Daredevil Daredevil - fighting ability / action scenes

[yllum]

Guys, figure I should start a thread here to discuss how daredevil fighting abiltiy should be portaryed on the tv series. Do you want matt to exhibit abilties like he had on the ben affleck film?

what action scenes would u like to see on the series.?

 

[metaphysician]

I would say "no". The Affleck movie had him practically be Spider-man's grimmer brother. He should be a cinematic martial artist, acrobat, and ninja, but less with the blatantly superhuman feats.

Basically, look at Arrow? Daredevil should fight something like that, just with less homicide.

 

[Shakel92]

DD is not a killer, but the action sequences should be more geared towards Arrow than AoS. He is borderline "super" in that his senses allow him to determine his opponents move in advance.

 

[Hypestyle]

Well, from the 80s forward, DD is a "martial artist/ninja" guy, so I guess it should be reflective of that. As far as exact stunts or special moves, I don't know. I'd leave it to the choreographers.

 

[yllum]

Reading those DD comics. .he seems to be really agile and was swinging all over places with his billy club.

I love DD Alot but I could never understand how he could do those "spidey" stuff. I thought only his 5 senses are super human level?

Physically he is just peak human right? How come he can walk on wire?

Can anyone enlighten me?

 

[Naked Shia]

He's been evry agile since his first adventures. As soon as his father got killed, he trained like a beast.

Then when Frank Miller took over as a writer in 1980, he made DD's origins deeper, and introduced his sensei, Stick, who taught him martial arts.

So he doesn't have super powers per se (even if his radar sense is kinda super human), but he's an extremely talented martial artist and a great acrobat.

They could definitely take arrow as an inspiration with the street level fighting, mixed with some martial arts, and add some parkour.

 

[the gael]

DD should be very agile, but at the peak human. He must be portrayed as the top of what a human can do as a fighter and as an acrobat, but not above.

That being said, he has to take some incredible risks during his fights and chase / parkour scenes, something that no "sane" human would do because it's "too dangerous". After all, he is "the Man without fear" ! And his supersenses will help him.

Something like Nolan's Batman, but with a more "fearless" / "Daredevil" style.

But, at the end of the day, he can only do what the most agile acrobat and gymnast can do in reality.

 

[bluerayer]

Well, what kind of martial arts is DD trained in?

 

[Naked Shia]

ninjitsu mostly.

 

[gohei_]

As much as I love Arrow I think DD should be a few notches higher in terms of action and fight scenes.
WHen I saw Cap 2 I kept thinking that if they toned down his abilities just a little bit it would be perfect for DD, then just add in his swinging and throwing/fighting with his sticks.
I honestly think that Scott Adkins (yes him again) would make for the perfect stunt double.
Also, his supersenses gives him much more control of his body, both in coordination and balance. He could probably also be able to always use his muscles to the fullest potential which would make him both stronger and faster than your average joe.

 

[cryptic name]

Good martial arts choreography, acrobatics and some parkour stuff. Daredevil shouldn't be able to do anything a stuntman can't do, a lot of the cg stuff from the Affleck movie was ridiculous and looked terrible.

As far his fighting style and making it unique, mixing ninjitsu with boxing techniques would be perfect for the character, given his back story.

 

[bluerayer]

ninjitsu mostly.

Of course. I figured that was it.

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

Good martial arts choreography, acrobatics and some parkour stuff. Daredevil shouldn't be able to do anything a stuntman can't do, a lot of the cg stuff from the Affleck movie was ridiculous and looked terrible.

As far his fighting style and making it unique, mixing ninjitsu with boxing techniques would be perfect for the character, given his back story.

Totally agreed. Practical stunts & effects for Daredevil are the way to go here because it makes sense budget-wise and more importantly, stays more true to the character. At least to my knowledge, he's not usually portrayed as superhuman other than his enhanced senses - just a guy at the peak of human fitness otherwise.

 

[yllum]

I do hope the series show scenes of him walking on a thin wire/rope.

