Django Unchained - Part 1

[MessiahDecoy123]

This is not the place to really debate these things but just in your point about preferring a "quick" death or quicker as opposed to a life of slavery.

For those in the camps there was nothing quick about their deaths many of them were kept there for years before being executed. Holocaust survivors who survived the camps pretty much had to live with the trauma for the rest of their lives. I personally know this from relatives of mine.

In the end there is only one holocaust that is where the name comes from. So i disagree with spike referring to another incident by that same name. Slavery was a tragedy but it serves no one to try to compare it directly with other tragedies by giving it another tragedy's name.

Well when people take the Holocaust much more seriously than slavery it makes sense to equate the two and imply that both are terribly grave matters not just the Holocaust.

 

[chaseter]

Feudalism was also very terrible. So were the Crusades. And the Trail of Tears.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Genghis Khan was a better human being than Tamerlane because he was less inhumanly brutal. Hurray.

You miss the point of comparing tragedies.

People are trying to marginalize slavery saying it wasn't so bad when compared to the Holocaust.

It's not hard t see why the descendants of American slaves, many of who have researched and imagined the humiliating and painful life of a slave, would find that offensive.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Feudalism was also very terrible. So were the Crusades. And the Trail of Tears.

What's your point?

Is anyone marginalizing those tragedies?

 

[RichardMoore]

You miss the point of comparing tragedies.

People are trying to marginalize slavery saying it wasn't so bad when compared to the Holocaust.

It's not hard t see why the descendants of American slaves, many of who have researched and imagined the humiliating and painful life of a slave, would find that offensive.

Exactly.

I would hope that one thing we can all agree on is that horrific tragedies involving a specific group of people are ALL horrible.

The reason we're discussing slavery and the Holocaust in PARTICULAR is because Spike Lee compared the two in connection with "Django Unchained" and also because Inglorious Basterds, which was about Nazi persecution of the Jews, was directed by the director of "Django Unchained" and because slavery is a big part of "Django Unchained".

The Crusades and the Trail of Tears, as well as the countless other tragedies that have happened over the years, are truly irrelevant to the discussion.

Last I checked, this was a thread about "Django Unchained".

 

[Hypestyle]

the previews and official reviews tend to have a two-race focus on the film- black and white--

but what about the presence of other racial/ethnic groups in the film, circa the mid-19th century- native americans, chinese, mexican..?

 

[Superhero 101]

Just got Back From the movie and it's amazzing!!!! Everything about this film is perfect definitely one of Tarantino's finest!!

10/10

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You miss the point of comparing tragedies.

People are trying to marginalize slavery saying it wasn't so bad when compared to the Holocaust.

It's not hard t see why the descendants of American slaves, many of who have researched and imagined the humiliating and painful life of a slave, would find that offensive.

I am agreeing with you. My post was sarcastic. To point out the difference in scale as if it somehow lessens the sufferings of the smaller group is inane.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Solid flick.

Spoiler

For those of you wondering, Franco Nero's cameo is a fan service.

 

[RockSP]

I remember reading something about Quentin being unsure and apprehensive as to how IB would be received in Germany. The results were Germans loved it because it gave them the opportunity have fun with a very dark part of their history. I wonder if DU might have a similar reaction States side. I don't think Tarantino has ever disrespected cultures, he's certainly never done anything with intentional malice.

How are you certain of that?

 

[Marvolo]

People are ****ing crazy, that is the best film of the year! Didnt feel like 3 hours. Felt more like an hour and a half. It also got a big applause at my screening.

Id give it a 10/10. In a year defined by slight to large disappointments for me this film stands alone as a true blast.

 

[jmc]

How are you certain of that?

You think he has?

 

[RockSP]

I'm not certain that he hasn't...

 

[gwynplaine]

I love how Tarantino uses "La Corsa" (also from the original Django soundtrack, I believe) during the scene where Django faces off with the Brittle/Schaeffer Bros. Awesome scene, and the fact that Foxx is dressed like some kind of Bizarro Little Lord Fauntleroy in it makes it even more great t:

 

[jmc]

I'm not certain that he hasn't...

I don't see any ill will directed towards any persons of a particular race or culture in his movies. If you think he has I'd like to hear some examples.

 

[chesslover]

People are ****ing crazy that is the best film of the year! Didnt feel like 3 hours. Felt more like an hour and a half. It also got a big applause at my screening.

Id give it a 10/10. In a year defined by slight to large disappointments for me this film stands alone as a true blast.

Seconded t:

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I think the Avengers has just been replaced as the most crowd pleasing film of the year.

9/10

 

[gwynplaine]

I like how Tarantino said that Di Caprio was channeling Vincent Price as Calvin Candie, or something along those lines.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Well just saw it and i enjoyed it quite a bit. It wasn't as good as basterds imo but it was pure unfiltered tarrantino and that's what we all wanted to see right?

I can see how the last 3rd or quarter of the film seemed to trail but the length didn't really bother me. The characters were great especially sam jackson who kept bringing down the house.

8.5/10

On a sidenote it annoyed me how a family actually brought their young kids out to see this. This was not a movie for kids. When Leo had that "adult supervision" line it felt like he was talking right to them ha.

 

[terry78]

It was kind of a fourth wall break thing, but the whole movie was kind of tongue in cheek almost. I get how some could say it may trivialize the events of the time, but Basterds didn't.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Glad to see this movie getting good reviews and word of mouth. I wanted to see this movie tonight but the last showings for the night were completely sold out ( 10:40pm and 11:00pm). I had family at our house for the big x mas family dinner and they didn't leave until like 10pm. Definitely looking forward to seeing it tommorow. P.S hope you all had a great Christmas! ( I know I did).

 

[PWN3R]

I remember being disappointed when Foxx was cast. No disappointment here, the dude ****ing nails it. He's phenomenal as Django.

Solid movie. QT delivers, but man, the Rick Ross song still blows.


....AND HOLY BALLS OF GOD how about Leo and Sam Jackson chewing scenery like goddamn geniuses.

 

[humbdrumb]

AM I WRONG CUZ I WANNA GET IT ON TIL I DIE!?

that part. jesus ****.

 

[chaseter]

Exactly.

I would hope that one thing we can all agree on is that horrific tragedies involving a specific group of people are ALL horrible.

The reason we're discussing slavery and the Holocaust in PARTICULAR is because Spike Lee compared the two in connection with "Django Unchained" and also because Inglorious Basterds, which was about Nazi persecution of the Jews, was directed by the director of "Django Unchained" and because slavery is a big part of "Django Unchained".

The Crusades and the Trail of Tears, as well as the countless other tragedies that have happened over the years, are truly irrelevant to the discussion.

Last I checked, this was a thread about "Django Unchained".

What does Spike Lee and the Holocaust have to do with "Django Unchained"?


I just compared slavery to the Trail of Tears so does that make it now relevant?

 

[Bruce Malone]

I remember being disappointed when Foxx was cast. No disappointment here, the dude ****ing nails it. He's phenomenal as Django.

Solid movie. QT delivers, but man, the Rick Ross song still blows.


....AND HOLY BALLS OF GOD how about Leo and Sam Jackson chewing scenery like goddamn geniuses.

Same here, i wasn't a big foxx fan before but man the whole time it never felt like i was watching jamie foxx but i was watching djando period. He really inhabited the role.

Also I always love QT's music selections the more anachronistic the better, it was great here.