Contest Of Marvels (Thread 1)

Come on guys, I made a harmless remark to ensure he knew the rules...I think more people voting would be great as long as they take the time to consider the debates....
 
The reason to be worried, Brodie, is because there are two heavy hitters that both characters are hoping will be going into the final rounds. We generally only get the contestants voting...but, we'd love to have everyone who wanted to cast a vote. But, most who have tried don't understand the contest; so, they don't bother. Now, since Powder would be ahead by one crucial vote without your vote...there is a worry that possibly the one week you vote might actually effect his character. If a person gets tied or a character knocked out of the tourney based on your vote, that would be a real pain...considering you haven't voted for a while...but, more so if you don't vote again.

Now, Powder doesn't mind you voting. He just wanted to make sure you understand the contest. We want your vote, and especially if you vote each week. That's all. (But, you have to see where he's coming from. To possibly lose a hard fought battle by having you re-appear at this point would be a pain in the butt.)
 
Phaedrus45 said:
The reason to be worried, Brodie, is because there are two heavy hitters that both characters are hoping will be going into the final rounds. We generally only get the contestants voting...but, we'd love to have everyone who wanted to cast a vote. But, most who have tried don't understand the contest; so, they don't bother. Now, since Powder would be ahead by one crucial vote without your vote...there is a worry that possibly the one week you vote might actually effect his character. If a person gets tied or a character knocked out of the tourney based on your vote, that would be a real pain...considering you haven't voted for a while...but, more so if you don't vote again.

Now, Powder doesn't mind you voting. He just wanted to make sure you understand the contest. We want your vote, and especially if you vote each week. That's all. (But, you have to see where he's coming from. To possibly lose a hard fought battle by having you re-appear at this point would be a pain in the butt.)

Well said...:up:
 
POWdER-man said:
Aww, but when you say shields and Forcefields and such, would he have them on just to smack a cripple....that would seem like overkill...:D
Of course he'd have them. He's Thanos. He never goes into a fight unprepared.



And as I said, there's nothing Xavier could do to take him out. Nothing.

Telepathy? Thanos is immune. Even Moondragon with the Mind Gem could not get through his defenses. Xavier's not getting through even with Cerebro and other power boosts backing him up if the Heather (an Xavier level telepath whether you wish to admit it or not) with the Mind Gem backing her, making her the telepathic power in the univerese, could not.

The explosion? Thanos has survived planet killing level stuff before. Including actually surviving an exploding planet with no harm whatsoever. He's taken blasts from beings such as Omega and a Beyonder and survived. There's nothing Xavier could get within 24 hours that could even knock the Titan out.

Add in the fact that Thanos is in the top tier of physical strength, an A-grade cosmic energy manipulator, is a scientific genius on Richard's level at the least, is one of the greatest strategic genius' in the entire MU, has total control of his body's molecular structure (he is an Eternal), can transmute matter (another forgotten and underused ability), is a mystic, is a top tier hand to hand fighter (he did personally train Gamora) and Xavier does not stand a chance.









And my votes are...

Thanos
Kang
Beta Ray Bill
Proctor
 
Proctor vs New Son

Same strategy, different tactics.


So, during prep-time, Proctor does as much research as he can on New Son and finds...nothing. This does not suit well with Dane. So he's going to be extra cautious when the battle appears.

When it's time for battle, Proctor arrives on the planet and sees...rioting aliens, his enemy 100 feet away, and Galactus the World Devourer having at the planet. It's time for swear words and a quick teleportation to put some distance between him and his opponent (and the 80-foot tall planet eater).

With no information on New Son, Proctor decides to get some. Taking over the aliens minds (who should be quite susceptible even to weak telepathic control since rational thought is not currently on their minds), he sends a wave at them after New Son. Once he sees a few of them spontaneously glow and explode, Dave will figure that it's best not to tackle New Son head on.

So, he settles for a quick behind-the-back, teleporting sneak attack. (Some may call that cowardly, but Proctor will kill them later.) By the time New Son realizes his opponent is behind him, the Ebony Blade has already been driven through his back and out his chest. Proctor blasts New Son with energy in the hopes it will hurt him even more.

It does. And it backfires as New Son begins to crackle with overload and pulse with energy. A few more choice curses, and Dane teleports to safety. Well, what he thinks is safe until New Sun explodes and Proctor sees the energy coming at him. Another swear escapes his lips as he closes his eyes...and is teleported away for the next round. (And Galactus is upset because the planet he was feeding on is now gone. How annoying.)

