Cutting Away The Filler Of The Heroes Cast

[The Cajun]

If NBC came up to you tomorrow and basicly said - 'look we want to start over in season 4. We wanna introduce new scenarios and a few new characters but first we want to cut down on the current cast. Only keep the characters you feel are absolutly vital to the series and will fit in with a new direction and have room for development'.

If you ask me literally the only two characters I would keep would be Peter Petrelli and Sylar. Everyone one else can be replaced by a smaller cast of new characters.

Mohinder is a maybe.

However, I think Claire and HRG need to be shot. While Hiro's 'VILLAIN!' antics have gone as far as they can go before they get boring.

 

[Sawyer]

If NBC came up to you tomorrow and basicly said - 'look we want to start over in season 4. We wanna introduce new scenarios and a few new characters but first we want to cut down on the current cast. Only keep the characters you feel are absolutly vital to the series and will fit in with a new direction and have room for development'.

If you ask me literally the only two characters I would keep would be Peter Petrelli and Sylar. Everyone one else can be replaced by a smaller cast of new characters.

Mohinder is a maybe.

However, I think Claire and HRG need to be shot. While Hiro's 'VILLAIN!' antics have gone as far as they can go before they get boring.

You fail. Heroes without HRG is not worth watching.

 

[The Cajun]

You fail. Heroes without HRG is not worth watching.

How many times can you see a man say 'EVERYTHING I DO I DO FOR MY FAMILY!'?

 

[Sawyer]

How many times can you see a man say 'EVERYTHING I DO I DO FOR MY FAMILY!'?

HRG stays. End of discussion. There are better ways to cure a show than by killing one of the best, most complex characters.

 

[04nbod]

get rid of claire to give HRG a storyline. Make him go off the rails. Kill Mohinder. Preferably through his own stupidity. Make Peter the Dreamer again, afraid of his own power but determined to use them for good. Add Elle to the main cast, have her track HRG to get him to calm down. Nathan should stay good as a supporting character of peter.

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

I think its easier to say who would you keep.

For me:

Sylar, Nathan, Parkman, HRG, Elle, Hiro/Ando and maybe Daphne and Peter can all stay. The rest can leave.

 

[Magneto29]

I wouldn't be all that sad if Parkman left. It's already odd enough that he's supposed to end up married to someone who looks like they could be his daughter.
I love Sylar, but he's starting to suck. They having him act like a lost puppy, rather than bold and dangerous like the first season. Either they fix him up or give him a proper death.

 

[Batz]

claire, shes so bloody annoying, her whole quest to be a hero is just annoying.

I think mama petrelli will kick the bucket either end of this volume or the start of the next, making Sylar all evil again, I like what they are doing with him but surely Zach doesn't want to be type cast? i think we will see the end of Sylar end of volume 4, maybe sacrifice himself for hes brothers etc?

Unlike most of the guys/gals who post on here I quite like the Mohinder storyline at the moment, although I can't see him being a good guy if he is still around at the end of the season, he will probs get merked n all.

get rid of Claire, Mama Petrelli, Mohinder (don't see what else they can do with hes character?) and bring back Claude!

 

[SuBe]

Keep:

Hiro/Ando
HRG
Peter
Sylar
Matt
Daphne

Kill:

Tracy
Nathan
Suresh
Molly


Don't show as much:
Claire
Elle

Introduce a few more Charactors. Maybe a Team of Young 20 Somethings with Various powers that found eachother. They are working Secret Ops type stuff for the Government, and are lead by a 40-something Human with no powers.

They investigate other Meta-Humans, and are more of a shadow organization than PineHearst/Company, they are shown rarely, but it lets the audience know that the Government know something about the Heroes, and are willing to do something about it. Maybe Claire and Elle go to train with them, and we don't have to see them for a good number of episodes.

 

[SuperT]

I think they need to go a different route to weaving out characters then just killing off. I think they need to go more towards just writing them out after stories are finished up. That keeps the options open of them coming back in future seasons where they could mesh well with future storylines.

