Do you give another chance to Mark Steven Johnson?

[chiefchirpa]

His Marvel credits are:
1 Daredevil – Many people thought the Director’s cut are good. I think it’s definitely bogged down by the origin story.

2 Ghost Rider – IMO, terrible movie based on acting, dialogs, and action scenes.

The best I can give him is comedic Marvel like Deadpool or O'Grady Ant Man because he has filmed Grumpy Old Men. Don't ever let him write the screenplay.

 

[ord0g]

While he hasn't brought us utter crap like some before him he hasn't even managed to do any good with the material he's had put before him. No, 3 strikes already for him.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I wouldnt mind if he got to do GR2, IMO DD had the perfect darkness and tone for a GR movie, so if he got to go darker with the sequel, he could give something good IMO.

 

[Savage]

You do know he didn't direct Elektra, right?

Well anyway, I like his style as a director but he needs to seriously work on his action. Ghost Rider had the most awkward fights I've ever watched. They weren't even fights. They kinda just took turns hitting each other or stood there while Ghost Rider owned them.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^True, he had little involvement in Elektra and even derided it when making GR, but i agree that the action in GR left a lot to be desired.

 

[Tempest19]

Yeah. When FOX gets the rights back, I want them to bring MSJ and the whole DD crew back on board for a sequel- not a reboot. The Director's Cut is actually my favorite MARVEL film because it captured the comic book tone with a dark serious edge to it (which unfortunately most audiences didn't see because they only saw the theatrical cut).

 

[The Guard]

If he wants to direct, fine. He's a fairly capable director. But he needs to stop writing his own superhero movies. He just doesn't seem to understand tone.

 

[Tempest19]

Actually DD 'ruined' him, he believed the suits and said he made sure he made Ghost Rider more marketable after learning from DD or something like that. So, I'd say he SHOULD be a director and writer as long as he's given free reigns and his confidence is built back up to the point that he can give us DD: DC again rather than GR. DD:TR was just a horrible Fox rape of a film. And yes, rape is a strong word but fits perfectly.

 

[The Major]

No.

 

[The Major]

Yeah. When FOX gets the rights back, I want them to bring MSJ and the whole DD crew back on board for a sequel- not a reboot.

A sequel could work I just want a new director, screenwriter and leading actor.

MSJ would be fine as a consultant, though. I thought he understood the concept very well in the interviews I've watched but he couldn't get that on the screen for whatever reason.

The Director's Cut is actually my favorite MARVEL film because it captured the comic book tone with a dark serious edge to it

I disagree.

Read a Miller, Bendis or Brubaker DD comic then watch the movie after it. The darkness doesn't even come close to the comic book IMO. They need someone like Nolan on this.

(which unfortunately most audiences didn't see because they only saw the theatrical cut).

I didn't see much different between the director's cut and the theatrical. The show made more sense but overall the movie stayed the same quality.

 

[co2]

A sequel could work I just want a new director, screenwriter and leading actor.

MSJ would be fine as a consultant, though. I thought he understood the concept very well in the interviews I've watched but he couldn't get that on the screen for whatever reason.



I disagree.

Read a Miller, Bendis or Brubaker DD comic then watch the movie after it. The darkness doesn't even come close to the comic book IMO. They need someone like Nolan on this.



I didn't see much different between the director's cut and the theatrical. The show made more sense but overall the movie stayed the same quality.

I agree with all of your comments. I thought the Director's cut of DD was slightly improved, as it added a needed subplot, but overall, the things that I didn't like about the theatrical cut were still in there to bog it down.

 

[Savage]

Yeah, his direction was fine with the movies. A lot of the complaints come from the script/screenplay itself.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I cant possibly see being excited to hear about him getting attached to another Marvel property.

 

[Savage]

Maybe Heroes for Hire.

 

[deathshead2]

Director yes, writer no. When Daredevil came out I loved it, and when the trailer for Ghost Rider came out I rmemeber when people said it would be the next best comic book movie. Sadly the writing was horrible.