Proctor wins
 
Is Proctor that powerful a telepath? I was always under the impression that he was very low level.
 
Johnny Blaze said:
Of course he'd have them. He's Thanos. He never goes into a fight unprepared.

Yeah but after he sees that his opponent is a feeble old parapelegic cripple he won't worry about using them. I mean IF Xavier's telepathy does not work against Thanos he will realize that it is his only power so why would he bother. He has fought extremely more physically stronger characters without using a forcefield so why would he use it against someone who can't even walk....

Thanos' superiority complex will more than likely hinder his better judgement and he will let his guard down. I mean really, what would Thanos expect from a cripple?

Telepathy? Thanos is immune. Even Moondragon with the Mind Gem could not get through his defenses. Xavier's not getting through even with Cerebro and other power boosts backing him up if the Heather (an Xavier level telepath whether you wish to admit it or not) with the Mind Gem backing her, making her the telepathic power in the univerese, could not.

Nobody is immune completely. Sure he met Moondragon and what I have seen she is below Shadowking, Dark Phoenix and Professor X in psionic powers who all three are listed as having monstrous telepathy. And this is WITHOUT Xavier having cerebro or other telepathy enhancing equipment.

BTW:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6933928&postcount=521

Umm, you even stated yourself previously that the Gem doesn't boost her powers (at least much) and that it just makes it broader.

So really the voters have to consider that Xavier is more powerful than Moodragon, and this is prior to even using cerebro which really boosts his powers.

The explosion? Thanos has survived planet killing level stuff before. Including actually surviving an exploding planet with no harm whatsoever. He's taken blasts from beings such as Omega and a Beyonder and survived. There's nothing Xavier could get within 24 hours that could even knock the Titan out.

Well, if Xavier's telepathy works on him it wouldn't matter but if it doesn't then Thanos will realize this and realize that X is no threat to him. If he is no threat than why would Thanos bother putting up his forceshields when he hasn't against physically stronger beings. The explosive will be a surprise strategy, and Thanos would never think in a million years that Xavier would vaporize himself as well as him so that he could win the match.

That's the key, surprise. Thanos wouldn't expect a Kamakazee ploy by his opponent to annihilate both bodies. Especially from a feeble old cripple.

Add in the fact that Thanos is in the top tier of physical strength, an A-grade cosmic energy manipulator, is a scientific genius on Richard's level at the least, is one of the greatest strategic genius' in the entire MU, has total control of his body's molecular structure (he is an Eternal), can transmute matter (another forgotten and underused ability), is a mystic, is a top tier hand to hand fighter (he did personally train Gamora) and Xavier does not stand a chance.


As for being physically stronger, well if they were going to do an arm wrestling competition I could see why that would matter. He is highly intelligent and a great strategist but they aren't going to war, it's two men on either side on the ring. Plus no one could predict that Xavier would set off a nuclear explosion to kill both him and Thanos. Plus I highly doubt that Xavier will be engaging Thanos in a fist fight...:D

If Xavier's telepathy works than Thanos is beat, if it doesn't than Xavier has no power ability to fight against Thanos. Thanos will look at this crippled old man in a hovercraft and probably laugh his head off. Between Xavier and all his previous matches Thanos probably thinks this tournament is a joke. He will smugly walk up to Xavier and stand tall above his opponent. He decides to finish this quickly as it's wasting his precious time. He pulls a mighty fist high in the air and smashes down with full force that drives Xavier's body flat onto the ground and immediately setting off the nuclear explosive. Thanos would not have time to react to the explosion and all he could maybe mutter would be "Aw SHi........." as the explosion vaporizes everything within the vicinity. Plus with something that powerful going off next to Galactus would rudely interrupt his meal. The explosion would be strong enough that he would take notice and move to investigate what defences are mounting on this planet. If thanos is not immediately killed in the explosion, Galactus will spot him in a heartbeat and will think he is attempting to attack him. If Thanos didn't suffer a massive explosion he would be a match for Galactus but since Thanos is nearly incapicitated, he would be no match for Galactus. Meanwhile Xavier had left well before this explosion, in his astral form, and is far enough to still hear the loud explosion and see the flash and smoke. He knows what he did was for the greater good and he will than fsoar back home to communicate to Jean and decide what to do next (since Jean was alive in this tournament;)).

