Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - Part 16

[hippie_hunter]

While I understand it's hard to knock somebody out who is already an incumbent, all I am saying is there has to be some far right person(but not as far as Gohmert) who can run against Gohmert in a primary who might have a shot.

Again, what part of no, said person does not have a shot, are you not understanding? Like seriously, how are you not getting this? Do you not understand that the people you think exist actually do not exist? Do you not understand that it's the crazy hardcore grassroots people that typically vote in primaries and not the more saner/rational people? Tell me what you're not getting here.

It would be nice if the entire country had jungle primaries so places like Texas we could see Gohmert go up against a less extreme Republican(much easier to beat him in a general election then a primary)

It still wouldn't change a thing. In Gohmert's district, Gohmert would still win easily, even with a jungle primary.

But the people of Texas, or at least Gohmert's district aren't unhappy with him. He quite accurately represents the majority of his constituents comically terrible views.

Unless he's found to be corrupt, inept or has a sex scandal they have no reason to vote for a less crazy man.

Now a crazier man... maybe.

Now this guy gets it.

 

[SV Fan]

Again, what part of no, said person does not have a shot, are you not understanding? Like seriously, how are you not getting this? Do you not understand that the people you think exist actually do not exist? Do you not understand that it's the crazy hardcore grassroots people that typically vote in primaries and not the more saner/rational people? Tell me what you're not getting here.

It still wouldn't change a thing. In Gohmert's district, Gohmert would still win easily, even with a jungle primary

I just can't imagine a district, even in Texas where 70% of the people think like Louie Gohmert(especially when you factor in 18.5% is black and 9.5% is hispanic)

 

[Kelly]

Because the Black and Hispanic population in this district are not even registered voters...they have never voted, and probably never will.

 

[SV Fan]

Because the Black and Hispanic population in this district are not even registered voters...they have never voted, and probably never will.

Well given the low turnout results(even in election years) that is rather obvious

On a funny note just looking at the history of that district, they voted for the American(Know Nothing) Party in the 1850s, which basically hated Irish Catholics and Germans and felt them immigrating to the US was a big threat. I guess some things never change, well other then the immigrants. lol

Per Wikipedia:

The Know Nothing movement was an American political movement that operated on a national basis during the mid-1850s. It promised to purify American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativism and anti-Catholic sentiment. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, whom they saw as hostile to republican values and controlled by the Pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, it strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class membership fragmented over the issue of slavery.

Maybe Gohmert should resurrect that Party seems to fit his ideology perfectly.

 

[Kelly]

Well, that seems to be a problem nationwide...and the media seems to be working right with that... The days of Walter Cronkite are gone, and the days of media led ideology is now upon us.

We deserve what we vote for....

 

[hippie_hunter]

I just can't imagine a district, even in Texas where 70% of the people think like Louie Gohmert(especially when you factor in 18.5% is black and 9.5% is hispanic)

And yet he still wins re-election with over 70% of the vote in the general election and often runs unopposed without a Democratic challenger. Again, your points are completely moot. There just aren't enough blacks to counter Gohmert and Hispanic voter turnout is still rather poor. Add in what Kelly said in that many of those people aren't even registered to vote. And do you seriously think that blacks are going to show up for a Republican primary?

You're just blind to a lot of things that do not fit your worldview. The reality is that yes, people like Gohmert can win and win easily. While the majority of people vote rationally, it doesn't mean that they vote logically or smartly for that matter. If this fantasy scenario could possibly happen, it would have happened already.

 

[Thundercrack85]

America is a nation of immigrant hating immigrants.

 

[Motown Marvel]

as troubling of an aspect as it may be that Ted Cruz is in a position to run for President of the United States...that will at least be offset to some degree by the hilariousness that will surely ensue by the fact that Ted Cruz is running for President of the United States. Pleeeeeaaaaase pick Donald Trump as yer running mate!

 

[hippie_hunter]

If Ted Cruz wins the Republican nomination, I'm quitting the Republican Party. There's only so much stupid I can endure.

 

[SV Fan]

The thing I love about Ted Cruz is for any birther out there, Cruz is exactly what they claim Obama is(born in a foreign country to a mother that is American, Dad isn't American).

 

[wiegeabo]

lulz

http://www.tedcruz.com/

 

[souvlaki]

lulz

http://www.tedcruz.com/

Where is the birth certificate!

 

[Kelly]

Oh, hell no I wouldn't vote for Cruz...Socially I disagree with him on a good 95% of his platform... Fiscally he isn't so bad, except that he lets the Social stuff interfere with his fiscal conservatism so that screws that up.

