Damn Those Batman Fanboys

[SupaFresh208]

Let me make this very clear first this is an opinion and in no way is this a rant about TDK.

Now that I've said that: Am I the only dude that is tired of reading and hearing about how great TDK is? I'm looking forward to the movie but the more and more people berate other films (IRON MAN, HULK, even HANCOCK) in comparison to the TDK is just stupid. For starters to say that TDK will blow every movie out the water is somewhat silly. I say somewhat because I know it will sell based on the greatness that was BB, however listening to reviews is stupid in itself. Be a ****in movie goer and watch it then cast judgment. Remember The Incredible Hulk reviews, how great it was and then there was a backlash on here saying it was good but it wasen't great. I'm feeling that this might be the TDK's fate as well. I'm caught in between on the one hand I was excited about seeing the film but on the flipside all these ***** fanboys downing other movies for a movie that has yet to be released is ridiculous. Critics loved Superman Returns even though (in my eyes and most of my friends) its a watered down piece of ****. Replay value is when you can tell you have a great movie. Try watching Superman Returns again when you just wake up and try not to catch yourself falling back asleep....Don't worry I'll wait!

The trailers, reviews, TV spots for the TDK all look good and I sincerely hope it is a good movie. I'm supporting it either way but the point I'm stressing here is "**** THEM FANBOYS." Everywhere website I hear people ****ting on every movie thus far which is uncalled for. In a year of superhero movies just sit back and enjoy. If anyone give me a reason why TDK is the greatest movie of the year please do. Wait you can't because it hasen't come out yet. Or you can't because your dumb for prejudging a film that has yet to be released. In the back of my mind I woudn't hate it if Bats was to flop not because I hate batman but because it will give WB a clue that maybe just maybe they can bring out a movie that wasen't just Bats or Supes. Yea, Constantine & V for Vendetta don't count.

I know I'll get some flack about this but that's fine I stand by my opinion..

 

[Jack O Lantern]

This started three years ago when Batman Begins came out and that was vastly over rated in my opinion. Every other Batman movie was crap and didn't get the character, Jack Nicholsons Joker was just Jack being Jack. Whatever that means. The Spider-Man films were for kids and every super hero movie has to be realistic. Look at Heath Ledger, with all due respect, before he was cast he was the guy that played a gay cowboy, suddenly he became the best actor of his generation.

I saw a thread yesterday when someone rank The Dark Knight as their favourite Batman movie without seeing it.

I with you in that I hope The Dark Knight rocks and is as good as the hype and that Ledger is as good as everyone expects but please folks wait until you see the movie before passing judgement.

 

[donk70]

I'm with you on all accounts, although I don't think I would have used such colorful language to stress my points.

Let me add here that I'm also tired of hearing how fanboys are so upset that Ledger wont be here to see his performance and to reap the accolades. The guy's been dead for 6 months, let him rest. Sure, his performance looks outstanding, but for crying out loud you didn't know him personally. Stop being so melodramatic about it. Did his death really change your world? Are you better or worse off than you were 6 months ago due to his death?

Give it a rest folks. Enjoy the movie, enjoy the actors, and most of all: Enjoy the other movies that are being released. 2008 really has some great flicks out there, just not The Dark Knight

 

[dnno1]

I'ts not just fanboys that are praising this. There are a number of critics that are giving it surprisingly good reviews. I am not a fan of Rottentomatoes.com, but the initial reviews on the film as of today (July 07, 2008) are all positive (100%). Although this is still very early that is unusual, since it is not customary to see a film get a 100% rating (this is my first time seeing it). I was on the fence initially after seeing the trailers in the theaters, but after seeing a viral video of the first 6 minutes of the film, I am beginning to change my opinion. There is some brilliance here that you don't normally see in these kinds of films and I think you guy's downplay of it isn't doing it justice.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

No one is down playing the film. The problem is the fan boys who are calling it the greatest superhero movie ever, without seeing it. The problem is that they feel the need to down play past incarnations of Batman and other successful super hero movies. We have all expressed a desire to see the movie and praise it but we just want the people to wait to see it before judging it and to stop insulting other movies for no good reason.

 

[dnno1]

They are just repeating what people (like Kevin Smith) who saw it are saying about the film. They might be legit on this one.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

There's every possiblity that it will be the best superhero movie ever but judge for yourself. Do you think Kevin Smith would praise it without seeing it?

And even if it turns out to be that great there is still no need to bad mouth other films, is there?

 

[dnno1]

Who is badmouthing other films and where is that happening?

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Go into the misc Batman films forum. Every discusion is turned into a Begins vs Batman/ Batman Returns debate by people who are uncomfortable with the idea that people prefer Burton.

Go into the Superman Returns forums and people are saying that the Superman films should follow the same path as Nolan.

It doesn't happen anymore but when Begins first came out people would go into the Spider-Man 2 forums and trash it and compare everything in it to Begins

 

[dnno1]

Well shouldn't this thread be posted there then?

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think the original post is a very one-sided view of the situation. Sure, some posters on here have been over-eager to slam and crap on every other superhero movie in order to heap premature praise on "The Dark Knight". Some crap on Nicholson to praise Ledger, or crap on Keaton to praise Bale. I'm not one of them, I hate this idea that you have to bring down "the other guy" in order to praise "your guy". But it's hardly an all-emcompassing phenomenom, where all (or even most, for that matter) Batman fans are mocking and belittling all other superhero movies.

And consider the other side of the coin. Over on the "Batman Begins" board, it seems like you can't just give simple praise for "Batman Begins" without being accused by someone of holding an agenda or of being a blind Nolanite. The "bash the other Batman franchise" bandwagon isn't limited to the pro-Nolan camp.

