Dad chases naked boy from daughter's room

[Knightsaber Priss]

they are not allowed to, but since when did that make a difference? if someone wants to do something they'll do it, they not gonna go "oh no its against the law!". well very few kids think like that these days.

Well, I just think it's stupid because they're still just children. Of course I do have a very low tolerance for kids who can't think with the right head anyways. As long as their still in High School they will get me to roll my eyes every time because of how stupid and unevolved they are. I mean come on, we've not progessed enough on the Evolutionary Scale to be in control of our sexual urges? I mean why not save it all up for the right person instead of wasting it on some little meaningless fling? They're all just humping monkeys who have no clue what they're doing to me.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

oh yea i'm deffinatly against children having sex, 16 and up is okay IMO. but whatever we say or the law makers say won't make any difference atall. if some 15 year olds wanna get it on they will, hopefully nothing bad will happen but if it does well they'll have to learn by their mistakes.

 

[pyromaniac]

Well, I just think it's stupid because they're still just children. Of course I do have a very low tolerance for kids who can't think with the right head anyways. As long as their still in High School they will get me to roll my eyes every time because of how stupid and unevolved they are. I mean come on, we've not progessed enough on the Evolutionary Scale to be in control of our sexual urges? I mean why not save it all up for the right person instead of wasting it on some little meaningless fling? They're all just humping monkeys who have no clue what they're doing to me.

Sounds like you don't understand the teen mindset, let alone the adult one!

 

[pyromaniac]

Being known by the owners of the house doesn't make you immune to trespassing. Being invited in makes you immune to trespassing. And if someone owns a house and doesn't want a certain person there, and they are there...it's trespassing.

If that were true, the father could've charged the teenager for trespassing, and actually be content with it. I wonder because he was charged himself, could he still charge someone else?

Obi-won - a medal for your financial pains? Which would you prefer.

Zephyr, you'd have to take into account agreements and mitigating factors. Agreements: we all know protective parents are a given. Mitigating - acting probably hastily and with a metal pipe doesn't lend itself well to Father of the Year when all you end up is battery to show for your appreciation of the legal system. And the father you mentioned in your story knew he could be threatening enough without following up on it.

You know how we always make threats: we will harm you and such, and that often works, but it's ironic that when and if the threat is delivered, it could backfire on us because of the law that permits no physical harm, particularly with a weapon (fists don't count, hence many cases of domestic violence are legally recognised). Or more likely, we can be charged if the 'victim' smartens up to be able to sue us in turn. It is like if a robber breaks into your home and you whack at them with a baseball bat and you end up getting sued for it. And you cannot even claim self defense in this type of situation, which is more plausible.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

the kid couldn't get done for tresspassing, he was invited in by the girl. now she might not own the house but the kid could easily say he thought he was allowed in because someone who lived there invited him in.

 

[pyromaniac]

Yeah, that's what I said. I was making a counter point that they thought the teenager should've been charged for trespassing, and he wasn't.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea its like say my friend invited me into his house, and then his dad comes home, kicks me out and tries to get me done for tresspassing. i would just laugh in his face because i know they couldn't do jack about it.

 

[Zephyr Alexian]

Zephyr, you'd have to take into account agreements and mitigating factors. Agreements: we all know protective parents are a given. Mitigating - acting probably hastily and with a metal pipe doesn't lend itself well to Father of the Year when all you end up is battery to show for your appreciation of the legal system. And the father you mentioned in your story knew he could be threatening enough without following up on it.

So what should he have done? Should he walk into a room that he owns and politely ask this kid not to try to have sex with his underage daughter?

Oh yeah, that girl's father took a picture of a weapon that was sitting the living room with us while he was talking to me. I can't say what he would've done. I've seen too many news segments to say 'it can't happen to me.'

You know how we always make threats: we will harm you and such, and that often works, but it's ironic that when and if the threat is delivered, it could backfire on us because of the law that permits no physical harm, particularly with a weapon (fists don't count, hence many cases of domestic violence are legally recognised). Or more likely, we can be charged if the 'victim' smartens up to be able to sue us in turn. It is like if a robber breaks into your home and you whack at them with a baseball bat and you end up getting sued for it. And you cannot even claim self defense in this type of situation, which is more plausible.

Perhaps that's the case in some states, but I'm not sure the law is the same in every state on attacking a person who is breaking and entering. In Virginia, you can harm a thief inside of your home without receiving charges, but outside the home on your property is just like anywhere else.

I do see your point. I just feel like this is one of those situations that proves the inefficacy of the legal system.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

damn you have some weird laws in America!! if a burglar broke into my house and i feared for my families safety i wouldn't show any mercy, i would just beat them untill they couldn't move any more. now if i done that are you telling me that in some States I would be the one prosecuted? if thats the case they you have stupid laws.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

This is why the world is so screwed up now. Someone protecting his own home gets charged with a crime. Parents have no rights anymore. The kids have all the rights so they do whatever they want and get away with it. I have 2 daughters and I would have done the same thing if not worse. By the time my daughters are teenagers (they are 5 and 4 now) it will most likely be even worse. I fear for the generations to come.

