Comic Books You Consider Over-Rated...

[Comics N' Toons]

There is already an "under-rated comic book thread," so I made this.

This is a thread for comic books you feel are over-rated or get way more recognition than you feel they deserve... This can include anything you have read (old, new, DC, Marvel, Independent)

I'll start off with: Vertigo's SCALPED series... someone explain the appeal to me...

also, the SIMON DARK series by Steve Niles. Okay it doesn't suck, but it does get a lot of praise and its kind of mediocre at best!

Your turn.

 

[E-Man]

For me it's easily Watchmen. I understood it, so it's not that I didn't get the story. I find it way too convoluted for it's own good. It would have done better as a 6 issue series instead of a 12 issue one IMO.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

World War Hulk. Dear god, what a piece of trash. A fanboy's wet dream is all that trash was.

Planet Hulk on the other hand I liked.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Watchmen is a classic, and Scalped and The Walking Dead are two of the best books on the shelves today. So I find myself in disagreement with just about everyone who's posted in the thread thus far.

 

[trustyside-kick]

The Dark Knight Returns. Sorry, I just don't like Miller's Batman outside of Year One. I will respect what it did for comics, but frankly to me it's one of those "you had to have been there when it came out" to enjoy it and to me that doesn't make it too special compared to stories that are as old as it or older that I enjoy more. I understand his take on the character, but fact remains that his take on the character is not Batman.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I quite enjoyed The Dark Knight Returns, but no, I hardly thought it was one of the all-time greats. And as far as Miller's output goes, I easily preferred his work on Batman: Year One and Daredevil: Born Again.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Dark Knight Returns
Watchmen

 

[E-Man]

Watchmen is a classic, and Scalped and The Walking Dead are two of the best books on the shelves today. So I find myself in disagreement with just about everyone who's posted in the thread thus far.

You disagree with me!!!!!!! I is so mad at the internetz!!11

lol But that's cool. I understand why Watchmen is considered a classic. I can see it's influence, but I am not a fan of it. I think it had too much going on to tell a good story, and that it

The Dark Knight Returns. Sorry, I just don't like Miller's Batman outside of Year One. I will respect what it did for comics, but frankly to me it's one of those "you had to have been there when it came out" to enjoy it and to me that doesn't make it too special compared to stories that are as old as it or older that I enjoy more. I understand his take on the character, but fact remains that his take on the character is not Batman.

I liked Year One better than TDKR, but I still liked TDKR too. I think it's overrated a bit, but it's one of my favorite Batman "Elsewords" type stories.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Dark Knight Returns
Spawn
Invincible

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

The Dark Knight Returns, judging by previous posts, I guess I'm not the only one that thinks so.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I guess the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Killing Joke. I enjoyed it, but I often see it among lists of the best Batman stories, or even best comics, and I really can't say I thought it was that good.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Kingdom Come
Earth X
Pretty much McFarlane's ENTIRE Spider-Man run, Torment in particular.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Kingdom Come
Earth X
Pretty much McFarlane's ENTIRE Spider-Man run, Torment in particular.

Lol, I thought people hated McFarlane's Spider-Man in general, unless you're including his stuff on Amazing than I agree with you.

 

[Manic]

The Dark Knight Returns. And that's not some cliche Frank Miller hate going on, either. I had just seen Sin City in movie theatres, and my immediate thought was "I gotta go out and read me some of that Frank Miller!" I couldn't even finish DKR. Between his writing and art, I just couldn't do it. I started to wonder if I was just biased against older comics because they were written differently back then, but I've since read a ton of comics written during the 70's and 80's. Turns out I just didn't like DKR.

Invincible. I'm sure it's a very enjoyable comic for its many readers, but I just found it a little boring. It wasn't bad. It just didn't grab me.

Final Crisis. "If you didn't like it, you just didn't understand it!" After seeing through the fans' BS attempts to peer pressure others into saying they liked it, I realized that the real reason I didn't like Final Crisis was because the story was just way too damn absurd. It's the exact same reason I didn't like half of Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers. The man pulls about 10,000 completely absurd things out of his hat all at once, and expects you to just accept them. Half the time when I read Final Crisis, I'd run across something and wonder if I was supposed to know about it beforehand because it'd be something way too huge to just spring on a reader like that. A few times, that turned out to be true; despite the claims that it was a more or less self-contained event, I was lost on a few things because I wasn't reading Superman Beyond or Legion of Three Worlds. I gotta tell you though, finding out why Superman singing a song saved the day doesn't make the scene any less ridiculous.

 

[Chris Wallace]

unless you're including his stuff on Amazing than I agree with you.

I am.