Killing off is not always a good way to get rid of characters. It could be like three seasons out from now and a great story could come up with new characters where a past character would just work great with them and oops you've already killed them off, well so much potentially great story.

That's pretty much my stance. They need to work more towards just wrapping stories up and writing characters out for the present time instead of just outright killing them off.

 

[Magneto29]

At least it's seems that they got rid of Maya... I've been wanting her to leave since she came.
Although instead of just reinventing Ali Larter, they would have been better off just getting rid of her altogether.

 

[SuBe]

At least it's seems that they got rid of Maya... I've been wanting her to leave since she came.
Although instead of just reinventing Ali Larter, they would have been better off just getting rid of her altogether.

At least, they should have waited a season before bringing her back.

 

[GL1]

Keep on, as Main Cast:
Peter - I wouldn't put him back at S1, but the Empathy with all the powers is a really great way to explore the Heroes universe... he doesn't need to be the main protag and source of the Apocalypse for another second, though... drop that tired line. He can't be the dreamer anymore.
Noah - Since they've killed off the 12, he's the best link we have to the Universe as a whole. Use him for that.
Hiro - LOST does a great job with flashbacks and flashforwards, Hiro would be incredibly awesome at exploring these.
Elle - Because she's kinda awesome, even though her storylines have been weak as heck. Imagine her with a good story?
Claire- "The Cheerleader" is kinda the heart of the series. If you want to overhaul the show, you have to overhaul her. How about separating her from the rest of the cast for a while? Claire undergoing changes is the perfect metaphor for the show undergoing changes. And her being her own person, as opposed to a simple minded adolescent, is great fodder to make HRG more than "For my family"-man.

Keep as recurring Cast/Guest Stars:
Mohinder - Character assassination aside, Mohinder is the best qualified to explore the science of the show, as well as the spiritual aspects. Humble him and get him back in a lab and with narrator's microphone. Bring him around every other episode or so.
Sylar- is tired and needs a rest. Give him an arc later in the season after the writers have some time to sit down and think about what he's done.
Ando- If Hiro's going to stop being comic relief, that means is comic relief partner gets to take a break too.
Molly, Micah- I just like them. And they're great actors for their age. They deserve a good arc, even if they aren't season mains.
Knox and Daphne Despite having no depth, these are great characters as recurring roles.

EVERYONE else can be removed, and perhaps even should be, dramatically so. That includes storylineless Matt Parkman, Nathan Petrelli the resurrection man, and anyone played by Ali Larter. I think these characters are around primarily because their actors are beloved. The characters themselves are worthless at this point, there is nothing that they do that could not be done better and more efficiently by an existing or new character. If they're so popular, spin them off into their own show, instead of letting them drag down Heroes into a clusterfrack of mediocrity.

 

[SuperT]

I would be crushed if they let Ali Larter go seeing as she's one of the best actresses on this show.

 

[Lando81]

get rid of claire to give HRG a storyline. Make him go off the rails. Kill Mohinder. Preferably through his own stupidity. Make Peter the Dreamer again, afraid of his own power but determined to use them for good. Add Elle to the main cast, have her track HRG to get him to calm down. Nathan should stay good as a supporting character of peter.

This Is what i want to see! Ive found claire to be a boring charachter this season and i usually Tivo past her or merideths parts.

 

[The Chairman]

I agree with killing Claire for kid to give HRG his own storyline. Claire used to be my favoirte character, but now she's become flacid, depthless and annoying. Have Grandpa take her powers and end her. Killing her would throw the show a massive curveball, as the "Save The Cheerleader, Save The World" plotline is still supposedly very much relevant.

As far as I'm concerned, Parkman needs to stay. He's the only character who keeps going in consistently interesting directions. He's by far the most developed charatcer since Season 1.

Mohinder should die in a sacrificial sort of way in order to redeem himself from the various ****-ups he's made.

Tracy, Barbara or whoever she is next week needs to go. Niki's storyline ended on a high note and should've been closed then and there. I like Ali Larter a lot but at this point she is basically eye candy.

Nathan should've died last season as well. Again, he's served very little purpose this season.