I've spotted a few people with suspicious "Iron Man" or "The Hulk" avatars pop into trailer threads when a new trailer has been released, going against the grain to talk about how boring and stupid the trailers are, and how "Iron Man"/"The Hulk" will be much better. Fanboys pimping "their" film and feeling they need to "pick a side" and bash all other films is just stupid. But it's not all TDK fans doing it. A small but vocal minority from amongst the fans of EVERY superhero film this year seems to have this mindset. It's dumb, because surely in a year so dominated by the comic book movie genre, we're all winners?

 

[DarkSovereignty]

i don't the get whole "my movie is better than yours" thing. I just try to, you know, enjoy the films. Which is I'm fairly certain is their intended purpose.

 

[RickO'Connell]

I think the thing the title says when Hype does not load

 

[az824]

im a HUGE batman fan but im a little tired of all the TDK talk b/c im afraid by the time the movie comes i'll be sick of hearing about it

 

[az824]

oh and like already mentioned its 2 sided. there are many people on RT that voted TDK as 0%, its easy tp deduce that they havent seen the movie and they hate batman/DC or something and are simply voting that way to bring it down

 

[SupaFresh208]

Im not so much into using quotes but "dnn01" my intention was not to downplay TDK at all but to shed light on the fact that it hasen't been watched by the dudes who claim it's the best superhero or best movie ever. All I'm saying is don't let the hype fool you into believing that it will be the best movie ever. A few years back 2006 I believe there was a movie called "Eragon" which was supposed to be a trilogy and the critics loved it. 5 Stars all across the board from Rupert, reel.com, etc etc. I watched that movie (actually paid) and enjoyed possibly the best on/off nap I ever experienced. In no way am I comparing the two movies but I am comparing the hype. Sometimes too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. I don't want TDK to be an okay movie but even if it was fanboys will claim its the best thing out as some fans of the Superman Returns movie...SMH.

You also said who is badmouthing these other films and where? I've been a member of this forum for about a year and I have 102posts which means I read a lot. And before I even began posting on the forum I was just on the regular SHH website and the comments they would leave were uncalled for. One thats just more recent was about the numbers for Hancock (104million). Many people were talking about TDK is GOD to these crappy films and saying that it will outsell every thing including Will Smith's movie Hancock. Hancock may not have been the best movie out there but as usual Will Smith provided enough of himself to make people buy a ticket (Like Me). Im drifting from my intial opinion which was you love batman great but don't disrespect other movies in the process and downplay them.

Someone else said it's two-sided...your absolutely right it is two-sided but if we were to do statistics then statistically there are more TDK riders out there. I think I was in a thread about a possible He-Man movie and about 2pages became about TDK, I was like WTF.

 

[dnno1]

oh and like already mentioned its 2 sided. there are many people on RT that voted TDK as 0%, its easy tp deduce that they havent seen the movie and they hate batman/DC or something and are simply voting that way to bring it down

You certainly can't go by the RT community votes at this time since it is highly unlikely that they had the opportunity to see the pre-screening of the film. This is part of the reason why I don't like to use RottenTomatoes.com as a credible source. What I have noted though is the fact that of the nine critics who have been listed so far all of them have reported the film to be "fresh", giving it a 100% score, which is unusual.

 

[dnno1]

Im not so much into using quotes but "dnn01" my intention was not to downplay TDK at all but to shed light on the fact that it hasen't been watched by the dudes who claim it's the best superhero or best movie ever. All I'm saying is don't let the hype fool you into believing that it will be the best movie ever. A few years back 2006 I believe there was a movie called "Eragon" which was supposed to be a trilogy and the critics loved it. 5 Stars all across the board from Rupert, reel.com, etc etc. I watched that movie (actually paid) and enjoyed possibly the best on/off nap I ever experienced. In no way am I comparing the two movies but I am comparing the hype. Sometimes too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. I don't want TDK to be an okay movie but even if it was fanboys will claim its the best thing out as some fans of the Superman Returns movie...SMH.

You also said who is badmouthing these other films and where? I've been a member of this forum for about a year and I have 102posts which means I read a lot. And before I even began posting on the forum I was just on the regular SHH website and the comments they would leave were uncalled for. One thats just more recent was about the numbers for Hancock (104million). Many people were talking about TDK is GOD to these crappy films and saying that it will outsell every thing including Will Smith's movie Hancock. Hancock may not have been the best movie out there but as usual Will Smith provided enough of himself to make people buy a ticket (Like Me). Im drifting from my intial opinion which was you love batman great but don't disrespect other movies in the process and downplay them.

Someone else said it's two-sided...your absolutely right it is two-sided but if we were to do statistics then statistically there are more TDK riders out there. I think I was in a thread about a possible He-Man movie and about 2pages became about TDK, I was like WTF.

[YT]37zErAXOx-A[/YT]

Like I have said before, E! news is reporting that ticked presales are 8 times that of Spider-Man 3 for that time period (21 days before release). I estimate is that the film will have a big opening weekend and may wind up making more than $500 million (that might be low balling it). I think things are already set in motion and noting is going to stop it. I will admit that I did see the first six minutes of the film in a viral video and it looked pretty interesting (a brilliant bank robbery). Oh, and by the way your saying don't let the hype fool you is an attempt at downplaying the film. If you weren't you wouldn't have said that.

 

[SupaFresh208]

^^ No need for me to go any further into this because you've already made up your mind which is fine. However I'm not downplaying anything if you read my opinions then you would know that fam.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This is not a new issue nor is it one that needs a thread to argue it in, some posters are so obsessed with TDK that it is as if it is their child and they show no sense, they do not represent all fans of the franchise though.