 

[NHawk19]

What people seem to not get is that regardless of the reasons, the man still hit a minor with a metal pipe.

Lets focus on the minor part of that. . . . what about statutory rape?

Dad may be able to press charges on that one.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

how? i thought the daughter consented?

 

[NHawk19]

how? i thought the daughter consented?

If she's 15 she may be below the states age of consent.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

oh i see. well if shes below the age then that is out of order. but the girl is just as much to blame as the boy, she could of said no, but she didn't.

 

[NHawk19]

oh i see. well if shes below the age then that is out of order. but the girl is just as much to blame as the boy, she could of said no, but she didn't.

Agreed that it would be out of order, but w/o knowing all the facts I would say charging the father would also be out of order.

Since he was charged, and assuming that they were both under the age of consent, I could easily see a counter claim by the father which would damage that kids life much more than the dad's if it went through. Especially considering the kid could be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

i think thats a stupid law though, a couple of kids get a little bit too frivolous for their age and make a mistake by having sex, then the boy is put on a sex offenders list? that is bang out of order, i would be fooking going mad if i was put on the same list as peedos and rapists just for having sex with a girl who said she wanted it.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm gonna take the kid's side of this, while I don't think the father should go to jail or anything, he should get some community service and pay every cent of this kid's medical bills because the entire situation is his fault. The father made the rule that resulted in his daughter having to sneak around with her boyfriend. If the father wasn't so overprotective he wouldn't be in this mess to begin with, he would've known his daughter had a boyfriend. Then if she had the guy over, you just put in the whole no closed doors rule in my house, you know they'll have sex outside your home (since they're teenagers and teenagers like to have sex), but at least not inside. Plus you're not stalking the house with a metal pipe if you hear funny noises from your daughters room. The door will be open so you can check every so often that no funny stuff is going on. I understand being protective of your daughter/children, but you've also gotta give them some freedom, I think if you give them certain freedom's they'll be less likely to try to push the boundries.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The father made the rule that resulted in his daughter having to sneak around with her boyfriend.

And if the daughter followed her father's rules, there wouldn't have been a naked guy in her room for her father to rightfully beat the crap out of.

Giving your kids freedom doesn't include letting them have sex in your house.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but if he just accepted she had a boyfriend(which is perfectly normal IMO) and allowed him to come round supervised it would of been okay. Its easy just to say "you can come round but your not allowed in my daughters room with the door shut". And i think if the Dad was reasonable then the young lad would be reasonable aswell. But if the Dad comes across as a over-protective jerk saying "your never allowed in my house!!!" then the lad is gonna think "oh i ain't gonna listen to that *****e bag". Kids can't rebel if they are not treated like prisoners. I just think if you treat someone with respect you'll get it back, the Father didn't treat his daughter with respect so he didn't receive it.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

And if the daughter followed her father's rules, there wouldn't have been a naked guy in her room for her father to rightfully beat the crap out of.

Giving your kids freedom doesn't include letting them have sex in your house.

Yeah, but from the story the father seems very overprotective, which makes teens want to rebel that much more and do everything they say not to behind their back.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Its ridiculous that he is being charged. He should count his lucky stars that he is not dead. If I did not know my daughter had a boyfriend and found a stranger standing over her in her bedroom naked, I wouldn't think...I'd shoot.

really? isn't it the girls fault? since they were engaging in consensual sex ( or whatever it was they were doing) if he had killed that young man, as you so cavalierly put it "I wouldn't think....I'd shoot" ( how....Jack Bauer of you)
imagine the impact on the lives of the young man's parents, plus the fact that you **** up your own child for the rest of her life.
Rambo was a movie Matt, and there is a normal way of determining whether the girl was being raped or simply sneaking in her boyfriend like THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of girls do.
hahahaha, it's weird how normal people have children and then they go nuts, I mean, you never felt up your girl in her parent's house ( or worse) hahaha I'm sure that warranted a beating with a metal pipe.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Mr Sparkle you are a fooking legend. That is the funniest user name and avvy ever!!! When i see it i automatically think of the Japanese guy in that episode. " It's Mr Sparkalo!!!"

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Its ridiculous that he is being charged. He should count his lucky stars that he is not dead. If I did not know my daughter had a boyfriend and found a stranger standing over her in her bedroom naked, I wouldn't think...I'd shoot.

Agreed.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

well then he should allow his daughter to have a boyfriend, its perfectly normal. then he can come round in a supervised situation(maybe for dinner, or a movie) and they won't be any problems.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think he should allow anything that he doesn't want too. She should wait till she leaves his house if she wants to date. And if she doesn't she shouldn't be dumb enough to have sex in her bedroom knowing that her father could come home at anytime.