Dark Victory is very good.

[Morgoth]

I haven't even read much of it and, I'm loving it already! I just read the prologue and almost all of the first issue in the tpb, man it's good stuff!


I have to get some of the action figs that just came out for it, but one thing bothers me about them as with the other Tim Sale Batman figure, they do NO justice to Sale's artwork. Batman looks no where near as cool as Tim's version of Batman, it just doesn't look like Tim's Batman.

The others loojk good but the main guy looks well, weird.

 

[Two-Face]

Yeah DV is good but not good as THL.

 

[comic_guy04]

I bought the batman and joker figures from TLH and they are ok. batman is kinda dogfaced but the joker is really creepy looking and he has the santa bag and the christmas hat and his big ass hand cannon. fifteen bucks a piece but oh well they are collectors items.

 

[souloffire]

Yeah DV is good but not good as THL.

Well that sucks for DV since I didn't think the TLH was anything special.

 

[Rynan]

Dv > Tlh

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I think the reason I didn't like DV as much as TLH was b/c of the lack of Gilda. The ending to TLH just seemed to imply unfinished work.....something that Batman needed to solve....and in DV, it's barely even suggested, much less faced.

 

[DarkNick]

I can't fully put this into perspective because I read it a while ago now, but Dark Victory was actually the first Batman book I read, after I heard it was one of the major inspirations behind Batman Begins. It pretty much totally blew me away and began the comic addiction I'm guessing most of you are also going through right now. I wasn't even aware it was a sequel at the time. When I did get around to reading The Long Halloween, it too amazed me.

I usually prefer Batman without Robin, but I think of Dark Victory more fondly than almost any other story because of its influence on my own interpretation of Batman. It just felt 'right' to me.

 

[Qoèlet]

The ending to TLH just seemed to imply unfinished work.....something that Batman needed to solve....and in DV, it's barely even suggested, much less faced.

See, I took that a whole other way. TLH was a defeat, not something that needed more work. It's ending was one that set a very sombre tone for Gotham. Batman lost Harvey, failed to prevent a long list of deaths, and with the final scene with Gilda we see that the "world's greatest detective" failed to solve the case after all. He doesn't have his ally, so he begins to feel (and in this sense I think the two stories are best read together) like he can't depend on anyone else. Note the contrast from the beginning of TLH to the end: "I believe in Gotham City, I believe in Harvey Dent, I believe in Jim Gordon" goes to simply "I believe in Batman" in his sort of epilogue. A lot of things sort of get torn away in TLH, so in DV Batman's coming to terms with that. He has to almost relearn how to trust Gordon, needs to let go of Two-Face and Selina, but the key aspect of Dark Victory is that by the end of the story, Batman's not alone anymore because he has Robin.

Just my reading.

 

[Morgoth]

Just finished DV, very good, way better than TLH. The part at the end with Robin got me all choked up, very nice scene on the last page.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

way better than TLH.

I wouldn't go that far. The Long Halloween is probably my favorite Batman comic ever. Dark Victory is excellent to though.

 

[Two-Face]

I agree there Carmine.

 

[Morgoth]

I can usually predict stuff right away but I didn't think it was Sofia who was the Hangman right away. Very good story, I did suspect she might be lying about being crippled though.

 

[Morgoth]

I love all the villians working together so well, and without being over done.

I'd love to see Robin's origin handled like this in a Batman movie. Very well done, Dick's story didn't have to be told word for word 'cause we all know what it is and a few beautiful pics by the great Tim Sale handled it very nicely.

 

[Batman1939]

I havent read TLH or DV yet im planning to buy them soon but, and I only hav the 1st 3 parts of YO gosh im bad.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

You gotta love the page spread with all the villains bursting into the courtroom.

 

[dr.strange]

long halloween is approaching classic status,its up there with killing joke,year one and dark knight returns.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

TLH is already in classic status, I think.

 

[Bat-Hombre]

TLH is already in classic status, I think.

Yes, but it's just average.

 

[souloffire]

long halloween is approaching classic status,its up there with killing joke,year one and dark knight returns.

It might be a classic but no way is it up there with those books.

 

[Bat-Hombre]

It might be a classic but no way is it up there with those books.

Loeb isn't a good writer.

 

[Joker]

Loeb isn't a good writer.

you're a fool

 

[comic_guy04]

Loeb isn't a good writer.

 

[Two-Face]

Loeb isn't a good writer.

What? you don't know what are you talking about.

It might be a classic but no way is it up there with those books.

Yes it is up there with Y1, TKJ,TDKR,TMWL etc... it retells origins of Two-Face with Bruce is in his 3rd year as Batman

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I bought both TLH and DV off Amazon last year but I haven't gotten around to reading DV yet.

 

[Agentsands77]

Well, lessee, THE LONG HALLOWEEN is my favorite Batman comic to date, and is definitely one of the great classics for the character. A fantastic story and fantastic artwork. Doesn't get much better than that.

DARK VICTORY is pretty good, but it's not anywhere near as great as THE LONG HALLOWEEN is. It's an appendix to LONG HALLOWEEN, and exists primarily to tie up loose ends. It's riding on the coattails of THE LONG HALLOWEEN, but without the brilliance of THE LONG HALLOWEEN's narrative and with lesser artwork.

But still, it's one of the few comics I've read that was able to make sense of the Robin character, a testament to Loeb's ability as a writer.