I love Elle. She's a loose cannon and provides comic relief, which is often lacking on this show. Have Elle get control of her powers and make her a Hero.

Peter needs to firmly establish control of his powers, otherwise I'm done with him. Same with Hiro. Ando is becoming far more interesting. Hiro needs to have his powers taken away, I think. Like Niki when she saved Monica, he should prove his heroism by being thrust into a similar situation involving Ando.

Sylar should've gone after Season 1. I'll admit he's been interesting this season, but he's getting tiresome at the same time.

 

[SuBe]

I agree with killing Claire for kid to give HRG his own storyline. Claire used to be my favoirte character, but now she's become flacid, depthless and annoying. Have Grandpa take her powers and end her. Killing her would throw the show a massive curveball, as the "Save The Cheerleader, Save The World" plotline is still supposedly very much relevant.

As far as I'm concerned, Parkman needs to stay. He's the only character who keeps going in consistently interesting directions. He's by far the most developed charatcer since Season 1.

Mohinder should die in a sacrificial sort of way in order to redeem himself from the various ****-ups he's made.

Tracy, Barbara or whoever she is next week needs to go. Niki's storyline ended on a high note and should've been closed then and there. I like Ali Larter a lot but at this point she is basically eye candy.

Nathan should've died last season as well. Again, he's served very little purpose this season.

I love Elle. She's a loose cannon and provides comic relief, which is often lacking on this show. Have Elle get control of her powers and make her a Hero.

Peter needs to firmly establish control of his powers, otherwise I'm done with him. Same with Hiro. Ando is becoming far more interesting.

I agree with most of this. I just would like to see Claire go away for a while, then come back, but she needs to have a reason why she was saved, she needs to do something that is world changing, not whiny and over dramatic.

 

[SuperT]

If I had my way, this is what I would do with the characters this season, to wrap up some stories:

- Sylar: He wants to redeem himself to become the ultimate hero, have Sylar sacrifice himself to save everyone from Arthur, making a nice little bookend to his story and closing one chapter.

- Sandra and Noah: They're killed in the crossfires of the war between Pinehearst and The Company

- Hiro & Ando: Ando finally dies, polarizing Hiro and leading him onto the path of becoming Future Hiro. He goes back to Japan and finally takes responsibility of Yamagato Industries with his sister, for the the time being....

- Claire: It's getting dangerous for Claire, so Nathan sends her off with Angela and possibly Meredith so she's safe for the time being....

- Nathan & Tracy: Start them on the road to Nathan becoming president and Tracy his first lady. Could be great if they go with the future storyline of specials being captured and persecuted, and he's the leader of the country behind it all. Great drama between him and Peter.

-Mohinder: Like in the future, get him as the scientific leader for Nathan's presidential cabinet/network

I would make Elle, Daphne, Matt, and Peter the core characters from there on out, of course bringing in new characters and story as well.

I would purposefully keep Hiro and Claire's ending open-ended to keep them open for return.

 

[Visceral]

Nope.

This is the problem with both Smallville and Heroes, they had a great first season, with great characters, well written, and the audience loved them. But because the audience loved them so much the writers got scared. It took them FOREVER to kill off jonothan and lionel in smallville and the progression of the other characters suffered from it. They need to take risks if they want other characters to grow.

Lost isn't afraid to do this. At the beginning of Lost I thought Charlie was a gonner, but he stuck around and I grew to love him. And then they just killed him. Why? Because that is good writing. Even Nikki and Paulo were given a story before they were knocked off. However it was to little to late for them. Charlie's death was so much better because I liked him.

Another good example of this, Isaac in season 1 of Heroes. I liked Isaac the guy was an addict but despite his failing turned around cleaned up and helped save the world. Then they just killed him. The death scared me and made me think that anyone could die at any time anywhere. That is exciting television people.

Sure I have problems with making the once badass sylar into a *****, but this is only because they have run out of things to do with him as a villian. The main problem with this show is the repetition and refusal to kill off characters that have out lived their stay.

If you want to kill repetition, just kill everyone. Put us on edge and make us think that anything is possible just like in the first season.