WINNER THE UNDERDOG, XAVIER
 
JewishHobbit said:
Is Proctor that powerful a telepath? I was always under the impression that he was very low level.

Even low level could influence a few people. Maybe make them think that it's New Son's fault Galactus is here, and if they take him out Galactus will leave.
 
POWdER-man said:
Yeah but after he sees that his opponent is a feeble old parapelegic cripple he won't worry about using them. I mean IF Xavier's telepathy does not work against Thanos he will realize that it is his only power so why would he bother. He has fought extremely more physically stronger characters without using a forcefield so why would he use it against someone who can't even walk....

Thanos' superiority complex will more than likely hinder his better judgement and he will let his guard down. I mean really, what would Thanos expect from a cripple?

Since Thanos know's all about Xavier and is not one to get cocky and arogant like that in this situation, no I don't think that at all.



Nobody is immune completely. Sure he met Moondragon and what I have seen she is below Shadowking, Dark Phoenix and Professor X in psionic powers who all three are listed as having monstrous telepathy. And this is WITHOUT Xavier having cerebro or other telepathy enhancing equipment.

BTW:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6933928&postcount=521

Umm, you even stated yourself previously that the Gem doesn't boost her powers (at least much) and that it just makes it broader.

So really the voters have to consider that Xavier is more powerful than Moodragon, and this is prior to even using cerebro which really boosts his powers.

Actually, I'm glad you brought that up (that the gem does not enhance power). It makes Moondragon rendering Xavier catatonic, psychically, prove that she is at least on his level. Don't believe me? Read Infinity Crusade. :D

Well, if Xavier's telepathy works on him it wouldn't matter but if it doesn't then Thanos will realize this and realize that X is no threat to him. If he is no threat than why would Thanos bother putting up his forceshields when he hasn't against physically stronger beings. The explosive will be a surprise strategy, and Thanos would never think in a million years that Xavier would vaporize himself as well as him so that he could win the match.

You don't read too much Thanos I see. The point is, he's Thanos. He's always prepared for every eventuality going into a known fight. Whether it'd be with Tyrant, Galactus, Dr. Doom, or Xavier.

That's the key, surprise. Thanos wouldn't expect a Kamakazee ploy by his opponent to annihilate both bodies. Especially from a feeble old cripple.

It's not whether he'd be surprised by the attack or not. It wouldn't kill him or even put him down, shields or no. I've already mentioned attacks that's he's survived, with and without shields, that's proven that he'd be able to survive an attack of any magnatude that Xavier could muster within 24 hours.


As for being physically stronger, well if they were going to do an arm wrestling competition I could see why that would matter. He is highly intelligent and a great strategist but they aren't going to war, it's two men on either side on the ring. Plus no one could predict that Xavier would set off a nuclear explosion to kill both him and Thanos. Plus I highly doubt that Xavier will be engaging Thanos in battle...:D

If Xavier's telepathy works than Thanos is beat, if it doesn't than Xavier has no power ability to fight against Thanos. Thanos will look at this crippled old man in a hovercraft and probably laugh his head off. Between Xavier and all his previous matches Thanos probably thinks this tournament is a joke. He will smugly walk up to Xavier and stand tall above his opponent. He decides to finish this quickly as it's wasting his precious time. He pulls a mighty fist high in the air and smashes down with full force that drives Xavier's body flat onto the ground and immediately setting off the nuclear explosive.

Thanos would laugh off a nuclear blast in his worst incarnation. And that's before his resurrection when he was still casually batting around Thor and the Thing at the same time.

Thanos would not have time to react to the explosion and all he could maybe mutter would be "Aw SHi........." as the explosion vaporizes everything within the vicinity. Plus with something that powerful going off next to Galactus would rudely interrupt his meal. The explosion would be strong enough that he would take notice and move to investigate what defences are mounting on this planet. If thanos is not immediately killed in the explosion, Galactus will spot him in a heartbeat and will think he is attempting to attack him. If Thanos didn't suffer a massive explosion he would be a match for Galactus but since Thanos is nearly incapicitated, he would be no match for Galactus. Meanwhile Xavier had left well before this explosion, in his astral form, and is far enough to still hear the loud explosion and see the flash and smoke. He knows what he did was for the greater good and he will than fsoar back home to communicate to Jean and decide what to do next (since Jean was alive in this tournament;)).