 

[DACrowe]

He has no sense of balance in pacing between comedy and humor and doesn't know when to pull back. He just throws too much at the screen and hopes it sticks. This is true for the DC of DD as well. It is very enjoyable and had some very good elements, but at best it is an average film. It has moments of greatness, but only fans will strain themselves to see it. We, critics and even Ebert saw one those few moments that survived to the TC and gave it a few good reviews and based on that he obviously has some talent, but he has little discipline in when using it.

Ghost Rider was a terrible movie that showed no control. The performances were all over the place, the screenplay was awful, the characterization was cartoonish at best and story/pace made no sense; it was completely random formulaic and predictable. Good actors were wasted and the movie was MST3K worthy.

Based on that I'd rather him go back to smaller movies for a while and find his voice again before attempting a big studio film, which seems to overwhelm him, albeit he does have talent and a vision, but has trouble overcoming the details.

 

[cerealkiller182]

completely random formulaic and predictable?

I dont want to stick up for MSJ but dude theres something wrong their.

 

[The Major]

Yeah, his direction was fine with the movies. A lot of the complaints come from the script/screenplay itself.

The screenplay was a major culprit unfortunately the tone is just as bad.

MSJ didn't go dark enough for either GR or DD. It didn't come across as realistic with few exceptions. They were Underworld dark not Nolan Begins dark (for DD) or horror dark (for GR).

 

[Darth Elektra]

Director yes, writer no. When Daredevil came out I loved it, and when the trailer for Ghost Rider came out I rmemeber when people said it would be the next best comic book movie. Sadly the writing was horrible.

I would agree with that.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I think most people here so far agree that MSJ is a competent Director, but not a competent story teller, or screenplay writer.

Personally having been involved in all the hype of Ghost Rider, I was completely let down with this movie after I had time to digest it all.

MSJ promised great action - the action was forgettable.
MSJ promised an important love story - A Lie.
MSJ Fans will enjoy Blackhearts true form - What True form?

There was absolutely no story or character development for Eva Mendez's character, no development of "THe Fallen" characters...they were just speedbumps. Ghost Rider barely had any screen time in this movie..and if he did...there was barely any action or fighting.

Spoiler

He killed the first bad guy with one punch and chain wrap. Killed the 2nd by twirling his chain, and the 3rd by shooting a short spurt of hellfire. Blackheart was beaten by Supermario fireballs and the Penance stare... That probably explains why the movie was delayed to add MORE action (the helicopter scene).

For all the waiting we had to do as fans for this movie, the end result was totally dissapointing looking back. On 2nd thought, he should be banned from director or producing Super hero movies, and should play a minor role in them if anything.

 

[Rac]

No. I wouldn't give him another chance. And I hope Marvel realises this too that fans don't like his work. They need to stop working with Zak Penn and Tim Story too.

 

[Joker]

I'd want him for a Daredevil sequel, but not for a Ghost Rider sequel. While Ghost Rider was entertaining, it could have been much, much better.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Daredevil as one of the more famous Marvel character deserves a better Director. As for Ghost Rider, he's not up to the task for a serious tone Marvel movie. The best that I'll give is Deadpool.

 

[Buttman]

It's from wikipedia, so its likely to be false.. but have you guys seen this? I've never heard anything about it, it seems like a completely made up rumour to me.

The following films have been announced but with no set release date
Ant-Man TBA Marvel Studios In development
The Avengers TBA Marvel Studios In development
Black Panther TBA Paramount Pictures In development
Captain America TBA Marvel Studios In development
Daredevil: Born Again TBA 20th Century Fox In development
Deathlok TBA Paramount Pictures In development
Doctor Strange TBA Marvel Studios In development

Then checking out the Born Again page --

Live Action film

A sequel to the Daredevil (film) is in development, and is expected to use the "Daredevil: Born Again" storyline. Director Mark Steven Johnson showed interest in returning to direct with the Born Again storyline. Michael Clarke Duncan stated strong interest in reprising his role as the Kingpin. Johnson stated that villains Mr. Fear or The Owl are strong possibilities to appear for the sequel.

 

[Gotham]

I couldn't stand his Ghost Rider film, but Daredevil isn't that bad (albeit still being bad). He may definitely return for another Ghost Rider, though I can't see myself watching it.