I love HRG but if he went out like the badass he is, would we hold it against the writers? Hell, it might finally put an end to claires *****ing.

Or kill Claire off and watch HRG go insane.

Kill Ando and watch Hiro become that badass we saw from the first season. I kind of want to know if he can act beyond the little kid that he is.

Or Kill off Hiro and watch Ando be taken under HRG's wing to learn how to deal with these special people.

Kill off Mohinder and .... ..... and.... um ... the show gets better?

Have Sylar kill Nathan and bring back a good rivalry between himself and Peter.

I always thought that you couldn't kill of Jack or Locke in Lost but um...season 4 anyone? So go ahead kill off Peter an show me a world that must make up for his loss.

I also think that the heroes should fail saving the world one time and have to deal with the consequences of a world that didn't get saved. The show tells us that time travel fixes everything but we all know that isn't true. Time travel ****s things up more and makes them crazier and more interesting.

Last but not least they should kill off a Trex and Hiro should do it. nuff said.

so yeah just kill everyone, I'm dead serious.

 

[Silk Spectre]

I think they should get rid of Mohinder. Not only is this Mohinder the fly monster story line stupid, but his character has no need to be there anymore. Daphne and Maya need to go as well. The show could probably do without Ando.

They should keep Hiro, Claire, HRG.

They need to bring back Nikki/Jessica and Micah

 

[neemer5]

My Keepers:
Noah
Syler
Claire
Hiro
(maybe) Peter
(maybe) Tracy/Niki/Jessica

The rest don't have to be killed. They can have happy endings, be "cured," or whatever. I just think that those 4-6 are essential and integral to the Heroes foundation. They definitely need new story lines. The "protect my family" or "discover myself" or "be a hero" mantras they've taken on can easily be tossed.

Or like Dankalel said, kill off everyone. Hey, it worked for Dynasty.

 

[Visceral]

My point was more or less directed at this thread or the idea that it assumes. No offense to its creator. I just don't see any point in watching something where we know exactly is going to happen. I want my favorite characters to be in true peril. whay would they make a show were they say okay this show is going to be really exciting but these five people won't die because you like them.

If I know the people I like are going to live the show loses its point.

This thread is more about which characters we still care about, not about who should live and die.

 

[Silk Spectre]

I think Maury could have been developed into a really cool villain, as well as Elle.

 

[marukisu]

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[GL1]

My point was more or less directed at this thread or the idea that it assumes. No offense to its creator. I just don't see any point in watching something where we know exactly is going to happen. I want my favorite characters to be in true peril. whay would they make a show were they say okay this show is going to be really exciting but these five people won't die because you like them.

If I know the people I like are going to live the show loses its point.

This thread is more about which characters we still care about, not about who should live and die.

Zactly. Some people, including the writers, don't realize that the character they like is holding the entire show back. It's sad.

Another thing "this thread" doesn't "get" is that you can remove a character without killing them. Like with Maya. You don't have to depower them either, you can just send them off somewhere and bring them back when they'll be useful.

We all have lists of who we'd like to see more of, but there's no real reason to keep Claire and HRG on the show as main cast members... there just isn't. Likewise, there's no reason to kill Mohinder just because his current storyline sucks, the character still has potential, at the very least, as a scientist and narrator. Nathan and Tracy, in contrast, don't have any potential. Even with the power boost, Matt still has nowhere to go, because his arc, imho, was wrapped up first season when Sylar "shot" him.

Sylar is not, is not, is not integral to the Heroes universe, he's just well liked. He can be killed off, redeemed, etc to make room for a fresh villain and the show will be better off, not worse.

The thing is, when you let any character become unkillable, that means the show has an end date. See LOST, they didn't know what to do because they didn't have a show without Jack, Locke, Sawyer and Kate... and Hurley. They don't know what to do without them... the LOST universe does center around this one flight, and those five characters and without them, its not lost... its lost "the next Generation." So they have an end date.

Heroes' premise indicates that these same types of things are happening to people all over the world, all at once. The Company is a huge organization with a long history. If the cast cycles properly, Heroes can go on forever, like a soap opera.