Competition in '08 for TIH

Shymalyan had captured a large audience from 6th sense. Signs did very well against XXX as well. After that though he pretty much ran out of ideas and got stupid. His trailers always tickle the mind but his latest movies don't follow through. The Hulk is a major "event" film surrounding by video games, toys, merchandise, mass market sponsors like food chains, supermarkets, etc...I don't you're gonna see kids fighting with "Happening Fists".
 
I really liked signs, but it had fantastic actors Gibson was increadibly convincing, as was the plot and script.

6th sense was good as well..but a little overhyped, I really didn't think it was....THAT INCREADIBLE

I liked Unbreakable more them signs to be honest with you...though it was a better movie

after those 3 though he fell apart

The Village compleatly fell apart, Lady in the Water...... Have not seen it.
 
great.. Shyamalan si a good director.. but I don't want this to compete with the Hulk on the same weekend.. push it up.. at least to the Wednesday before or after.. Please.. especially if filming doesn't start right away, they can afford to revise the release date..
 
Now "The Happening" with Mark Wahlberg directed by M.Knight is going up against The Hulk. This is good. It's a perceived threat that will fill up the spot and make the date appear more crowded than it really is. Marky Mark is a great actor but he's not a box office draw and M.Knight's gimmicky scripts are getting tired and the fans are not coming out like they used to. Still it should generate some attention but the Hulk will totally annihilate it on that date. The Happening should be a Winter release but that's it's problem. :) I was afraid a bigger film might try to move in on it...now that's highly unlikely.

We know nothing about The Happening yet. Its hard to say how its will be unless a trailer for both movies are seen.
 
great.. Shyamalan si a good director.. but I don't want this to compete with the Hulk on the same weekend.. push it up.. at least to the Wednesday before or after.. Please.. especially if filming doesn't start right away, they can afford to revise the release date..

If Hulk is any good then it won't have to worry about competition.
 
Hulk caters to a much larger demographic then an M.Knight end of the Earth clone.
 
I beleive that AD tends to overhype the Marvel films a bit too much, but for once I'm completely agreeing with him:

Hulk > M. Night
 
anything > M. Night...he lost alot of repect with his last two movies.
 
LOL, I've never seen such a group of paranoid people in all my LIFE!!

Calm down fella's, I think the studio's know what they're doing and how to handle all of this... HULK will hold his own, once there's a good trailer and people see how different it is from the first they'll go see it. Then once the movie is out word of mouth will take over and make TIH the MOST POWERFUL MOVIE IN THE UNIVERSE!!
 
I beleive that AD tends to overhype the Marvel films a bit too much, but for once I'm completely agreeing with him:

Hulk > M. Night

I don't "over" hype anything though I am "hyped" about every marvel project as it's production is announced. As things move along I might change my feelings like I did on several films including Blade Trinity, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, and X-Men (original). In this case though Marvel has the rights back, we got a real cool director, and Marvel, the director, and the producers all know exactly what went wrong the 1st time. Not what went wrong with the movie as a "film" but what went wrong with them not tapping into the characters potential to appeal to the size of an audience it should have. Just because it's not gonna be an artsy psycho-drama does not mean it's going to be fluff. There's some meat inbetween.
 
Summer '08 looking light on sequels

Fresh ideas, few sequels in store from studios

By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK




http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971570.html?categoryid=13&cs=1#talkback
Now that studios have mastered the idea of sequels and three-quels, here comes the rub: Next summer will be remarkably sequel-lite, meaning back to the drawing board all over again -- or to dusty libraries.

