Did Warner Bros. Miss The Point?

[The Major]

Ben:

You honestly think WB would have the courage to do a big budget movie with gay characters that are obvious satires of Superman and Batman?

I'd like to see it happen.

 

[The Guard]

Maybe then we'd see HAWK AND DOVE.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Aren't they brothers?

Anyways, I'd prefer a Midnighter/Apollo movie if we are going down that route

 

[terry78]

When doing something along the lines of a Flash, you want it to be more Iron Man and less TDK. Some characters honestly just do not work with constant dreariness and desolate hopelessness.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well as others said with robinov he probably didnt mean all the characters will be dark. he probably meant to really say taking things more seriously and more mature and being less kiddy popcorn flicks. So we just have to wait and see which films are indeed picked for the other 2 besides batman 3 and superman reboot and what each film's director's and writers are because they have some say in what is going to happen.

 

[Red Mask]

There is another angle they could play up to make it more mature without going too far. How about making all the members of the Justice League come from some military or authoritarian background? At least that way they can just slip past the whole 'team dynamic' problem and get straight to the fighting.

1. Superman: son of a ruling house from Krypton
2. Wonder Woman: Amazon princess
3. Batman: billionaire, descendant of Scottish knights
4. Aquaman: benign ruler of Atlantis
5. J'onn J'onnz: Martian Manhunter
6. Barry Allen: police officer in C.S.I. unit
7. Hal Jordan: ranking officer in the U.S. Airforce
8. John Stewart: ranking Marine officer
9. Guy Gardner: U.S. Ranger
10. Kyle Rayner: officer in the U.S. Corps of Engineers
11. The Atom: government physicist

 

[The Major]

There is another angle they could play up to make it more mature without going too far. How about making all the members of the Justice League come from some military or authoritarian background?

Some of them already do.

At least that way they can just slip past the whole 'team dynamic' problem and get straight to the fighting.

You'll end up with a boring blockbuster with that formula.

Actions movies must have good fighting but for them to be great they need to have good writing and characterization. Unless the audience cares about them or knows what they can they will enjoy it less.

1. Superman: son of a ruling house from Krypton
2. Wonder Woman: Amazon princess
3. Batman: billionaire, descendant of Scottish knights
4. Aquaman: benign ruler of Atlantis
5. J'onn J'onnz: Martian Manhunter
6. Barry Allen: police officer in C.S.I. unit
7. Hal Jordan: ranking officer in the U.S. Airforce
8. John Stewart: ranking Marine officer
9. Guy Gardner: U.S. Ranger
10. Kyle Rayner: officer in the U.S. Corps of Engineers
11. The Atom: government physicist

Jonn is a cop in his secret identity and was one on Mars.

Aquaman is a warrior king.

Batman doesn't need to be descended from any warriors to be cool. He's Batman. That's enough.

WW is the champion of Athena. The Greek gods use her to smite their foes when they feel like it. That's how bad ass she is.

You don't need to turn Kyle or Guy into government workers to keep them interesting. Kyle not having any connections to the government or military actually makes him more unique since he works as an outsider/rookie to super-heroism.

I do like the idea of the Atom being a government scientist.

 

[Crook]

1. Batman: billionaire, descendant of Scottish knights
2. Guy Gardner: U.S. Ranger
3. Kyle Rayner: officer in the U.S. Corps of Engineers

What in the world? These aren't necessary.

 

[Red Mask]

Some of them already do.

You'll end up with a boring blockbuster with that formula.

Not if the villains are so bad-ass they have to get straight to the perfect-teamwork mode. When whole cities are being destroyed the last thing you need are heroes bickering with each other.

Actions movies must have good fighting but for them to be great they need to have good writing and characterization. Unless the audience cares about them or knows what they can they will enjoy it less.

I never understood why we need to know the backstory of every superhero. When a villain is causing mass mayhem you don't question the motives of your savior. You just kiss his ass and say 'thank you'.

Jonn is a cop in his secret identity and was one on Mars.
Aquaman is a warrior king.
Batman doesn't need to be descended from any warriors to be cool.
WW is the champion of Athena. The Greek gods use her to smite their foes when they feel like it. That's how bad ass she is.
You don't need to turn Kyle or Guy into government workers to keep them interesting. Kyle not having any connections to the government or military actually makes him more unique since he works as an outsider/rookie to super-heroism.

I do like the idea of the Atom being a government scientist.

The Justice League cartoons turned Jon Stewart from an architect to a former Marine. It worked because it supports his qualifications for combat. Having the rest coming from some military or authoritarian background will support the idea that these guys are more qualified than some paper boy or mechanic. You can't expect somebody to wake up and be a superhero these days. There is nothing wrong with implying that it's partly in their background, or in their blood, as long as they can do the job right.

 

[Katsuro]

The Justice League cartoons turned Jon Stewart from an architect to a former Marine. It worked because it supports his qualifications for combat. Having the rest coming from some military or authoritarian background will support the idea that these guys are more qualified than some paper boy or mechanic. You can't expect somebody to wake up and be a superhero these days. There is nothing wrong with implying that it's partly in their background, or in their blood, as long as they can do the job right.

Why does he need military background, when he has SUPER POWERS? Did Peter Parker need military training to kick ass as Spider-Man?

And who says they'd just be waking up and jumping right into being a superhero? Most superheroes go through a training phase, where they learn their powers. A JLA movie wouldn't be an origin movie for most of the characters. They'd be joining together after having already learned to fight on their own. Batman's already had his origin, and learned how to kick ass, and he didn't need to be descended from Scottish kings or whatever you're talking about.

Seriously, terrible idea.

 

[The Guard]

John Stewart being a Marine pales in comparison to him being an architect. The whole point of him being an architect was that he had a keen, analytical mind, and he used this in his work as a Green Lantern. I don't mind him being both, come to think of it, but the cartoon didn't do his character any favors.

 

[Steelsheen]

The Justice League cartoons turned Jon Stewart from an architect to a former Marine. It worked because it supports his qualifications for combat. Having the rest coming from some military or authoritarian background will support the idea that these guys are more qualified than some paper boy or mechanic. You can't expect somebody to wake up and be a superhero these days. There is nothing wrong with implying that it's partly in their background, or in their blood, as long as they can do the job right.

agreed with you on this man

 

[Red Mask]

John Stewart being a Marine pales in comparison to him being an architect. The whole point of him being an architect was that he had a keen, analytical mind, and he used this in his work as a Green Lantern. I don't mind him being both, come to think of it, but the cartoon didn't do his character any favors.

It made him popular around the world.

 

[Red Mask]

Why does he need military background, when he has SUPER POWERS? Did Peter Parker need military training to kick ass as Spider-Man?

And who says they'd just be waking up and jumping right into being a superhero? Most superheroes go through a training phase, where they learn their powers. A JLA movie wouldn't be an origin movie for most of the characters. They'd be joining together after having already learned to fight on their own. Batman's already had his origin, and learned how to kick ass, and he didn't need to be descended from Scottish kings or whatever you're talking about.

Seriously, terrible idea.

Not if WB wants to make this film more 'dark and mature'. These aren't everyday people. Aliens, Amazon princesses, Atlantean kings, etc - those guys aren't everyday people. If they're going handle threats like Darkseid -which I'm sure everybody wants - then let them handle the threats as a capable, elite fighting force. Origins be damned because there are too many characters. I didn't need to know the origins of the characters in Speed. They just did their jobs and won!

If WB doesn't want to do that, then let it be a family adventure, with lots of laughs and uplifting morality lessons.