WINNER THE UNDERDOG, XAVIER
Galactus would not think that Thanos is trying to attack him. That's the biggest stretch I've heard in this thing. :rolleyes:
Galactus would know that it would not be an attempt on his life by the Titan. He knows Thanos well enough that any attack by him on his person would not be so mundane and usless as a nuclear explosion.

Yes, Thanos is immune to telepathy, and, yes, he could eat an nuclear blast for breakfast. There's nothing Xavier could do to him to hurt him. Nothing. To think otherwise is ludicrous.
 
Thanos does know Xavier and vice versa. That completely reassures my point. Thanos "knows" that the only thing going for Xavier is his telepathy. He doesn't have superhuman strength, he doesn't have cosmic powers, he doesn't have anything but his telepathic powers. So if his telepathic powers are proven useless than he won't have to worry about anything else.

RE: Moondragon incapicatating Xavier(actually he wasn't paralized he was knocked out)
Well in that instant Xavier wasn't even engaging Moondragon in a fight. He was just trying to communicate to her and she sent a mental blast that caught him off guard. It doesn't mean her telepathy was stronger it just shows that she was able to blast him when he wasn't expecting it since he was only trying to find out information from her.

Later in that series Thanos attempted to tap into Xavier's power to defeat the Goddess. Why might you ask, because he knows how powerful of a telepath Xavier he is. At the end, Xavier, with the combined assistance of Adam Warlock and Thanos were capable of beaten the Goddess.

Yeah I have read some Thanos, unfortunately a lot of it involved his obsession with Death and some reflection on his past deeds..

Again my point is that he will probably come prepared for a mental battle, but he won't expect a physical attack from the likes of Xavier who is all about mental power. He would be convinced that his physical prowess alone would be enough to fend off anything that feeble old crippled could muster.

I still think a direct nuclear explosive from an advanced species who is capable of annihilating a whole planet would certainly be effective against Thanos.

WINNER XAVIER


BTW, anyone who might be scared to vote to break the tie should feel free to vote. I am please with this outcome. Of course I would like to see Xavier dethrone the mightiest combatant in this competition, I would still respect it if he ends up losing. At least he gave Thanos a scare....:D

And Blaze, it's always a pleasure...;)
 
Updated Results:

Xavier 5-5 tie with Thanos
Kang 8-2 over Captain Britain-Braddock
Tri-Sentinel 7-3 over Beta Ray Bill
Proctor 6-4 over New Son
 
POWdER-man said:
Thanos does know Xavier and vice versa. That completely reassures my point. Thanos "knows" that the only thing going for Xavier is his telepathy. He doesn't have superhuman strength, he doesn't have cosmic powers, he doesn't have anything but his telepathic powers. So if his telepathic powers are proven useless than he won't have to worry about anything else.

Yes, but he also wouldn't be a fool. He may not have three shields like he had on when he faced Omega, but he'd damn sure have at least one of his personal force fields on him. He pretty much always does. Hell, with Galactus ravaging the world he'd probably come with more than one.

RE: Moondragon incapicatating Xavier(actually he wasn't paralized he was knocked out)
Well in that instant Xavier wasn't even engaging Moondragon in a fight. He was just trying to communicate to her and she sent a mental blast that caught him off guard. It doesn't mean her telepathy was stronger it just shows that she was able to blast him when he wasn't expecting it since he was only trying to find out information from her.

It wasn't some suprise attack out of nowhere. Xavier knew that the convo could spiral down the tube, so to speak (if he didn't he's a moron). I'm sure he had psychic defenses up like he always does. It's like Thanos and his shields. He pretty much always has psychic defenses up.
Moondragon's is on his level whether you choose to except it or not. She's taken control of an entire world's population with her mental powers before. I'd say a feat like that puts right up there with Xavier.


Later in that series Thanos attempted to tap into Xavier's power to defeat the Goddess. Why might you ask, because he knows how powerful of a telepath Xavier he is. At the end, Xavier, with the combined assistance of Adam Warlock and Thanos were capable of beaten the Goddess.


Yeah I have read some Thanos, unfortunately a lot of it involved his obsession with Death and some reflection on his past deeds..

