Deadpool Deadpool's new continuity

[dax]

Oh gawd my head hurts...why not just erase XMO from everything. That would explain why Sabertooth doesn't poke at Wolverine about being his brother in Xmen. We can go back to Wolverine's original flashes of his surgery which was much more dramatic looking and we can go back to Logan having amnesia because of the surgery not some ¢°&@ adamantium bullet! Plus a better Deadpool.

Origins isn't entirely erased. The movie started in 1845 with Wolverine as a child and everything from that year to 1973 still exists in the timeline. Sabertooth never spoke to Wolverine in X1 because he's still pissed off at him for abandoning his own brother and the fact that Wolverine doesn't remember him makes Sabertooth hate Wolverine even more.

XO:W is pretty much completely ignored by everyone making movies set in this universe, plus it already presented many glaring continuity errors.

First of all, First Class is the one that made all the continuity errors, not Origins.
Second, the filmmakers didn't ignore Origins at all because in the Wolverine, the Nagasaki bombing occurred during World War 2 which Wolverine fought in just like he did in Origins. Plus, we heard Kayla's voice just before Wolverine wakes up and his cameo in First Class is pretty much an acknowledgement of Origins's existence. Days of Future Past had that girl call him "Jimmy" which Sabertooth always calls him in Origins and whenever we see Wolverine's thoughts, we see clips of Origins.

Lastly, the fact that only Wolverine and Xavier remember the events of Origins means the film will never be ignored.

 

[-JKR-]

Not that any of that matters here. This movie's its own thing.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Not that any of that matters here. This movie's its own thing.

Yeah, Reynolds pretty much confirmed it, and also making fun of DoFP, saying Deadpool is not affected by it at all.

 

[def28]

Reese and Wernick about ignoring the timeline.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Deadpool-Decided-Ignore-X-Men-Movie-Timeline-111287.html

We made a very early decision to ignore the previous incarnation of Deadpool in [X-Men Origins:] Wolverine, and maybe not even ignore it, but make fun of it even. It was so opposite what Deadpool fans envisioned for that character, so we kind of threw that overboard. And over time, yes, the X-Men ended up going back into the past and then working their way back to the present - obviously now with each subsequent movie. But we made a decision early on to put Colossus in there, because we didn’t feel like he had been given the best representation in the early movies. It wasn’t like he was misrepresented. He was just ignored a little bit.

We had fun with it, and at some point, I think we might have to make some hard decisions, but hopefully the X universe will have caught up by that point and it’ll make it easier on us.

 

[Eddie]

Yeah, as far as Reynolds is concerned this isn't part of the DoFP timeline. Between that and Legion apparently also being in its own continuity I'm wondering if Fox is considering going in a different direction with their Mutant stuff after Singer wraps the prequel trilogy.

 

[def28]

Same here. If Deadpool hits, X-Force will definitely be a priority. And I highly doubt that will be connected to anything with their main X-Men IP. At that point I'd say they might as well have Gambit on X-Force as well. At least their films set in the present can have some sort of connectivity that way.

 

[Eddie]

For what it's worth, Devin Faraci said on Twitter awhile back that he'd heard Deadpool and Gambit were being approached as standalone films vaguely connected to X-Men more so than X-MEN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE stuff. Well that's definitely how Deadpool was approached...

coughIstillsayMarvelandFoxshouldworktogetheronthisstuffsotheycanactuallyshareassetslikeTaskmaster,AlphaFlight,SavageLand,etc.cough

Pardon me, dreadful cough going around.

 

[def28]

One of these days...

 

[Eddie]

More Tim Miller certainly couldn't hurt. He has ties to Marvel (worked on Thor: The Dark World) and he really wanted to use Taskmaster (as did Ryan). The "Fox should never work with Marvel" crowd has never made much sense. Even the creative team on Deadpool would have used Marvel Studios IP if they could. Cooperation should be the goal (though FF should probably outright revert, as you can easily get 2-3 films per year with just the Mutants).

 

[def28]

Reynolds really wants to use Death as well. Not sure how the rights work with a character like that since there are so many interpretations.

 

[Eddie]

That one could be tricky since Death is a public domain concept that Marvel has a specific version of. I would imagine using "Death" wouldn't be an issue, but specific attributes of Lady Death (the Marvel Death, not the animated film) might be Marvel. With Thanos in the MCU, we'll see an MCU adaptation of her soon. Deadpool 2: Electric Boogaloo might want to stay away from her. Unless some sharing of the toys goes on, that is...

