🌎 Discussion: Online Piracy, AI, Net Neutrality, Killswitch, and Other Internet Issues II

[Bim]

Funny, i told someone after the Boston attacks i had a feeling they might try and get this regulation of internet again... and here we go.

There's a petition here where u can make your voice heard, whether you live in the USA or somewhere else: https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=9048

 

[enterthemadness]

to ask for your facebook passwords?

gonna be a record of people telling employers off if this passes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...loyers-asking-Facebook-passwords-blocked.html

 

[SuperT]

Obama has already stated repeatedly that he's going to veto it as it is currently because he says it gives way too much power to companies and doesn't protect privacy enough.

It's a pretty pointless bill at this stage.

 

[Victarion]

I sent letters to my reps regardless.

 

[Fenrir]

I can't wait for these old geezer dinosaurs in the Senate and the House to become extinct and for some fresh, more technically proficient blood to take over who actually understand how the internet and online privacy mechanisms work before drafting asinine bills.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Obama has already stated repeatedly that he's going to veto it as it is currently because he says it gives way too much power to companies and doesn't protect privacy enough.

It's a pretty pointless bill at this stage.

The problem is that both Dems and Repubs REALLY want this to go through. They tried to get this passed last year, and are at it again. We can't sit back and hope that Obama (or any other president if it comes around again) will keep their promise of vetoing it (there are countless reasons why one might). This bill should never even reach his desk.

Sitting back quietly and saying "oh, its nothing, Obama will veto it" is NOT how the government is supposed to work. It takes less than a minute to sign a petition, call your representatives, etc. There's no excuse not to fight this bill.

http://cispapetition.org/

 

[wiegeabo]

So, Iron Maiden sees that their music is being pirated.
They hire a bittorrent research firm to determine where the piracy is worst.
Then they go tour in those countries and make millions.
Wait...what?!
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/24/iron-maiden-makes-millions-by.html


TV shows get pirated constantly.
Netflix hires a bittorrent research firm to determine what shows get pirated the most.
Then they license Game of Thrones (top pirated show) and, along with HBO, make money.
But...but...but piracy is bad!


Any company that says piracy hurts them is not only using the wrong term, since it's actually infringement, but is also a company that isn't capitalizing on 'piracy' as a cheap form of market research.

Instead of spending millions in a losing battle, causing prices to go up. They could be spending a fraction of the money and increase their profits while keeping prices down.

 

[Tanin]

Netflix doesn't gave game of thrones.

 

[Mike_D202]

So, Iron Maiden sees that their music is being pirated.
They hire a bittorrent research firm to determine where the piracy is worst.
Then they go tour in those countries and make millions.
Wait...what?!
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/24/iron-maiden-makes-millions-by.html


TV shows get pirated constantly.
Netflix hires a bittorrent research firm to determine what shows get pirated the most.
Then they license Game of Thrones (top pirated show) and, along with HBO, make money.
But...but...but piracy is bad!


Any company that says piracy hurts them is not only using the wrong term, since it's actually infringement, but is also a company that isn't capitalizing on 'piracy' as a cheap form of market research.

Instead of spending millions in a losing battle, causing prices to go up. They could be spending a fraction of the money and increase their profits while keeping prices down.

I remember a few times that some studio execs actually was quoted as saying that piracy is helping the business and giving exposure (even some film directors and music artists use torrent sites to circulate the product), but quickly retracted their statements LOL.

 

[wiegeabo]

you're right. I read the article wrong.

Netflix is using torrent sites to see what the most torrented shows are so they can figure out what to license. It just mentioned Thrones as being the top pirated show.

 

[Tanin]

Baiting titles sucks

 

[enterthemadness]

I remember a few times that some studio execs actually was quoted as saying that piracy is helping the business and giving exposure (even some film directors and music artists use torrent sites to circulate the product), but quickly retracted their statements LOL.

Piracy has killed the direct to dvd action market though. Scott Adkins has confirmed this. How years and years ago filming would be 7 or 8 weeks. Now it's 2, 3, or 4 weeks for a dvd action film. I don't know if Piracy would be 100% to blame or not though...but it's a factor. But I think it's use as a scapegoat. Esp for movie theaters. ****, lower your ticket and food prices and more people will come.