You're missing out on some good Thanos reading. :(
Read the Cosmic Powers mini for his fight with Tyrant. And, if you can find it, the Blood & Thunder crossover where he casually stalemates a warrior madness afflicted Thor WITH the Power Gem. This is after Thor's kicked the living crap out of the Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, and the entire Watch combined. The first arc of his last series was damn good too. :up:


Again my point is that he will probably come prepared for a mental battle, but he won't expect a physical attack from the likes of Xavier who is all about mental power. He would be convinced that his physical prowess alone would be enough to fend off anything that feeble old crippled could muster.

I still think a direct nuclear explosive from an advanced species who is capable of annihilating a whole planet would certainly be effective against Thanos.

You need to read more Thanos. He's survived an exploding planet before with no harm done at all (gas giant at point blank). He's taken blasts from beings that would make a nuke look like a stick of TNT (Tyrant and Omega for examples). He's more than capable of surviving anything Xavier could get within 24 hours.

WINNER XAVIER


BTW, anyone who might be scared to vote to break the tie should feel free to vote. I am please with this outcome. Of course I would like to see Xavier dethrone the mightiest combatant in this competition, I would still respect it if he ends up losing. At least he gave Thanos a scare....:D

And Blaze, it's always a pleasure...;)
You too. No offense to anyone else, but you're definitely the most enjoyable one to go up against. :D :up:
 
WOW the hype is acting weird. It says Blaze posted but his post isn't here inside the thread....creepy....
 
POWdER-man said:
WOW the hype is acting weird. It says Blaze posted but his post isn't here inside the thread....creepy....
It was doing that for me yesterday in the DC RPG. :o
Even today the Hypes been acting up. I've got a DSL and it still took forever and a day for it to load some pages. Sometimes all I'll get are "database errors" and the like. Other times it won't load at all, even after I try a dozen or so times.
It's funny too since every other site I visit works fine. :o


*sigh* I guess those are the prices of being a Hypehead. Gotta take the good with the bad. :(
 
Yeah, yesterday it was deleting and then reinserting some of my posts. Apparently they are going to do something to fix how crappy the site has been running lately...but it'll probably take a little while
 
WOLVERINE25TH said:
Wow, Tri's doin' a lot better than I thought he would.

I'm glad too, I love the character. My very first comic was Web of Spiderman 81,... which has nothing to do with Tri-Sentinel.... but my second comic was Amazing Spiderman 351, and because the Tri-Sentinel was in the second comic I ever read, he's had a special place in my heart.
 
I remember getting Origin of Marvel Comics around 1974-75, one of my first looks into all of those characters. I thought it was the greatest book ever released:



In that issue was a reprint of a classic Iron Man story from Tales Of Suspense:



From that moment on, I loved that villian, Whiplash. Especially considering that they only reprinted that single issue, which ended in a cliffhanger. For 10 years, I never got to find out how Iron Man got out of that predicament. Finally, reading through a comic...probably Micronauts or Rom, I noticed a comic store ad that listed a place called O'Leary's in Tacoma, WA. I still remember walking into that place with all of these old comics that I'd been dying to get my hands on. It was like finding gold.
 
Man that's a question.....I don't know if you consider Archie Comics as actual comics, but that's what I read to learn how to read. I was about 4-5. The hell I know which one though.

As for actual comics......I know it was Spider-man for sure.......probably around 1990.....I can't think of what it might be.....I will have go through my old comics...
 
My first Captain America comic:



Interesting thing is that I disliked Captain America later on when I started to collect, because The Falcon wasn't included. Also, I just started re-reading these comics, and the letters page was so good back then. Back with issue 205, Marvel was getting a lot of letters saying that Jack Kirby needed to quit Captain America, that he was spread too thin doing Eternals, 2001, Captain America, and Black Panther. I thought his Captain America books might be the pinacle of Cap's books. But, they sure were up in arms back then, and Marvel even printed those letters against the book in their comic.

My first Spidey comic I remember owning:



I never realized that I bought a first issue of this when it came out...but, when I started collecting comics, I noticed. Too bad I didn't keep it in good condition. I must have read it about 100 times.

My first X-Men comic:



I was hooked. Then, I got very peeved when I opened issue 151 and Kitty was being kicked out of the X-Men. (I didn't realize this was just a ruze by the writers...but, I was up in arms at the time.)

My first Avengers comic:



Yeah, Taskmaster blew me away. Great story. I was hooked.
 
I love this conversation, but lets move it over to the Discussion thread (where I'll post my firsts :))
 
lol....yeah, after I posted that, I realized I wasn't talking in the discussion thread.
 

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