 

[AgentGojiraRgr]

So based on the film, is this set in the Days of Future Past future or something completely different?

 

[Eddie]

Ryan Reynolds says he thinks it's its own thing. Frankly, that would make a certain amount of sense. This Wade Wilson is roughly forty years younger than the Origins version, and the time travel shouldn't have really erased the pre 70's Origin stuff. Characters born prior to that point (like Wade) shouldn't have been born later due to time travel.

That said, there are loads of inconsistencies even after the time travel, so it's whatever. Deadpool is a fourth wall breaking character, so continuity isn't really that relevant to him. He just don't give a f***.

 

[2kt09]

So based on the film, is this set in the Days of Future Past future or something completely different?

It's not set in 2023 to my knowledge. It would reason to exist within the continuity First Class established.
Would love to see how meta the Origins references are, although maybe the marketing outside the movie's trailers and clips is all there is to it.

 

[Avid Avenger]

I'd say it's set in the same timeline as of the end of DoFP. Why put it in a timeline where everything has been erased/changed?

TBH, even Deadpool's confused.

 

[TheVileOne]

But why X-Force instead of Deadpool 2?

 

[Tymminator]

They used the old school blackbird X-jet, had several pop culture modern references, modern cell phones, so overall I think all signs point to more or less modern setting.

 

[Smilodon]

I'm pretty sure when Reynolds means that Deadpool is it's own thing, he means that the story is kinda independent the main dealings of the X-Men and not necessarily ignoring what's been established and reestablished in the Singer films. It's a very intimate and small story so there hasn't really been a clash with the main X-Men films, but I'm sure once Ryan and co. start to include more notable characters, we'll see some loose connections established with some of the other X-Men stuff.

But like some of the MCU stuff, all the non-Avengers stuff basically only acknowledge that Battle of New York/Sokovia happened, so really all Ryan and co. would need to do if they ever kinda needed to establish a connection would be a throwaway line like, "Oh yeah, like how Magneto dropped a stadium in 1973. That happened." and move on with their story as long as it doesn't directly contradict something big that the main films are doing/characters that are being used.

 

[LostSon88]

The continuity in Deadpool is post-DOFP and Apocalypse when everythings changed.

That's how I explain away how different Collosus looks and speaks and why the X-Mansion looks different.

This version of Wade Wilson was never part of a team of mercenaries with Wolverine because it never happened. Plus, the Origins version of Wade already had his mutant abilities (somewhat) while this Wade had his mutant abilities basically extracted from him by force.

Again, the easiest way to explain it away, DOFP and (eventually) Apocalypse gave the entire X-Men movie universe a clean slate.

 

[Havok83]

I would say this would fit in after X3 bc Collosus comes across as an adult and veteran Xmen here whereas in that film he was still a teenager/trainee

 

[storyteller]

I say X-men Origins was Wolverine trying to reconcile his returning memories but none of it happened.

 

[Vaibow]

How about Deadpool is the first film of an alternate universe/time line where we have yet to meet any other x men characters and guess what, they look a lot like they do in the comics. Deadpool breaks the fourth wall, he could mention DC if he wanted too.

 

[Eddie]

How about Deadpool is the first film of an alternate universe/time line where we have yet to meet any other x men characters and guess what, they look a lot like they do in the comics. Deadpool breaks the fourth wall, he could mention DC if he wanted too.

Hey, why the heck not? Legion is said to be in a parallel universe where Mutants are mostly unknown. Fox IS apparently exploring that sort of idea. Why not go "multiversal"? Hell, maybe it could open the door to sharing some toys...

 

[LostSon88]

I would say this would fit in after X3 bc Collosus comes across as an adult and veteran Xmen here whereas in that film he was still a teenager/trainee

See but again, the events in DOFP completely wiped X3 from existence. So everything from that continuity no longer happens.

Just as was established at the end of DOFP with Wolverine no longer being recruited by the X-Men as he was in X1, the entire context of how Colossus becomes a member is completely different.

 

[Havok83]

See but again, the events in DOFP completely wiped X3 from existence. So everything from that continuity no longer happens.

Just as was established at the end of DOFP with Wolverine no longer being recruited by the X-Men as he was in X1, the entire context of how Colossus becomes a member is completely different.

Ignoring Apocalypse completely screwing up Angel's age (hopefully thats explained in film), DOFP shouldnt alter that. Collosus came across as a grown man here, not a teenager. X3 may no longer exist in this continuity but it would have taken place in 2006. Im saying this film takes place after that year. It seems alot closer to the present