The Amazing Spider-Man Could SM4 Be the End

[NewYorkSpider]

Peter crying at the break-up scene was a bit too much for me.

I was hoping for a more shocked expression from Peter.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Peter crying at the break-up scene was a bit too much for me.

im ready to get bashed for this, but i'd be crying too if kirsten dumped me outta the blue.

 

[LightningFlash]

im ready to get bashed for this, but i'd be crying too if kirsten dumped me outta the blue.

Then, much like Harry was behind the tree, I would be behind the tree, and laughing for these two reasons:

that you actually dated her...which...isn't the greatest of great accomplishments, haha..

and that you're crying because Kirsten Dunst dumped you.

And then I will stop laughing to ponder which of the two is the worst.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Peter crying at the break-up scene was a bit too much for me.

People cry, get over it. Don't make out you've never done it.

I don't think Spider-man 4 will be bad. I think Raimi and co learnt their lesson from Spider-man 3. It wasn't like Spider-man 3 was that bad. It just wasn't very good.

 

[zeptron]

I could understand why he was crying. It was just like other people said a bit too over dramatic.

 

[Crook]

When I say over-dramatic I mean like yelling and falling to your knees and screaming the name of the person who died etc.

In context, was it really overdramatic? The term implies unnecessary emotional reaction. While shouting, crying, name-repetition and all that are "showy" by nature, it's perfectly within line in the wake of a tragedy.

Ever seen people COMPLETELY break down when they see a loved one, lying dead right in front of them? It's really not that much different, if at all.

Again, the failure is emotional attachment from the audience. We shouldn't be laughing nor thinking it was overdramatic in scenes such as that. But in terms of concept, I thought it was fine.

And I prefer the "Hollywood" crying for a movie anyways. Just some tears works...but a crunched-up face and everything...no, it doesn't work for me, hah.

Guess it's personal taste. Even in movies, I prefer showing real actions instead of the glorified stuff. Crying is the second worst offense in Hollywood, because it's close to nothing like how people react. Cuts/Bruises might be the worst though. I always laugh at how they're always conveniently placed on the actor to either make them look really cool (the notorious cut on the eye, with blood streaming down the side), or there's no damage to the face. Gotta keep the actors pretty.

 

[zeptron]

In context, was it really overdramatic? The term implies unnecessary emotional reaction. While shouting, crying, name-repetition and all that are "showy" by nature, it's perfectly within line in the wake of a tragedy.

Ever seen people COMPLETELY break down when they see a loved one, lying dead right in front of them? It's really not that much different, if at all.

Again, the failure is emotional attachment from the audience. We shouldn't be laughing nor thinking it was overdramatic in scenes such as that. But in terms of concept, I thought it was fine.

This I agree with. I mean his best friend was just killed. How would you react in a situation like that?

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Then, much like Harry was behind the tree, I would be behind the tree, and laughing for these two reasons:

that you actually dated her...which...isn't the greatest of great accomplishments, haha..

and that you're crying because Kirsten Dunst dumped you.

And then I will stop laughing to ponder which of the two is the worst.

even though youre makin fun of me...i still got some laughs out of that haha

 

[Immortalfire]

Then, much like Harry was behind the tree, I would be behind the tree, and laughing for these two reasons:

that you actually dated her...which...isn't the greatest of great accomplishments, haha..

and that you're crying because Kirsten Dunst dumped you.

And then I will stop laughing to ponder which of the two is the worst.

LoL t:

 

[zeptron]

^Off topic. Who's that in your avatar?

 

[webhead731]

In context, was it really overdramatic? The term implies unnecessary emotional reaction. While shouting, crying, name-repetition and all that are "showy" by nature, it's perfectly within line in the wake of a tragedy.

Ever seen people COMPLETELY break down when they see a loved one, lying dead right in front of them? It's really not that much different, if at all.

No I mean BAD acting over dramatic. When it's not believable.

To me, any crying in Spider-Man 3 was something I felt for when they did it.

 

[DACrowe]

Here come the crazies that think SM3 was great. SM3 wasn't a total bomb but when compared to SM1 and SM2...yes it totally sucked. It is cheesy and contrived with bad acting, a stupid plot, 4 characters fighting for screen time with little to no development, and really convenient...the meteor lands right next to Peter The little kids in this movie are terrible...terrible. Harry's amnesia is about the stupidest plot device in existance. Bernard the butler was stupid, Mary Jane was whiny and lame, and of course Eddie Brock/Venom was a total let down. If SM4 is any way near that again...this franchise will fail.

X3 was better than this and that says a lot There were some bright spots but the glaring black holes sucked them in. I think SM3 could have been great and on par with the rest of the franchise if Venom were left out. Because he wasn't, Sandman and Venom both failed and THC barely got any screen time...it was a mess.

And nobody is comparing SM3 to a single movie like Batman and Robin, they are comparing the Spider-Man franchise with the old Batman franchise. A great origin movie at its time, a better, bigger sequel, and then a bad third movie that leads on to an even worse fourth movie. So yeah, I would say I am scared for this franchise as well and those concerns from others are not unfounded.