And last, but the biggest thing is....I voted for a guy back in 2008 that had barely a foot in the Senate before running for President, and that sure as hell didn't work out and I said in 2010 that I would never do that again, and I'm certainly not doing that with Cruz.

But who am I kidding, neither of these parties can probably put forth a candidate that I could vote for without holding my nose.

 

[herakles]

Where is the birth certificate!

The thing I love about Ted Cruz is for any birther out there, Cruz is exactly what they claim Obama is(born in a foreign country to a mother that is American, Dad isn't American).

If a "Kenyan" can get away with it then why not a "Canadian"!?? LOL

But seriously all joking a side I THOUGHT you had to be born on what is considered American soil to be eligible to run for President???!!!??? Can someone please explain this to me? I thought Americans born abroad where ineligible.

 

[SV Fan]

But seriously all joking a side I THOUGHT you had to be born on what is considered American soil to be eligible to run for President???!!!??? Can someone please explain this to me? I thought Americans born abroad where ineligible.

If one of your parents is an American citizen and you are born on foreign soil, you still can have American citizenship which is why the whole Obama isn't American because he was born in Kenya, therefore he should not be able to run for President is ridiculous because even if that was true his mother was American so he would have had American citizenship anyways.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If a "Kenyan" can get away with it then why not a "Canadian"!?? LOL

But seriously all joking a side I THOUGHT you had to be born on what is considered American soil to be eligible to run for President???!!!??? Can someone please explain this to me? I thought Americans born abroad where ineligible.

Natural-born citizenship is granted to people who are born as American citizens, it doesn't matter where they are born. Ted Cruz was born as an American citizen due to his American mother. Therefore, he qualifies.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If one of your parents is an American citizen and you are born on foreign soil, you still can have American citizenship which is why the whole Obama isn't American because he was born in Kenya, therefore he should not be able to run for President is ridiculous because even if that was true his mother was American so he would have had American citizenship anyways.

Don't put things like legal facts into this argument.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Please, please, PLEASE let Cruz win the nomination! That would be so freaking funny. Plus I saw on another site that somebody pointed out on his logo it looks like an upside down burning American flag haha

 

[Anita18]

The thing I love about Ted Cruz is for any birther out there, Cruz is exactly what they claim Obama is(born in a foreign country to a mother that is American, Dad isn't American).

Ted Cruz looks white. Duh.

lulz

http://www.tedcruz.com/

I can't. Seriously, I can't.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Please, please, PLEASE let Cruz win the nomination! That would be so freaking funny.

No it really wouldn't. If anything, it would kinda make me hate my fellow man.

 

[SV Fan]

No it really wouldn't. If anything, it would kinda make me hate my fellow man.

It's my belief the Democratic party should go all out and "attack" Cruz saying he is to conservative and list all the things he will do(sort of inline with McCaskill's Akin commercials during the 2012 primary)

By far my favorite political ad in recent history

[YT]ec4t_3vaBMc[/YT]

 

[hippie_hunter]

It's my belief the Democratic party should go all out and "attack" Cruz saying he is to conservative and list all the things he will do(sort of inline with McCaskill's Akin commercials during the 2012 primary)

By far my favorite political ad in recent history

[YT]ec4t_3vaBMc[/YT]

I'm so conflicted over McCaskill's victory in Missouri. On one hand, it was tactically brilliant because she was a doomed candidate who was guaranteed to lose until Todd Akin secured the nomination, which guaranteed her victory. And I admire brilliance. But on the other hand, it was so, so, so dirty.

 

[wiegeabo]

Maybe not admire the dirty things.

 

[SV Fan]

I'm so conflicted over McCaskill's victory in Missouri. On one hand, it was tactically brilliant because she was a doomed candidate who was guaranteed to lose until Todd Akin secured the nomination, which guaranteed her victory. And I admire brilliance. But on the other hand, it was so, so, so dirty.

That ad just cracks me up everytime because it basically broke every single rule of what an "attack" ad should be.

1. It had nice uptempo music
2. It had nice bright vivid colors
3. The pictures of Akin were actually good(and not of him frowning or with a weird facial expression)

But some democrat Super PAc should run similar ads for Cruz in Iowa, to stir a little poop in the punchbowl

 

[NicoSuave]

I'm gonna enjoy the **** out of watching Jon Stewart and his successor absolutely destroy Cruz's campaign over the course of the next year and a half.