Do you accept the theory of evolution?

[SV Fan]

The fact that we've only searched a minute part of the oceans boggles the mind, when considering the bolded part. I know funding is a major issue, but still. This kind of research could rewrite history for the world over, but humanity wants to spend money killing each other rather than spending money discovering who we are, and where we came from. I'm not fooling myself. Money has to go to defense, and mankind has been killing each other since we've been on this earth, but I just get so aggravated over this.

Maybe they should wage a war on the Vatican, I know there probably is a room there that has alot of books with Hidden history. If you look at history it seems like the Vatican has gone out of it's way to cover up any history that doesn't line up with theirs(ie book burnings).

 

[Ash J. Williams]

I for one reject the THEORY of evolution. It's just a theory, like the theory of gravity.

Agreed.

 

[Bill]

I for one reject the THEORY of evolution. It's just a theory, like the theory of gravity.

Of course, despite gravity having a mere "theory" explaining it's mechanisms, people still seem to stick to the Earth just fine. And despite evolution having a "mere" theory explaining it's mechanisms, people still evolved from ape-like ancestors.

Gravity, like evolution, is a fact. But there are mechanisms that cause gravity to occur, just like evolution, that are still being hashed out. The theory refers to the explanation of those mechanisms, not the veracity of whether gravity, or evolution, is occurring.

Theories are a framework used to explain and interpret facts, not a rung on the ladder from guess to hypothesis, theory and then fact. It's doesn't work like that.

At this point, only those ignorant of the evidence or resistant to it's conclusions propose otherwise. Evolution is a fact. It happens to have theories to explain how it works. Just like gravity.

 

[Marvolo]

This thread reaffirms the fact that education is failing in America. How is it that some do not know and understand the definition of scientific theory? That info should be put in the first post.

 

[Nevincer]

This thread reaffirms the fact that education is failing in America. How is it that some do not know and understand the definition of scientific theory? That info should be put in the first post.

Yup.

 

[katie_girl09]

Don't people ever get tired of having this discussion (and permutations of it) over and over again?

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Of course not. It's the internet. People would argue with a brick wall, if it could type on a keyboard.

 

[Marvolo]

Discussion of an educated topic or lively debate is good for the mind. This may not be a good place to find either of those things but its good to attempt.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

No one should be explaining why this is correct and a story involving a talking snake, parting oceans, giant floods and people who can live in whales is not.

 

[KevanG]

Personally, I find Evolution comforting. It feels good to know that we are changing from what we were and into something (hopefully) better. I hate the idea that we're stuck like this in a static shell from 'creation' until the end of the species. I like the idea that we can continue to improve ourselves. That we can change and keep changing even if it means we no longer look like we are now.

 

[Marvolo]

No one should be explaining why this is correct and a story involving a talking snake, parting oceans, giant floods and people who can live in whales is not.

I agree but discussion helps others understand why that is. Its hard to strip religious teachings and beliefs from someone raised on it because most religions have punishments for such things. No matter how much evidence there is for evolution. There will probably always be those who can not fully accept it simply because their ties to their upbringing is too strong. It also comes down to where you live and the society you live in. Some are damning of such ideas as evolution. We may be living in an advanced age but we have never fully escaped the Dark Ages. Religious prosecution for the scientific minded and for opposing religions is just as strong in areas today as it was in those times.

Long educated and stimulating discussion is a good way for us stop thise backwards medieval thinking.

 

[WildcatNC]

This thread reaffirms the fact that education is failing in America. How is it that some do not know and understand the definition of scientific theory? That info should be put in the first post.

Yep.

Discussion of an educated topic or lively debate is good for the mind. This may not be a good place to find either of those things but its good to attempt.

I agree. We need more, not less.

 

[moviedoors]

Evolution is a fact. No need for me to throw in whether or not I believe or accept it. It's simply true.

 

[DBryan]

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2012/mar/27/tennessee-evolution-bill-goes-to-bill-haslam/

NASHVILLE -- A controversial bill that protects teachers who discuss with students "weaknesses" in evolution and other scientific theories is on its way to Gov. Bill Haslam, who is under pressure from prominent scientists to veto it.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm curious as to know what these so-called weaknesses are.

The bill's thrust, said Watson, who majored in biology at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, is that "students should be encouraged to challenge current scientific thought and theory. Students should be encouraged to debate, to improve their critical thinking skills and to improve their communications skills."


When did the science class become debate team?

 

[DBryan]

The bill is an excuse to get intelligent design/creationism into science class.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The bill is an excuse to get intelligent design/creationism into science class.

I admit, I'm actually curious as to what a creationist exam would look like.

Would the answer to every question just be "God"?

 

[lordofthenerds]

I admit, I'm actually curious as to what a creationist exam would look like.

Would the answer to every question just be "God"?

Who created the Earth?
A.) God
B.) Jesus
C.) The Holy Spirit
D.) Your grandpa was a monkey
E.) A, B, and C

 

[DBryan]

I admit, I'm actually curious as to what a creationist exam would look like.

Would the answer to every question just be "God"?

I'm pretty sure it would be full of pseudoscience junk that's never been peer reviewed, that ignores evidence and even flat out lies about the evidence.

 

[djKiDDvIcIOUs]

I believe in God and Jesus but I know the theory of evolution is true. Scientists turned on genes in chickens to grow tales

 

[SuperFerret]

This thread reaffirms the fact that education is failing in America. How is it that some do not know and understand the definition of scientific theory? That info should be put in the first post.

If you don't know why that mistake is made, I don't think you should be criticizing those who make that mistake.

 

[DIRECTOR]

You guys want to know the best method in believing and legitimizing Evolution.....

[blackout]READ THE BIBLE[/BLACKOUT]

 

[SuperFerret]

Yep, because science and religion are antitheses and if you don't believe stories in a book, the opposite side must be 100% true.

 

[Dragon]

This poll is very unscientific- ironic for folks who support science.

For one thing, the suggestion is that either you can believe in evolution or THE BIBLE. When there are infinite other choices.

I personally know God exists and yet do believe that some evolutionary concepts are reasonable. It simply means there's a science behind Creation. I also don't subscribe to everything in the bible. I see some of it as a useful teaching tool and some of it as a possible re-telling of historic events. Other parts are politics. There is a gigantic difference between belief in God and religion.

Secondly- I see evolution proponents joking about things like a "talking snake" or "parting of the red sea". Which again, is pretty unscientific.

If you support evolution, then it's only by chance that humans developed our ability of verbal communication. But since all species began from a single species, then the possibility for such traits would exist in all species, correct? So by evolutionary standards it isn't impossible that another species could develop the ability of speech.

So, the talking snake is simply God (Who created all these parameters in the first place) or Satan a being of vast cosmic power- evolving or enhancing the speech capabilities of a snake. That or the talking snake was only an illusion in the first place.

The same with the parting of the Red Sea. There are certainly physical forces that could cause a sea to part. It was just God making use of them, since he created them.

A big reason why I believe that evolution is a flawed concept is that ideologies such as Darwinism essentially doom mankind. The idea of "survival of the fittest" is destructive, whereas belief in a benevolent God requires that we find a way to all survive together.

 

[Nevincer]

This poll is very unscientific- ironic for folks who support science.

For one thing, the suggestion is that either you can believe in evolution or THE BIBLE. When there are infinite other choices.

Back up a minute here, disregarding the rest of the post or anything else in the topic... what? The options on the poll are "Yes (post your reasons)", "No (post your reasons)", or "Not sure". How the heck is that disregarding the option of things other than the bible when it specifically states to vote and post your personal reasons which can range between anything, not even necessarily a belief in god?