I was actually seeing your POV for a while until you said that. Anything bad about SM3 applies triple-fold to the film abortion known as X-Men: The Last Stand.

In any case, SM3 is not a very good movie, nor is it the terrible movie obsessive fanboys make it out to be. It is a very middle-of-the-road okay/mediocre movie that I could see some liking and some not. But the intense passion both sides display is just too much.

And I honestly do think Sam Raimi someone who does learn from his mistakes. He took a year off from making movies and then he did a small horror/comedy that I'm sure will clear his head out and get him away from the webs and goblins for a while. I do think he sees SM3's inherent problems and will come back to the fourth with a sense of trying to improve. So no, I do not think it will be B&R or Superman IV.

However, I will say that it may be the last because Raimi and Maguire are probably getting tired of the genre, Tobey is getting too old and Kirsten has been phoning it in since the second movie (though she should come back).

This probably will be the last one, because the series is showing its age. And if we do four films with the same actors, then yes the audiences will not give a crap about SM5 with someone else. This is probably the last Spider-Man movie for a long time (I'm sure Marvel will reboot in 10-15 years), so enjoy it and hopefully it will turn out more like SM2 and less like SM3.

 

[DACrowe]

P.S. And as bad (or in my mind, mediocre) as SM3 is, it still is a better film than most of the tripe that gets shoveled at us every summer. While I'm thankful we got Iron Man and TDK last summer, IJIV had SM3 syndrome and we also had Hancock, Wanted and TIH that summer and Transformers, POTC3, Shrek 3 and other tripe like that the summer before.

 

[venom892]

I thought Incredible hulk was better then Spider-man 3.I would certainly rank it higher on a comic book films list.About the crying I don't mind crying when a scene calls for it but the crying on the bridge was WAY too much.As someone said it wasn't believable.Here is a little parody that kinda explains how I feel about Spider-man 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJfY5IqgcOY

 

[FaT_tONle]

I wouldn't rule out Sony recasting the characters and bringing in a new director in a sequel to SM4 as soon as 2013 or 2014. Just like Kilmer and Clooney filled in... I could see them doing the same for SM5 and possibly SM6... probably visa versa the old Batman films... with the new set of films being more darker and brooding than the originals. I'd have prefered they just did 4/5 back to back as was originally reported... even if it meant a beyond crappy SM5.

 

[LightningFlash]

even though youre makin fun of me...i still got some laughs out of that haha

LoL t:

Thank you, thank you, haha.

 

[weezerspider]

Where have you been? All three films are cheesy.

You've got me on that one, but 3 was a little more over the top with it. Kinda like the first steps in to B&R territory.

I'd say give Raimi one last chance and if 4 isn't on par with the first 2, get rid of him. He has made some good films, but he has made mistakes in all of the films. The biggest one would be making a Peter Parker series instead of a Spiderman. Yes, I realize Spiderman is one of the few superheroe stories which focuses more on the life behind the mask, but the bulk of Spiderman is still SPIDERMAN! Raimi got Peter Parker down good in 1 and perfected it in 2. Its time he keeps that in a film, but is also able to perfect his other identity, Spiderman.

 

[Immortalfire]

^Off topic. Who's that in your avatar?

Daisy Fuentes.

 

[Reikowolf]

Peter parker is a cryer

He cried when uncle ben died
he cried when gwen stacey died
he cried when he saw uncle ben's ghost
he cried when aunt may died (before reboot)
im pretty sure doc ock made him cry during their first encounter

i think people forget how even though he has all these powers, he still has the self esteem of the kid who was picked on in highschool

granted these are all deaths that made him cry but he's a pretty emotional guy

 

[Hectorminator]

Don't forget Captain America.

That one took a toll on ol' Petey.







But I almost cried myself on that one. =(

 

[Immortalfire]

Ursula: Sorry Pete, I'm out of chocolate cake.
Peter:

 

[Reikowolf]

Mr. Aziz: You're fired
Peter:

 

[LightningFlash]

MJ: You don't have testicles anymore Peter.
Peter:

*Enter Dr. Manhattan*

Dr. Manhattan: I'm sorry kid...I guess having no testicles only works for a guy like me.
Peter:
Dr. Manhattan: So, MJ...have you ever danced with a man with a pale blue penis?

 

[Reikowolf]

SM1. After the attack at times square.

Harry: Don't let the bed bugs.... bite
*slick*
Harry: What was that thing?
Peter:I... Don-n't kn-kn-know...b-b-b-but somebody's g-g-got to st-st-op it

 

[Spider-Fan]

I highly doubt SM4 is going to be a downgrade in quality. Yes, the series didn't pass the 3rd film hurdle, but it still made the best 3rd comic film ever to date. The last film suffered from Raimi not having enough control, and if Raimi is going to have control this time, then I think it can only really be better. SM1 or SM2 good? Who knows. But I expect an upgrade.