Another concern from this past summer -- an overcrowded marketplace -- could get even more serious, with a bevy of biggies scheduled to face off on the same weekend, such as "Speed Racer" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" in late May, and "Get Smart" and Mike Myers' "The Love Guru" later in June.
Most studio execs believe that films will shift dates to avoid these head-on collisions, but the point is clear that it's impossible to find a lot of breathing room for the films.
To get them through their busiest season, studios will bank plenty of comedy (including two from current golden boy Judd Apatow), stand-alone event films and revivals of long-dormant franchises, such as "Indiana Jones 4" and "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor."
There are only two pure sequels skedded at this point: Disney-Walden's "The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian," skedded for May 22, and Warner Bros.' Batman follow-up "The Dark Knight," set to unspool July 18.
It's not necessarily an unwelcome challenge.
"What you don't necessarily have is a monolith, suck-all-the-air-out-the-box-office sequel," says one marketing veteran. "At the same time, you can't watch the same three or four movies over and over again, summer after summer."
"This is where the fun starts," says Walt Disney prexy of production Chuck Viane. "It will be a unique summer in that it gives us all an opportunity to showcase new ideas. It shows off the ingenuity of the creative guys and the films, and how we market them."
It'll be the first summer in recent years when there wasn't an entry from "Spider-Man," "Pirates" or "Shrek" (or some combo of those). Sans the best-known franchises, will moviegoers still turn out to the degree they did this past summer? Critics may bash Hollywood for churning out one sequel after another, but the pics have built in brand awareness and the results are indisputable.
The upside: Summer 2008 will give studios a chance to birth new franchises, as well as resurrect once-lucrative properties.
"As it looks right now, the summer of '08 will have a lot more original programming than the summer of '07," says 20th Century Fox prexy of distribution Bruce Snyder.
The summer sesh kicks off May 2 with Marvel Studios' adaptation of comicbook "Iron Man," toplining Robert Downey Jr. and Gwyneth Paltrow. Pic will be distributed by Paramount.
Skedded to bow the next weekend are Warner Bros.' "Speed Racer," based on the 1960s Japanese animated TV skein and directed by the Wachowskis, and Fox's Keanu Reeves starrer "The Day the Earth Stood Still," director Scott Derrickson's remake of the sci-fi classic.
With the release calendar still in flux for next summer, it wouldn't be surprising if one of these two movies moved, although "Speed Racer" will be more of a family draw.
Several films are based on "well-known" properties, but the question is whether younger auds are even aware of the previous incarnations. They include "Speed Racer," "The Day the Earth Stood Still" and WB's feature adaptation of 1960s television comedy "Get Smart," starring Steve Carell and Anne Hathaway.
By the time Steven Spielberg's "Indy 4" opens on May 22, it will have been 19 years since Harrison Ford last appeared as the adventuring archaeologist. For Universal's "Mummy" franchise, it will have been eight years since the last release.
"Does a franchise have an expiration date? It's a valid issue," says one studio exec.
Summer 2007 proved that earlier hit properties can be brought back to life, considering the successful revivals of the "Die Hard" franchise at Fox and "Rush Hour" at New Line.
Marvel and Universal are again going to be doing some reimagining next summer when they try again with "The Incredible Hulk," this time starring Edward Norton and coming five years after Ang Lee's darker version of "Hulk" yielded only modest results. Pic, which takes a purely comicbook approach, is set to bow June 13, going up against M. Night Shyamalan's "The Happening," which Fox has presently slotted for that date.
Bringing another comicbook anti-hero to the bigscreen, Sony has set Will Smith-Charlize Theron starrer "Hancock" (previously titled "Tonight He Comes") for the July 4 frame.
The following weekend, New Line's family action-adventure "Journey 3-D," based on Jules Verne's "Journey to the Center of the Earth," is skedded to unspool. Other family titles include DreamWorks Animation's "Kung Fu Panda," which is set to bow June 6, and Disney-Pixar's "Wall-E," which opens June 27.
Comedy will be a main attraction of summer 2008, beginning with Sony's romantic laffer "Made of Honor," starring Patrick Dempsey, which opens against "Iron Man," and Fox's Eddie Murphy starrer "Starship Dave," skedded to unspool May 30. On June 20, Paramount's Myers starrer "The Love Guru" is set to go up against "Get Smart."
Other laffers include Sony's Adam Sandler starrer "You Don't Mess With the Zohan," set for release June 6; Fox's Cameron Diaz-Ashton Kutcher comedy "What Stays in Vegas ...," skedded to bow June 27; DreamWorks-Par's "Tropic Thunder," directed by and starring Ben Stiller, set for release July 11; and Will Ferrell-John C. Reilly starrer "Stepbrothers," which Sony has skedded to open July 25.
Apatow is producing two pics targeted for next summer, Universal's "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and Sony's "Pineapple Express."
The unusual concentration of franchise sequels bowing in summer 2007 was neither ideal nor avoidable.
"It is interesting that you would have one summer where there are six or seven and then the following summer, have only two. It is unique. Usually, you try to find a happy medium," Viane says.
Still, it could prove hard for the film biz to match the record-breaking domestic box office of summer 2007, which crossed the $4 billion mark for the first time and saw four titles cross the $300 million mark in a historic display of power: "Spider-Man 3," "Pirates of Caribbean: At World's End," "Shrek the Third" and robot actioner "Transformers."
"Transformers" was the only non-sequel.
Studios are quick to remind, however, that box office receipts don't equal profitability. "Fresh ideas," says a studio topper, "don't normally cost you as much to make."

