Daredevil Deborah Ann Woll is Karen Page

[Slushy]

Glad she was able to find work so quick!

 

[Raiden]

She's definitely the actor or actress I look forward the most in this series. Hopefully they won't go the exact same route as the Karen Page took in the comic book.

 

[cherokeesam]

She's definitely the actor or actress I look forward the most in this series. Hopefully they won't go the exact same route as the Karen Page took in the comic book.

Why not? Netflix is the opportunity for Marvel Studios to do dark 'n' gritty, and it doesn't get any grittier than Frank Miller and Daredevil. I fully expect to see the Born Again storyline, and Karen Page to become one of the most tragic figures in the MCU (deservedly so). Bring on the drama!

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Of course it won't be a direct adaptation of any specific comic arc. They have the opportunity to do something new and innovative and they'll run with it ("they" being the director, writers and actors) I'm really excited to see what they come up with.

 

[Dark Raven]

Why not? Netflix is the opportunity for Marvel Studios to do dark 'n' gritty, and it doesn't get any grittier than Frank Miller and Daredevil. I fully expect to see the Born Again storyline, and Karen Page to become one of the most tragic figures in the MCU (deservedly so). Bring on the drama!

If they do that, it shouldn't be for a while - at least for a few seasons, for it to be more meaningful. If she exposes DD in the 1st season, that's like having Cap and Iron Man going into Civil War mode when they first meet in Avengers 1.

 

[Human Torch]

Her casting is..."ok",I guess.


I can't see them taking her down quite as dark a road as the comics.(Nor should they IMO)

 

[Endeavor]

Well that pic is confirmation this isn't set in the 70's... good.

 

[cherokeesam]

If they do that, it shouldn't be for a while - at least for a few seasons, for it to be more meaningful. If she exposes DD in the 1st season, that's like having Cap and Iron Man going into Civil War mode when they first meet in Avengers 1.

I don't think its an apt analogy....DD has, what, 12, 16 hour-long episodes? Matt could already have a comparatively "long" and meaningful career as Hornyhead by, say, Ep. 10. Segue into a Born Again season finale, and there ya go.

 

[gkokujin]

why is everyone against her "taking a dark road" or being like she is "in the comics"

if she wasn't that would be ******ed. For once we have a TV show that can play close to the source and everyone balks at the idea.

ITS DAREDEVIL MAN, I'm JUST FREAKING HAPPY WE HAVE THIS AS A THING

 

[Human Torch]

I thought it was overkill in the books,and I feel the same for the show.

I doubt they can or will go the full- Porn star,heroin addict,skid row prostitute,gets AIDS,sells DD out,gets murdered.Nor should they,IMO.

I think they can,and probably will, pay homage to some of that,though.Just not go to the extreme.(She'll probably have a substance abuse problem or something along that line,I'm guessing)

 

[Mike Murdock]

While I probably wouldn't have her get murdered (for reasons unrelated to this topic), I think that account is dramatically superficial and underestimates the passage of time. Karen Page gets addicted to heroin in 1986 and gets killed in 1999. In those thirteen years, she became a strong female character, dated Matt again for a little while, ran a legal clinic to help the disadvantaged, became a radio host, an activist, etc. She also never actually had AIDS.

I think Born Again remains one of the best Daredevil stories of all time and I would prefer an adaptation at some point. For those who think it assassinated Karen Page's character, I'll point out that she hadn't been a character for years (which is probably why Frank Miller thought it was a good idea to use her in this storyline - particularly since Heather Glenn was dead). But it led to a good story. And, frankly, that's all that matters. I agree Karen shouldn't become an addict for the sake of becoming an addict. But in service of a story, I think it's perfectly fine.

 

[Dark Raven]

I thought it was overkill in the books,and I feel the same for the show.

I doubt they can or will go the full- Porn star,heroin addict,skid row prostitute,gets AIDS,sells DD out,gets murdered.Nor should they,IMO.

I think they can,and probably will, pay homage to some of that,though.Just not go to the extreme.(She'll probably have a substance abuse problem or something along that line,I'm guessing)

I'd say skip porn star, gets AIDS, gets murdered. She could be a heroin addict, turns to prostitution to fuel her habit and sells out DD. She could even get an STD at some point (which would be understandable) but no need for AIDS.

But how would she become an addict in the first place? Through taking it herself, or someone injecting her with the drug, and then she becomes dependent on it herself?

I think Karen going through all of that has the potential for some great acting from Deborah Ann Woll, and a possible Emmy turn. Provided of course, she can pull all of this off.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I hope to hell they don't think they can get away with the idea of accidental injection making someone a heroin addict. It's too school assembly special for something like this. Generally speaking, heroin addicts are looking to escape problems or looking for a good time.

