Did Peter (technically) kill Brock?

[AIRWOLF]

If you mean in technical sense, than yeah Peter did threw the bomb and it took a man's life, so he is in a way responsible. But in another sense, Eddie did throw himself into the hands of death so its partially his fault too. I feel so sorry for Eddie, the guy got incinerated and no one would ever know what happened to him, except for Peter.

 

[Dark Spidey]

I don't buy that "technical" crap.

So if you dropped a banana skin on the floor. Then like a week later someone came along, slipped on it and broke their neck... technically you would be responsible?

Bull****.

 

[Spiderine]

Brock was the idiot who lunged in after the symbiote. Peter had already saved that idiot once. So why are we even having this discussion.

 

[pedro parkero]

I don't buy that "technical" crap.

So if you dropped a banana skin on the floor. Then like a week later someone came along, slipped on it and broke their neck... technically you would be responsible?

Bull****.

Well, yes. Duh. That's why we are taught to never just drop our garbage on the floor in the first place. Use the trashbin, like the rest of us mongrels...

 

[Dark Spidey]

Well, yes. Duh. That's why we are taught to never just drop our garbage on the floor in the first place. Use the trashbin, like the rest of us mongrels...

Luckily I don't eat banana's myself lol! t:

 

[Secret_Riddle]

The best analogy I can come up with is this:
Imagine a wild dog (or an escaped lion from the zoo) running rampage on the streets maiming folk. An armed citizen finally comes to the rescue. However just as he is about to shoot, the animal's owner jumps in an attempt to save the animal (rightly or wrongly), and both animal and owner are killed.

Wouldn't the shooter now be guilty of manslaughter (or whatever the equivalent would be)?

No, the owner jumped into harms way, it was an intentional move on the part of the pet owner...or brock.

Manslaughter would be like..if the armed citizen was drunk so he missed the lion and hit someone.

 

[dodus]

I feel so sorry for Eddie, the guy got incinerated and no one would ever know what happened to him, except for Peter.

That's a good point...everyone knew what was going on with Octavius, and Norman had Harry and we all know how that turned out, but no one knew Eddie had turned into Venom except Peter and MJ, and it didn't seem like they were too concerned with setting the record straight afterward.

 

[spideyman101]

First of all, killing someone who has murdered someone is not wrong and shouldn't be punishable...

but my opinion is that it IS wrong for just the average Joe to take capital punishment into their own hands... the government have the responsibility of punishing the murder by death... problem is, they don't.

Eddie didn't kill anyone at that point, so my opinion is he shouldn't have been killed... BUT since it was an accident, I don't see how Peter could be blamed for manslaughter, seeing as Brock jumped in the way... but, of course, in situations like this, the cops (if they heard of the situation) would have the right to arrest him and trial him honostly ONLY if they didn't have the full story. Court's are for getting the full story (not bribing your way out of jail )

so, if I was a cop, I'd probobly arrest Peter... but if I would have been a witness and saw that it was Eddie that jumped in the way, then I wouldn't.

That's just my opinion and I know capital punishment is a VERY contriversial subject these days, but seriously. If someone takes another's life, then they should be guilty and have their life taken. If our government would do that, this world would be much safer... example... if you planned on killing someone, would you be willing to do it if you knew you'd be killed for it? most wouldn't, for fear... (except the occasional physco)... but... as Peter said "We always have a choice."

That's whats wrong with our government today is that they think that, for example, if you have something stolen from you, then the theif must pay the government back, not the victim. This makes the government rich, and we get less than what we started out with! If the government would punish theives by making them pay the victim 4 to 7 times as much as they stole, I doubt there would be as many thieves!

If the government would use these methods, then I'd almost guarentee 100% that we'd have a more peacefull ciziety.

 

[SlyGuyTtjn]

The cops wouldn't arrest Spider-man. They all cheered when he swung in, and then they're not gonna say "Thanks for stopping the two bad men trying to kill everyone... But you're under arrest."

 

[Carnage921]

Exactly! What with all this Force-pull crap? We even see Harry using what I took to be a motion sensor during his first fight with Peter.

I haven't seen the movie since opening day but i thought that there was like a button on the sky-stick that you press with your foot to make the bomb come up.

 

[fallenAngel]

Nobody would even know that Brock was dead, except Peter. No one else knew who he was, or knew that he was Venom.

and even if it wasn't really Peters fault, I would like to think that he would feel guilty about it. Just like he would feel guilty about Harry dying. Even if Brock was a sleazball, it was clear by Peters expression that he really didn't want to hurt Brock.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I haven't seen the movie since opening day but i thought that there was like a button on the sky-stick that you press with your foot to make the bomb come up.

No, it was motion sensor.