Source: Variety
 
Erm, there are plenty of sequels out next yeat, plus they forgot to mention Hellboy 2.
 
I guess what they were trying to say is not a much as this year.

Anyway Hulk is gonna get bodied
 
Honestly, I think that TIH only has to worry about 'The Dark Knight' come 2008 as far as Box Office numbers are concerned. I want the Iron Man film to be good but I don't think it's going to beat either TIH or TDK at the Box Office.
 
As much as i like the look of Iron Man, i'm seeing this head the way GR went.
 
i think he didnt understand it cause you said "this" insted of "that", "this" made it sound like you were talking about TIH. I dont think IM would go GR way, I think IM could surprise alot of people. TIH, IMO, people should stop expecting it to make huge numbers, if TIH makes more than 140mill, i'll be very happy. Thats just domestic, add another 160 for OS and that would be great IMO.
 
i think he didnt understand it cause you said "this" insted of "that", "this" made it sound like you were talking about TIH. I dont think IM would go GR way, I think IM could surprise alot of people. TIH, IMO, people should stop expecting it to make huge numbers, if TIH makes more than 140mill, i'll be very happy. Thats just domestic, add another 160 for OS and that would be great IMO.

If that's the case then it's all good AD. :up: I'd like to think IM is gonna be good too, but with all the early clips we saw for GR ppl were amped..just like they are noe for IronMan. Downey's an awesome actor..but Cage is too. Then there's Paltrow; she's great. Eva Mendes is 'meh' on the acting side, so maybe the caliber ensemble that they have for IronMan will make the movie special, compared to the so-so actors they had for Ghost Rider;with the exception of Cage and Elliot.
 
i think he didnt understand it cause you said "this" insted of "that", "this" made it sound like you were talking about TIH. I dont think IM would go GR way, I think IM could surprise alot of people. TIH, IMO, people should stop expecting it to make huge numbers, if TIH makes more than 140mill, i'll be very happy. Thats just domestic, add another 160 for OS and that would be great IMO.

I agree, i dont expect TIH to make huge number, many people who didnt like the first movie will most likely not be compelled to see this new one, if it is good, WOM might help it a lot though.
 
I agree, i dont expect TIH to make huge number, many people who didnt like the first movie will most likely not be compelled to see this new one, if it is good, WOM might help it a lot though.

Just like Batman Begins.
 
If that's the case then it's all good AD. :up: I'd like to think IM is gonna be good too, but with all the early clips we saw for GR ppl were amped..just like they are noe for IronMan. Downey's an awesome actor..but Cage is too. Then there's Paltrow; she's great. Eva Mendes is 'meh' on the acting side, so maybe the caliber ensemble that they have for IronMan will make the movie special, compared to the so-so actors they had for Ghost Rider;with the exception of Cage and Elliot.
i think, the guy behind the camera is whats going to make the difference IMO, MSJ sucks ass, JF, he's good IMO and the guy knows how to write good, witty dialog. THe action seems fine but i'll wait till the trailer hits on monday to make up my mind.


I agree, i dont expect TIH to make huge number, many people who didnt like the first movie will most likely not be compelled to see this new one, if it is good, WOM might help it a lot though.
yeah, that true but i dont get it when AD and others say that TIH is a lock for making 180mill just based on the release date :huh: , i dont think TIH will make more than 60mill in ts opening weekend.
 
unfortuantly, the incredible hulk is a lock to dissappoint and probably bomb just bevcause of awefuly recieved the originasl was.

if this is good, itll have good legs, good dvd sales, and sequel will see big as increase. thats all we can hope for.

dont expect anything near 150 milion for this....im thinking....assuming its good as i like the director choice......30/135, around 280-300 imllion worldwide, good dvd sales, and then the sequel will see a 60-70 million opening weekend.
yea..but remember kids are still gonna be the main target when it comes to promoting...and regardless of what it did...hulk is still eye appealing to youngsters.....so that alone will make it do way better
 
I still think the Hulk is going to do the best or is going to, at the very least, fall second to TDK.
 

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