Constantine Season 1, Episode 3 "The Devil's Vinyl" General Discussion

[Sawyer]

http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/10/nbc-primetime-schedule-sunday-november.html

CONSTANTINE
"THE DEVIL'S VINYL"

11/07/2014 (10:00PM - 11:00PM) (Friday)
A DESPERATE WIFE MUST MAKE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO SAVE HER HUSBAND'S LIFE. MICHAEL JAMES SHAW GUEST STARS AS 'PAPA MIDNITE' -- John (Matt Ryan) and Zed (Angélica Celaya) engage in a dangerous confrontation to save a woman and her family from sinister forces. John's efforts force him to confront the darkness in his own life - while also coming face to face with a new powerful adversary in Papa Midnite (guest star Michael James Shaw). Harold Perrineau and Charles Halford also star.

 

[Jason Kane]

Promo pics!

 

[Jason Kane]

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19EkoZfrCfU[/YT]

 

[Jason Kane]

Papa Midnite himself:

 

[Jason Kane]

Ok, people! Let's get this one up to 4.5-4.9M tonight. We can't afford to lose this

 

[Jason Kane]

[YT]http://youtu.be/fJlLf0LbzVQ[/YT]

 

[Sawyer]

[YT]fJlLf0LbzVQ[/YT]

Fixed

 

[Mister J]

So, I'm thinking I need that jacket.

 

[Jason Kane]

Fixed

Cheers! I don't understand why it doesn't work when I put the link in

 

[Sawyer]

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"Reaper Man," the song in tonight's @NBCConstantine was co-written by the singer Martin Yarbrough, @MarkVerheiden, David S. Goyer & myself.

 

[Mister J]

Cheers! I don't understand why it doesn't work when I put the link in

Just use the portion code after the "v=" in the yt tags.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=346603

 

[Jason Kane]

Just use the portion code after the "v=" in the yt tags.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=346603

Ta very much

 

[rashad]

Is that Ava Crowder from Justified? There's been a few supporting actors from that show popping up on here.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

He always introduces himself by name as if the producers really want to remind us who he is. Did he have psychic paper in the comics?

 

[Jason Kane]

Now this is more like it!!! 9.5/10

Full review will be ready soon. Roll on Gary Lester and the Hunger Demon!

 

[Jason Kane]

He always introduces himself by name as if the producers really want to remind us who he is. Did he have psychic paper in the comics?

Nah. Most of the time his says who he is and everyone gullible takes his word for it (i.e. "Det. Inspector Constantine" circe Ennis and later Diggle)

 

[rashad]

This show gets better and better each week!

 

[Jason Kane]

Right. Who hear squealed at

Spoiler

Midnite holding the Ace of Winchester

?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

More people should be watching this. This show is just getting better and better as it goes on!

 

[Jason Kane]

REVIEW: http://greenandthesmoke.blogspot.com/2014/11/constantine-devils-vinyl-review.html

 

[The Question]

I had some problems with tonight's episode. First off, The Sex Pistols thing was kind of cool but also kind of lame. If Constantine grew up in Liverpool during the height of the punk scene, he should have thirty bands he rates higher than the Pistols. Also, I wasn't thrilled with Midnight's portrayal. He lacked that cautious reverence for the relics he handles that he has in the comics. Also, I don't see Midnight hanging out in an abandoned warehouse with gangbangers. He's more of a penthouses and Italian suits kind of guy.

 

[DigificWriter]

I mentioned in my comments on the Pilot that the show reminded me of "ANGEL mixed with a bit of Spawn, the Noble dead novel series by JC and Barb Hendee, and the Vampire Huntress Legend novel series by L.A. Banks", but tonight's episode brought the ANGEL influence to the forefront and stuck it there with cement.

Everything about this episode felt like it could've come straight out of the minds of Joss Whedon, David Greenwalt, Tim Minear, and the other ANGEL writers, and the characters, for the first time, lined up squarely with the ANGEL characters: Constantine is Angel (if Angel were fully human, that is), Zed is Cordelia, Chaz is Wesley, Manny is Lorne/Doyle/the Oracles, and Papa Midnite is Lindsey.