I am sure u guys are aware.DD does that alot in the comics. One thing that buffers me. Can a human do that? A human at the peak of human potential? What u guys think?

I understand that his 5 senses are superhuman. Is the relevant to how he can walk on a rope? Sense of balance?

 

[bluerayer]

I do hope the series show scenes of him walking on a thin wire/rope.

I am sure u guys are aware.DD does that alot in the comics. One thing that buffers me. Can a human do that? A human at the peak of human potential? What u guys think?

I understand that his 5 senses are superhuman. Is the relevant to how he can walk on a rope? Sense of balance?

I saw a guy do that, when i was at a circus once, he was really fast too and those guys do it everyday. Training.

 

[yllum]

I saw a guy do that, when i was at a circus once, he was really fast too and those guys do it everyday. Training.

Aye, I see

Makes me want think of dick Grayson. Hahaha

daredevil probably = dick Grayson + superhuman senses

 

[bluerayer]

Aye, I see

Makes me want think of dick Grayson. Hahaha

daredevil probably = dick Grayson + superhuman senses

+Ninja training =

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, there needs to be two kinds of stunts. The first, that's been mentioned by several people, is Parkour. I think they can cheat someone for television safety reasons, but practical stunts by someone good at it is an ideal. Second, they need some kind of martial art fighting techniques. These are necessarily heavily scripted and staged and I care less if they're really done or if it's all camera tricks. Captain America pulled off close-quarter fighting very well. Arrow looks a little too sluggish for my tastes. Something that looks brutal and personal would be great (although he could also use the dark to his advantage and just take people down unseen).

 

[metaphysician]

I would agree that stealth takedowns are appropriate. . . and also a good way to save budget dollars. Obviously, you don't want to go Heroes and have every fight take place off camera, but every time you use appropriate tricks to not have to do a fight, you save money for making the fights you *do* show all the better.

 

[yllum]

Can dd actually dodge bullets? I seems to read some comics which he does that.. due to his radar sense perhaps?

 

[bluerayer]

Can dd actually dodge bullets? I seems to read some comics which he does that.. due to his radar sense perhaps?

He can hear heartbeats, he recognized Peter Parker as Spiderman, so i would imagine he could hear the trigger of a gun? I dunno though.

 

[Mike Murdock]

He hears things that indicate someone is about to shoot, such as a spike in heartbeat. I also imagine he'd hear the gun moving in the air and his radar sense can help him determine that it's a gun pointing at him. I do think he'll hear the hammer slam the split second before the shot, but, in the grand scheme of things, that's not much time at all.

 

[metaphysician]

Its varied somewhat. In the comics, he actually has a number of incidences where he's parried bullets in a manner similar to how true bullet-time reflex types do, buuuut. . .

He hears things that indicate someone is about to shoot, such as a spike in heartbeat. I also imagine he'd hear the gun moving in the air and his radar sense can help him determine that it's a gun pointing at him. I do think he'll hear the hammer slam the split second before the shot, but, in the grand scheme of things, that's not much time at all.

This. Basically, Daredevil has almost the perfect set of powers and abilities to pull off bullet dodging and parrying *without* having to actually have superhuman reflexes. Thus, I am generally reluctant to actually say "Daredevil has superhuman reflexes", especially since he has a long career of being competitive with other peak-human-ish martial arts types.

In the context of a TV show, this means that Daredevil should generally dodge bullets by avoiding the line of fire, not by plagiarizing the Matrix. Granted, he should be *really good* at avoiding the line of fire. . . but he shouldn't be looking at a bullet heading straight for his head, and move his head out of the way.

That should be Danny Rand's schtick.

 

[The.Brotherhood]

I think most would be japanese martial-arts, parkour and acrobats...I'm excited about the action scenes / elements from DD and Iron Fist...Japanese / Chinese Martial Arts on full display!

 

[Tymminator]

Well, what kind of martial arts is DD trained in?

Ninjutsu and Boxing primarily.