Discussion: The 2024 Presidential Primaries (Both Parties)

[MessiahDecoy123]

Discuss the primaries here.

 

[InCali]

Discuss the primaries here.

Thanks for creating this thread......but.....

OOOOOOOKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY......

Just got done watching the repub "debate" and am focusing on the second letter of the above line.

Did Pence just come off as the reasonable one on stage?? I think my head is gonna explode.....

So, here's the thing.....I never thought I'd think this, but this Ramaswamy guy gets the nod of being the biggest tool of all the tools on stage. He had some tough competition, but takes home the gold.

One of the hottest messes I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Anyone got a rusty nail? I have an itch in my eardrums and eyeballs.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

 

[squeekness]

MSNBC commentators said that of all the candidates only Nikki Haily and Pence were the only two that they could actually picture belonging in the Oval office. Everyone else were little more than clowns and idiots. I don't see Pence getting the nomination because too many think he failed them on Jan 6th.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Daily Kos - Republican debate winners and losers

Daily Kos - Was There a Clear Debate Winner? Yes! — The Week in Editorial Cartoons, Part 1 (Update x 4)

Daily Kos - The GOP is a Pro-Criminal Trump Cult that Wants to Put a Felon in the White House (Fox News Debate)

 

[squeekness]

"Ramasmarmy", lol....

 

[Lily Adler]

Let's watch a bunch of bootlickers debate on who should be Trump's VP.

 

[Iceman]

Thanks for creating this thread......but.....

OOOOOOOKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY......

Just got done watching the repub "debate" and am focusing on the second letter of the above line.

Did Pence just come off as the reasonable one on stage?? I think my head is gonna explode.....

So, here's the thing.....I never thought I'd think this, but this Ramaswamy guy gets the nod of being the biggest tool of all the tools on stage. He had some tough competition, but takes home the gold.

One of the hottest messes I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Anyone got a rusty nail? I have an itch in my eardrums and eyeballs.

It’s all relative. Pence might be a disaster but will look almost reasonable when compared to the others up there.

 

[squeekness]

Let's watch a bunch of bootlickers debate on who should be Trump's VP.

Only an idiot would want that job. The last one almost got hanged, lol

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[Iceman]

Only an idiot would want that job. The last one almost got hanged, lol

Yep, not going to end well for whoever gets it.

 

[squeekness]

Might need a significant pay raise, lol.

 

[squeekness]

 

[:eek:]

Poll: Overwhelming majorities express concerns about Biden, Trump ahead of 2024 race

Trump's lead has expanded in the GOP presidential contest, while Biden and Trump are tied in a hypothetical general election matchup.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[squeekness]

It would be nice if decent Democrat stepped into the race.

 

[Sithborg]

No one is dumb enough to primary a sitting president.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Ted Kennedy helped kill the Carter administration by running against him in 1980, which is what rightwing conspiracist sociopath Robert F. Kennedy is trying to do now to Biden. So no, there is no upside to primarying an incumbent president.

Anyway, it'll be close, unless the third party percentage shoots up and takes votes away from the R candidate or Biden. Biden's % likely peaked in 2020 like Obama peaked in 2008.

Popular Vote % (2004-2022)​
Year & President​	House Ds​	D Presidential Ticket​		House Rs​	R Presidential Ticket​
2004 Bush​	46.6%​	48.3%​		49.2%​	50.7%​
2006 Bush​	52.0%​	​		44.1%​	​
2008 Bush​	52.9%​	52.9%​	​	42.4%​	45.6%​
2010 Obama​	44.8%​	​	​	51.4%​	​
2012¹ Obama​	48.4%​	51.0%​	​	47.1%​	47.1%​
2014 Obama​	44.9%​	​	​	50.7%​	​
2016² Obama​	47.3%​	48.0%​	​	48.3%​	45.9%​
2018 Trump​	52.9%​	​		44.3%​	​
2020 Trump​	50.3%​	51.3%​	​	47.2%​	46.8%​
2022 Biden​	47.3%​	​	​	50.0%​	​
average (midterm)	48.4%​			48.1%​
average (all)​	48.7%​	​	​	47.5%​	​
average (pres.)​	49.1%​	50.3%​	​	46.9%​	47.2%​

¹ Democrats led the aggregate popular vote for the House in 2012 but Republicans won a majority of seats
² The Clinton/Kaine Democratic ticket led the popular vote for the presidency/vice presidency in 2016 but the Trump/Pence Republican ticket won the electoral college
Sources: Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections, Election Statistics: 1920 to Present | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

 

[squeekness]

Then people should stop complaining about Biden and just wait.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Mike Pence drops out of presidential race

Looks like former vice president Mike Pence is tired of being Donald Trump’s punch line, and he’s quitting the race. I literally laughed upon hearing the news. But at the very least, given the chance to do so, he didn’t join Trump’s coup efforts....

www.dailykos.com

Dean Phillips’s Last-Minute, Long-Shot Quest to Force Democrats to Reconsider Biden

The Minnesota congressman made his presidential bid official in New Hampshire before a crowd of a few dozen people composed largely of journalists and campaign staff.

www.nytimes.com

 

[squeekness]

I don't know anything about Phillips.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[squeekness]

No big loss.

 

[Herofan]

I did think that there were very few people who liked Pence who didn't like Trump more so yes it makes sense that he would get little support or momentum. It also makes sense that he would be surprised at that, that conservatives wouldn't like, be more impressed by more standard social and fiscal conservatism but a lot of conservatives do just prioritize likelihood of winning above all.

 

[squeekness]

I did think that there were very few people who liked Pence who didn't like Trump more so yes it makes sense that he would get little support or momentum. It also makes sense that he would be surprised at that, that conservatives wouldn't like, be more impressed by more standard social and fiscal conservatism but a lot of conservatives do just prioritize likelihood of winning above all.

The GOP has been hijacked by MAGA fanatics.