Discussion: The Second Amendment

[Carcharodon]

Completely against it. For one thing cars are far more dangerous weapons and kill more people each year.

Granted, but at least cars have a purpose OTHER THAN killing. I'm just saying.

 

[Paradyme]

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This is not good in my mind

Yup, just posted it above. Its a terrible idea.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Granted, but at least cars have a purpose OTHER THAN killing. I'm just saying.

What are you talking about? I use my 40 all the time for every day stuff. It's great to:

Open bottles
Hail a cab
use as a pointer in a buisness meeting
open jammed doors
change lightbulbs

the list just goes on...

 

[Carcharodon]

What are you talking about? I use my 40 all the time for every day stuff. It's great to:

Open bottles
Hail a cab
use as a pointer in a buisness meeting
open jammed doors
change lightbulbs

the list just goes on...

You can use your car to do the same things!

 

[moraldeficiency]

You can use your car to do the same things!

Now you're just being silly, how do you change a light bulb with a car?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Granted, but at least cars have a purpose OTHER THAN killing. I'm just saying.

Guns have other purposes, too.

 

[nite-owl]

What are you talking about? I use my 40 all the time for every day stuff. It's great to:

Open bottles
Hail a cab
use as a pointer in a buisness meeting
open jammed doors
change lightbulbs

the list just goes on...

And don't forget to keep the King of England out of your face.

 

[The Senator]

Guns have other purposes, too.

They're the non-medical equivalent of Enzyte.

 

[moraldeficiency]

And don't forget to keep the King of England out of your face.

Exactely, ever since I came to this country and got a gun you haven't seen that damn king pop up anywhere. That's right, I'm keeping him at bay. YOU'RE WELCOME!

 

[The Senator]

And the handgun I have in my dresser drawer will surely help me fight off the entire U.S. military in case it turns on us.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

They're the non-medical equivalent of Enzyte.

That's expensive cars, not guns.

And the handgun I have in my dresser drawer will surely help me fight off the entire U.S. military in case it turns on us.

It certainly will protect you from an intruder who enters your house attempting to rob, kidnap, or murder. Or you can call the police and tell them to bring the coroner when they eventually get to your house 45 min later.

 

[The Senator]

That's expensive cars, not guns.

You've obviously never seen that one episode of "Family Guy."

It certainly will protect you from an intruder who enters your house attempting to rob, kidnap, or murder. Or you can call the police and tell them to bring the coroner when they eventually get to your house 45 min later.

Hey, I'm not against owning handguns for personal protection, but when people try to argue to me that assault weapons will protect them from a tyrannical government-- which has tanks and nuclear missiles-- I feel the need to roll my eyes.

 

[moraldeficiency]

And the handgun I have in my dresser drawer will surely help me fight off the entire U.S. military in case it turns on us.

If it doesn't you should probably get a bigger gun.

 

[The Senator]

If it doesn't you should probably get a bigger gun.

No no no-- we should allow civilians to own nuclear missiles, rocket launchers, grenades, and every defense system the U.S. military has access to! After all, we have the right to bear arms-- and the Constitution doesn't explicitly state what constitutes "arms."

No problems would come from that.

 

[SuBe]

Sarcasm noted.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

You've obviously never seen that one episode of "Family Guy."

I am very proud of that.

Hey, I'm not against owning handguns for personal protection, but when people try to argue to me that assault weapons will protect them from a tyrannical government-- which has tanks and nuclear missiles-- I feel the need to roll my eyes.

You seem to do a lot of eye rolling. You must get dizzy a lot.

 

[moraldeficiency]

No no no-- we should allow civilians to own nuclear missiles, rocket launchers, grenades, and every defense system the U.S. military has access to! After all, we have the right to bear arms-- and the Constitution doesn't explicitly state what constitutes "arms."

No problems would come from that.

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[Paradyme]

You've obviously never seen that one episode of "Family Guy."



Hey, I'm not against owning handguns for personal protection, but when people try to argue to me that assault weapons will protect them from a tyrannical government-- which has tanks and nuclear missiles-- I feel the need to roll my eyes.

Are you a pacifist? Some people would rather die then give in to a government ready to enslave people. We aren't anywhere near this point but we certainly seem to be on the way. Once the people are left defenseless the government can take full control. It's all baby steps that people need to start seeing. They start with this ban then slowly move to another ban and then another and they make them indefinite to where they have no threat of opposition.

As a nation we have become more civilized and want to try to talk things out before we begin to destroy but sometimes the only way to defend yourself is through force. I hope we never get to that point but you never know. I myself like to be prepared.

 

[Addendum]

The citizens have their guns. The military has their tanks, artillery batteries, rocket launchers, grenades, grenade launchers, a variety of assault rifles, snipers, land mines, missile silos, aircraft (with Vulcan cannons and a variety of missiles and bombs), aircraft carriers, battleships, nuclear subs, and then there's the variety of Special Forces (Force Recon, DEVGRU, Delta Force, SEALs, SWCC, Green Berets, Rangers, Night Stalkers).

Good luck.

 

[Paradyme]

The citizens have their guns. The military has their tanks, artillery batteries, rocket launchers, grenades, grenade launchers, a variety of assault rifles, snipers, land mines, missile silos, aircraft (with Vulcan cannons and a variety of missiles and bombs), aircraft carriers, battleships, nuclear subs, and then there's the variety of Special Forces (Force Recon, DEVGRU, Delta Force, SEALs, SWCC, Green Berets, Rangers, Night Stalkers).

Good luck.

Roll over and give up, is that your outlook on the subject?

Or did I misread your statement?

 

[Addendum]

It's called realism.

Any group that thought they would last against any of the above has the same mindset as those who thought that their "plot" against Fort Dix would be a success

 

[Paradyme]

It's called realism.

Any group that thought they would last against any of the above has the same mindset as those who thought that their "plot" against Fort Dix would be a success

We aren't talking about 6 people against the rest of the nation we are talking about majority of the nation against an army. There is a huge difference. Using nukes against 205,000,000 Americans (assuming of course we have majority of people against the rogue government) wouldn't exactly be the brightest military move.

Look, I doubt that we would ever have to use our weapons against or own soldiers and maybe it would be best to just lay down and die that day because of how heartbreaking it would be.

I believe the second amendment is more for the ability to protect the country against an enemy that has infiltrated us when the military is spread thin. Militia is the last line of defense and when you remove the power from the Militia you are removing a layer of security. You do know why the Japanese didn't invade the U.S. during WW2 right? They believe every American owned a gun and it would be nearly impossible to do so.

The second amendment is protects the people of America and America herself. Assault weapons are the weapons of today. I'm sure if cutlasses and bows and arrows were still widely used they would be after those too.

 

[Paradoxium]

In other words, what Addendum is saying: Firepower.

Man has a point.

 

[Paradyme]

In other words, what Addendum is saying: Firepower.

Man has a point.

He has a point but there are power in numbers and I doubt majority of Americans would sit around and wish to be enslaved. Thats all I'm saying. I have a more positive outlook on the resolve of the American person than some.

 

[Addendum]

Strength in numbers is one thing. Having those numbers behave as one cohesive unit is another thing. Especially when a good majority of the civilian populace lack any form of military training.