Well...and people no longer renting and going VOD.

I know Ninja II: Shadow of a Tear isn't direct to dvd. As it's DIRECT TO ITUNES. Hit Itunes last week on the 17th? And direct to dvd/blu on 31st. Stars Scott Adkins. Why it couldn't also hit google play...

 

[enterthemadness]

Well.....we are all ****ed.


http://news.yahoo.com/u-appeals-court-kills-net-neutrality-152413671.html


Court kills Net Neutrality.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

With the mega-powerful companies involved in fighting net neutrality...I'm surprised it took this long.

 

[antsman41]

Great...

We're ****ed.

 

[wiegeabo]

Wow. The court actually believed there's a strong marketplace for broadband choices?

It's on oligopoly. And in some locations, there is literally only one choice.

 

[enterthemadness]

Wow. The court actually believed there's a strong marketplace for broadband choices?

It's on oligopoly. And in some locations, there is literally only one choice.

Only Time Warner here and DirecTV for internet. Suddenlink (which has the TiVo) only deals with customers in New Bern, 30 minutes away.

 

[Darthphere]

Comcast already does this. I can count on my hands how many times I've gotten HD on Netflix in the last year.

 

[enterthemadness]

Comcast already does this. I can count on my hands how many times I've gotten HD on Netflix in the last year.

When Time Warner does this, Imma go in person and complain, and they will just be like . I tried...I've signed petitions, I've shared stories, I did what I could to get word out, but it meant **** in the end.

I have a friend on Facebook, we are both Libertarians. But there's no ''Libertarian/libertarian'' answer here. Because there's really no ****ing choice for internet access. There's no free ****ing market for access in areas. Looking in comments sections of articles, and it's clear a lot of people only have 1 or 2 options for internet access at high speeds.

Looks like Netflix is gonna have to increase prices on their end now to compete....

 

[redfirebird2008]

Wow. The court actually believed there's a strong marketplace for broadband choices?

It's on oligopoly. And in some locations, there is literally only one choice.

Yep, really bad news. The ISP's should not also have content for sale. That's a massive conflict of interest.

 

[wiegeabo]

yeah. Distributors shouldn't own the only distribution lines.

 

[redfirebird2008]

yeah. Distributors shouldn't own the only distribution lines.

Yep, there was a good reason the Hollywood studios aren't allowed to have total control over movie theaters anymore. Supreme Court broke up that racket in 1948.

Unfortunately it seems there is too much corruption in our government today (in all three branches) to have a decent policy implemented on this issue.

Fun (or not so fun) fact. The head of the FCC in 2002 who decided to not include the Internet as part of telecommunications (ie subject to common carrier laws)? He is now the head lobbyist for the cable and telecommunications companies. Sigh.

 

[mikey1974]

my question is - can this be appealed? I mean,can this still be fought? or is it dead and done?

 

[craigdbfan]

Absolutely disgusting.

 

[enterthemadness]

my question is - can this be appealed? I mean,can this still be fought? or is it dead and done?

Yes, but they (FCC) need to hurry.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...uling-mean-the-end-of-the-internet-maybe.html

This is bad, it's a possible scenario. One that pisses me off.

You see, ISPs hate the idea that they’re nothing more than providers of “dumb pipes.” Now that they are free from any legal restraints, the ISPs will try to get Internet companies to pay extra tolls—and threaten to block or delay them if they don’t. Exclusive deals could become the norm, with AT&T exclusively bringing you Netflix, while Comcast is the sole source for YouTube.

Yes. The one thing, that aforementioned silver lining, is that the FCC still has the power and ability to turn this all around.
New FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler recently stated that the FCC must be able to protect broadband users and preserve the Internet’s fundamental open architecture. Now he has no other choice but to reassert the FCC’s clear authority over our nation’s communications infrastructure.
Will he do it? Not without a lot of political pressure—enough political pressure to counteract the onslaught of industry lobbyists (and hired guns and sketchy front groups) about to descend on his office.