their devious plans, definately count towards his body count. Intentional or not, Clark's interference leads to their deaths.

I dont understand something though, if Clark had never came to Earth, what makes you think there would still have been a meteor shower? From what I remember from the pilot, the meteor rocks came through the lightspeed vortex his ship came out from. In essense, the ship brought the rocks with it.

 

[Superfreak]

I dont understand something though, if Clark had never came to Earth, what makes you think there would still have been a meteor shower? From what I remember from the pilot, the meteor rocks came through the lightspeed vortex his ship came out from. In essense, the ship brought the rocks with it.

don't remember a light speed vortex, but even if that is true, I think we can forgive him for that one, since he was locked in a tiny little pod, and was barely an infant. I think we can chalk those ones up for Jor'el, he was surely the one responsible for that mess

 

[Kaboom]

don't remember a light speed vortex, but even if that is true, I think we can forgive him for that one, since he was locked in a tiny little pod, and was barely an infant. I think we can chalk those ones up for Jor'el, he was surely the one responsible for that mess

ummmmmmmm...Jor-El warned he kryptonians the planet was about to explode, he didnt cause the explosion

 

[AgentPat]

JKent counts for sure, but I was really trying to say, the FOTW that would have lived on happily in their evil little lives, if Clark had not interfered with their devious plans, definitely count towards his body count. Intentional or not, Clark's interference leads to their deaths.

A LOT of characters have died on the show, but it's the nature of the genre: bad guys usually die when they fight good guys LOL. I wouldn't quantify those deaths as being caused by the protagonist's "interference." I understand the concept SF, but try looking at it from the POV of how many characters Clark saved by preventing the antagonist from proceeding with whatever nefarious activity they were engaged in that drew Clark's attention to them in the first place.

 

[Superfreak]

ummmmmmmm...Jor-El warned he kryptonians the planet was about to explode, he didnt cause the explosion

but if the so called lightspeed vortex is a reality within SV, then it was surely Jor'el who opened such a vortex for Clark to travel to earth through, along with a selection of the local kryptonian geology

 

[Brainiac 2009]

don't remember a light speed vortex, but even if that is true, I think we can forgive him for that one, since he was locked in a tiny little pod, and was barely an infant. I think we can chalk those ones up for Jor'el, he was surely the one responsible for that mess

I'd still call it unintentional. But in a world without Clark's arrival, the hundreds of humans would never have become meteor freaks.....and Lex would be dead or possibly badly crippled. Sounds like an interesting episode. Lana probably wouldnt be in the mess she is in right now either. It makes you ponder the question whether Clark's presense unintentionally created all the problems he now faces?

 

[Superfreak]

A LOT of characters have died on the show, but it's the nature of the genre: bad guys usually die when they fight good guys LOL. I wouldn't quantify those deaths as being caused by the protagonist's "interference." I understand the concept SF, but try looking at it from the POV of how many characters Clark saved by preventing the antagonist from proceeding with whatever nefarious activity they were engaged in that drew Clark's attention to them in the first place.

yes yes yes Pat. Look, I'm not trying to draw Clark as a villain here. This is not an attack. I don't care if the death of one FOTW saved a zillion lives in the future.

I just want to know, how many characters on the show Clark has had a direct hand, or a helping hand in their deaths. This is a pure numbers question.

I don't care about the moral equation that you are tieing to the question.

 

[Superfreak]

I'd still call it unintentional. But in a world without Clark's arrival, the hundreds of humans would never have become meteor freaks.....and Lex would be dead or possibly badly crippled. Sounds like an interesting episode. Lana probably wouldnt be in the mess she is in right now either. It makes you ponder the question whether Clark's presense unintentionally created all the problems he now faces?

I still don't know about this vortex you are talking about, I'll have to check it out, but I honestly don't remember that.

I think we've discussed that before, do a search. We discussed a potential episode called 'world without a superman' and how much better the world was without a clark etc.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

I still don't know about this vortex you are talking about, I'll have to check it out, but I honestly don't remember that.

Ya I wasnt sure about it either. Havent seen it since it aired. But I dont think its a coincidence that the second meteor shower came with Brainiac's ship as well.

The speed of the ship probably brought the rocks with it.

The ship had to have had some kind of lightspeed drive anyway, or Clark would be alot older than 2/3 when it finally arrived on Earth.

 

[Antrax255]

Every time Clark does one of his grab and toss em they die.

 

[Superfreak]

Ya I wasnt sure about it either. Havent seen it since it aired. But I dont think its a coincidence that the second meteor shower came with Brainiac's ship as well.

The speed of the ship probably brought the rocks with it.

The ship had to have had some kind of lightspeed drive anyway, or Clark would be alot older than 2/3 when it finally arrived on Earth.

not necessarily, but I don't want to get into a whole thing about relativity and faster than light travel