Honestly, Matt's been pretty manipulative in the past (there's a good argument that he led to Heather Glenn's suicide). I'd have no problem with Matt being the (inadvertent) driver towards Karen's addiction. It can almost be done as an act of rebellion against Matt's moralistic thinking.

 

[the gael]

The Karen Page from the 60's was quite a boring damsel in distress character. For me, Born again didn't kill her, it gave the character some depth. She wasn't the perfect secretary in love with her employer who was saved by Daredevil every issues anymore. She was a woman who wasn't perfect, made many mistakes, but who has the strength to repair them. She wasn't the damsel in distress anymore but the partner. During the Nocenti and the Kesel years, she was very strong and interesting.

On the other hand, I would stay away from AIDS and the murder at the hand of Bullseye. It bring nothing to the character. It's just too much.

 

[Human Torch]

If I remember,she left the book to become an actress and then apparently got involved in the "wrong kind" of movie business.Then she reappeared -I wanna say late 80's?- as an advocate against porn.I kinda stopped reading comics around the mid 90's so I'm not really sure how the heroin thing got started.

But,I'd say they could have her go off to Hollywood at the end of a season and come back next season having some form of addiction from her "brief" attempt at fame.Would provide some good drama.

I don't really wanna see her sell DD out.I think Feige mentioned something about wanting to play with a character that had a secret ID (since there is a decided lack of them in the MCU) a few years back.I always thought DD was a bad character to expose,since his day job as a lawyer would be ruined.

 

[Dark Raven]

Incidentally, Karen Page was played in the 2003 DD movie by Ellen Pompeo, who is better known now for Grey's Anatomy.

 

[BatsDC]

Just thought I'd revive this - I really liked Karen in this series. She was genuinely a good person in an awful situation, and her getting Matt the balloon was adorable.

 

[Legendver2]

[Spoilerific post, you are warned]

I think they reversed Karen's storyline. Instead of having her becoming an actress and getting involved with the wrong type of acting in the future, I believe she probably had a [BLACKOUT]sex tape in her teen yrs, as hinted by her to Ben Ulrich that she made some mistakes an 18 yr old would make.[/BLACKOUT] Also since she didn't start off as the happy go lucky damsel secretary in the comics, but already starting the series with a secret but darker history, I don't see her abandoning her crusade to help the helpless to become an actress. What I can see is the [BLACKOUT]fallout of her killing Wesley[/BLACKOUT] can potentially lead her to substance abuse, namely alcohol, that can lead her down a dark path, but I think they'll keep the [BLACKOUT]sex on film stuff[/BLACKOUT] as part of her back story instead.

 

[the last son]

Chick got a mustache. Good actress though.

 

[djsunyc]

she looked fine as hell in this series but even moreso, showed some serious acting chops and was very charismatic on screen.

 

[The Infernal]

Really liked Woll in the role. I watched some True Blood now and again and like her in that. Thought she pulled off the role admirably. She wasn't simply a love interest, but managed to keep her own story throughout. I'm really interested to see what they do with her in the future.

Personally I don't think she needs to be killed like the comics, but I could see some form of substance abuse or alcoholism spiralling out of her guilt over Wesley and maybe the details of her past coming to haunt her (perhaps it was a sex tape?). I don't see why it can't be dark at times, though I don't think it's necessary she gets killed, but if that felt like the appropriate ending of her story line as they develop it in the future then I could deal with that.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Personally I don't think she needs to be killed like the comics, but I could see some form of substance abuse or alcoholism spiralling out of her guilt over Wesley and maybe the details of her past coming to haunt her (perhaps it was a sex tape?). I don't see why it can't be dark at times, though I don't think it's necessary she gets killed, but if that felt like the appropriate ending of her story line as they develop it in the future then I could deal with that.

Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier as well, and I agree with you almost word for word. While I'd, of course, like to see the producers continue using the source material as a point of reference, they need not be a slave to the details of every major story arc.

she looked fine as hell in this series but even moreso, showed some serious acting chops and was very charismatic on screen.

 

[Loki882]

They could keep the drug addiction/mental stability stuff (that's interesting). But I'd prefer that they leave out the porn/sex tape stuff. Don't get me wrong, it worked well enough in Born Again. But it doesn't need to be here.

 

[Silvermoth]

Spoiler

I just love that they didn't fridge her. I really hope they don't fall back on that trope because

Karen was my favourite part in this. I just loved her strength and that she didn't just get the damsel in distress role or the love interest.

She was incredible in her own right and a true hero. I can't wait to see more of her

 

[Kane52630]

She was great.