 

[Dragon]

the symbiote didn't choose anything, it merely placed itself on the closest available person.

The symbiote, as you mentioned is SENTIENT. It thinks. It makes decisions. It knew when to attack Peter. It also sensed Eddie's hatred and knew he was the perfect vessel for revenge on Peter.

generally, if you detonate an explosive device in the viscinity of civilians and one is caught in the blast, you are responsible for their death.

Eddie was clear of the blast. He jumped into the killzone.

we've seen in the first film how fast spidey is cabaple of reacting and ontop of that his spidersense failed to warn him of the danger of a bystander about to get blown up, even though it managed to do exactly the same thing in the first film before the goblin showed up at the world's fair.

Peter isn't faster than an explosion. If he was, he'd have dodged the Goblin's pumpkin bomb in the final fight of Spidey 1.

And his spidey sense didn't warn Peter about the bombing at the Unity Festival. It just warned him of a dangerous presence, prior to the goblin's smoke trail being seen. If it had, Peter would've already been changing into his costume.

 

[Dragon]

Eddie didn't kill anyone at that point, so my opinion is he shouldn't have been killed...

He killed Harry, and injured God knows how many police men.

BUT since it was an accident, I don't see how Peter could be blamed for manslaughter, seeing as Brock jumped in the way... but, of course, in situations like this, the cops (if they heard of the situation) would have the right to arrest him and trial him honostly ONLY if they didn't have the full story. Court's are for getting the full story (not bribing your way out of jail )

so, if I was a cop, I'd probobly arrest Peter... but if I would have been a witness and saw that it was Eddie that jumped in the way, then I wouldn't.

They'd have no grounds to arrest Peter, since there was no body or evidence of a crime. That is, even if Spider-Man would allow himself to be arrested.

 

[SlyGuyTtjn]

The symbiote, as you mentioned is SENTIENT. It thinks. It makes decisions. It knew when to attack Peter. It also sensed Eddie's hatred and knew he was the perfect vessel for revenge on Peter.



Eddie was clear of the blast. He jumped into the killzone.



Peter isn't faster than an explosion. If he was, he'd have dodged the Goblin's pumpkin bomb in the final fight of Spidey 1.

And his spidey sense didn't warn Peter about the bombing at the Unity Festival. It just warned him of a dangerous presence, prior to the goblin's smoke trail being seen. If it had, Peter would've already been changing into his costume.

Thanks for saying what I wanted to say.. Good points. lol t:


Anyways, Peter dodged a pumpkin bomb in Harry's mansion... soo.. Don't know where that fits in.

 

[Dragon]

Thanks for saying what I wanted to say.. Good points. lol t:

Thanks. t:

Anyways, Peter dodged a pumpkin bomb in Harry's mansion... soo.. Don't know where that fits in.

He dodged the bomb toss in Spidey 3- He was on his feet and on balance. In Spidey 1 he was off balance, recovering from a hard fall- the bomb was already exploding before he could react.

 

[Donald Thomas]

I also don't like the fact that Spidey let Sandman get away. He should have said "I forgive you. I still have to bring you in." Sandman evades Peter, then gets away. That would have made more sense.

Aloha,
Eddie killed himself. Peter accepted the fact that short of some super powered vacuum and container, he could not take in the Sandman.He thought he killed him by dissolving him with water but that didin't work.In the comiocs,he has never been able to web him up and capture him.So it's not a case of letting him get away as much as accepting that he would have to have some help from some sort of containment device to ever capture Sandman.
Spidey rules

 

[The Joker]

All the villains' deaths have been self inflicted. Both intentionally and unintentionally.

 

[spideyman101]

He killed Harry, and injured God knows how many police men.



They'd have no grounds to arrest Peter, since there was no body or evidence of a crime. That is, even if Spider-Man would allow himself to be arrested.

oops... sorry. I must be VERY tired. I forgot he killed Harry.

*goes to bed*
*comes back after a few hours*

well... to answer you and SlyGuyTtjn, good point...

 

[Dragon]

All the villains' deaths have been self inflicted. Both intentionally and unintentionally.

It's the return of Doc Ock!!!

 

[The Joker]

It's the return of Doc Ock!!!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Peter didn't intentanally kill Brock. Brock jumped in the Symbiote and exploded with Brock. why do you think Peter yelled "Eddie!!!". If Peter tried to kill Brock then he would have killed Brock right then in there.

 

[Dragon]

Ahh... One of the greatest most definitive Spider-Man arcs EVER. If only we were seeing this in both the comics and movies these days.

 

[Venomfan]

Peter isn't faster than an explosion.

id like to think hes a heck of a lot quicker then an average dude jumping towards one though

 

[Bnightwing]

if you looked down when the pumpkin bomb u say some venom at the bottom left over