 

[E-Man]

The Dark Knight Returns. And that's not some cliche Frank Miller hate going on, either. I had just seen Sin City in movie theatres, and my immediate thought was "I gotta go out and read me some of that Frank Miller!" I couldn't even finish DKR. Between his writing and art, I just couldn't do it. I started to wonder if I was just biased against older comics because they were written differently back then, but I've since read a ton of comics written during the 70's and 80's. Turns out I just didn't like DKR.

Invincible. I'm sure it's a very enjoyable comic for its many readers, but I just found it a little boring. It wasn't bad. It just didn't grab me.

Final Crisis. "If you didn't like it, you just didn't understand it!" After seeing through the fans' BS attempts to peer pressure others into saying they liked it, I realized that the real reason I didn't like Final Crisis was because the story was just way too damn absurd. It's the exact same reason I didn't like half of Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers. The man pulls about 10,000 completely absurd things out of his hat all at once, and expects you to just accept them. Half the time when I read Final Crisis, I'd run across something and wonder if I was supposed to know about it beforehand because it'd be something way too huge to just spring on a reader like that. A few times, that turned out to be true; despite the claims that it was a more or less self-contained event, I was lost on a few things because I wasn't reading Superman Beyond or Legion of Three Worlds. I gotta tell you though, finding out why Superman singing a song saved the day doesn't make the scene any less ridiculous.

I agree with everything you said about Final Crisis. That's why I don't like Morrison much.

 

[Mee]

Identity Crisis

 

[trustyside-kick]

Identity Crisis

You bite your tongue!!

 

[Manic]

Admit it, you probably either asked "Who's Sue Dibney?" or you had to think about it for a long minute when you started reading that story. It was the most overblown reaction to the death of a character nobody really gave a crap about.

That's not to say Sue Dibney wasn't awesome, mind you. I've read "Formerly Known As..." and "I Can't Believe It's Not..." and she was just great. She's just not a big deal. There are some superheroes whose deaths didn't get as much exposure as the Elongated Man's wife.

 

[Watchman]

Identity Crisis

Agreed a hundred times over.

How do we make our silver age heroes cool and badass! Rape!

Turning Jean into a psychopath and Dr. Light into Dr. McRapey= stupid.

 

[J. Custer]

THE BOYS by Garth Ennis. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that book is so great. Preacher was genius and so interesting,well drawn, and paced. The Boys is Garth in shock/hack mode. Shock for the sake of shock.

I remember reading a discussion board where people were saying they laughed so hard when a hamster crawled out of a characters a**. How is that funny?(unless you're a complete dolt)

I liked it better when Ennis had something to say. Darrick Robinsons art is so heavy handed with the inking. I personally don't like his style. It doesn't even shrink down well to comic size(lines close up, cross hatching gets murky, amatuerish. The characters look ugly and stiff. Why is Ennis doing a retread of Vietchs BRATPACK, and WATCHMEN...badly I might add? Come on Garth do something original and be more selective with your choice of artist. Fans: check out Rick Vietch's BRATPACK and The MAXIMORTAL, waaay better reads and wickedly interesting.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Admit it, you probably either asked "Who's Sue Dibney?" or you had to think about it for a long minute when you started reading that story. It was the most overblown reaction to the death of a character nobody really gave a crap about.

That's not to say Sue Dibney wasn't awesome, mind you. I've read "Formerly Known As..." and "I Can't Believe It's Not..." and she was just great. She's just not a big deal. There are some superheroes whose deaths didn't get as much exposure as the Elongated Man's wife.

Yea, I did ask "Who is Sue Dibny?" but that didn't matter. The moment it was mentioned right away it was Elongated Man's wife, that's all I needed to know.

Well it was about the fact that it wasn't a hero who died, but their wife. Superheroes always worry about their friends and girlfriends but when you live with your wife and it is easier to protect them because they are your wife so they are much more attached to your life. Then with IC, you somehow still fail to protect them which makes it a whole other story. As it was clear, she lived in a home that had every kind of defense possible, and her husband was a superhero.

 

[MadVillainy]

TDKR. The premise behind it s great, but the execution is sub par. I mean Bruce Wayne dresses up like a bat and beats ppl to a pulp. He's always been a little crazy.
But he was a full blown psychotic in TDKR. He's happy that he broke someone's bones and it the whole time it was just really creepy to see what Bruce was doing

and the art was bad too

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Pretty much any modern X-book. Apart from maybe X-Factor.

I recently read Final Crisis and wasn't really that impressed with it either.

Anything Punisher other than the first few arcs by Ennis in MAX.

 

[Drz]

Pretty much any modern X-book. Apart from maybe X-Factor.

Have you read Morrison's New X-Men?