Story-wise, I loved the whole "devil's vinyl" plot, and kind of wish Constantine hadn't destroyed the bloody thing, because I think there's a lot more stories to be told using it as a 'macguffin'. I also really liked the way the episode explored the whole concept of a blues musician selling his soul to the devil in order to become successful, but do wish the writers had 'fictionalized' the real-life legend surrounding Robert Johnson rather than creating their own fictional blues musician character. I also liked finding out a bit more about Constantine's past.

The only thing I was confused about was the episode's ending. What was up with that girl with the cross and Papa Midnite burning that voodoo doll?

I'd also like to know why NBC didn't give us a specific preview for next week's episode.

 

[Jason Kane]

I mentioned in my comments on the Pilot that the show reminded me of "ANGEL mixed with a bit of Spawn, the Noble dead novel series by JC and Barb Hendee, and the Vampire Huntress Legend novel series by L.A. Banks", but tonight's episode brought the ANGEL influence to the forefront and stuck it there with cement.

Everything about this episode felt like it could've come straight out of the minds of Joss Whedon, David Greenwalt, Tim Minear, and the other ANGEL writers, and the characters, for the first time, lined up squarely with the ANGEL characters: Constantine is Angel (if Angel were fully human, that is), Zed is Cordelia, Chaz is Wesley, Manny is Lorne/Doyle/the Oracles, and Papa Midnite is Lindsey.

Story-wise, I loved the whole "devil's vinyl" plot, and kind of wish Constantine hadn't destroyed the bloody thing, because I think there's a lot more stories to be told using it as a 'macguffin'. I also really liked the way the episode explored the whole concept of a blues musician selling his soul to the devil in order to become successful, but do wish the writers had 'fictionalized' the real-life legend surrounding Robert Johnson rather than creating their own fictional blues musician character. I also liked finding out a bit more about Constantine's past.

The only thing I was confused about was the episode's ending. What was up with that girl with the cross and Papa Midnite burning that voodoo doll?

I'd also like to know why NBC didn't give us a specific preview for next week's episode.

The cross ties into

Spoiler

The Resurrection Crusade she's on the run from

For the record, who the hell would imagine David Boreanez learning a new spell the way John did knowing it'd be laughable and cringeworthy (nevermind the occasional Irish accent!) for him while it wasn't for Ryan?

 

[DigificWriter]

^ You're going to have to go further than that to answer my question, because I still have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[The Question]

I mentioned in my comments on the Pilot that the show reminded me of "ANGEL mixed with a bit of Spawn, the Noble dead novel series by JC and Barb Hendee, and the Vampire Huntress Legend novel series by L.A. Banks", but tonight's episode brought the ANGEL influence to the forefront and stuck it there with cement.

Everything about this episode felt like it could've come straight out of the minds of Joss Whedon, David Greenwalt, Tim Minear, and the other ANGEL writers, and the characters, for the first time, lined up squarely with the ANGEL characters: Constantine is Angel (if Angel were fully human, that is), Zed is Cordelia, Chaz is Wesley, Manny is Lorne/Doyle/the Oracles, and Papa Midnite is Lindsey.

Story-wise, I loved the whole "devil's vinyl" plot, and kind of wish Constantine hadn't destroyed the bloody thing, because I think there's a lot more stories to be told using it as a 'macguffin'. I also really liked the way the episode explored the whole concept of a blues musician selling his soul to the devil in order to become successful, but do wish the writers had 'fictionalized' the real-life legend surrounding Robert Johnson rather than creating their own fictional blues musician character. I also liked finding out a bit more about Constantine's past.

The only thing I was confused about was the episode's ending. What was up with that girl with the cross and Papa Midnite burning that voodoo doll?

I'd also like to know why NBC didn't give us a specific preview for next week's episode.

I can't speak for the cross, but the doll was Midnight burning Constantine's image in effigy, either simply as catharsis or to maybe try and send a curse his way.

Honestly as for what the show feels like, I get a vibe of "Supernatural with a de-powered Spike as the main character and a snarkier Castiel showing up in season one."