Do you prefer Tim Burton's first Batman movie or Nolan's Batman Begins?

[Lunar_Wolf]

BURTON'S BATMAN?
OR

NOLAN'S BATMAN?

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I voted for Nolan's....much much better

 

[Da Docta]

Why 2 threads?

 

[The Question]

Nolan's main problem is that he kind of forgoed with logic for the sake of the story, which gave his films a really trippy feel.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Why 2 threads?

I hit the post button by mistake instead putting the poll up my bad I have a habit for doing that.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I grew up with Burton's, but I think Nolan's is head and shoulders above it. I watched them both, basically back to back, on hbo one day not too long ago.

 

[french joker]

BURTON

i hate nolan's version (this script, my god how awful it was!)

 

[The Chairman]

This has been done so many time it's sickening.

Both are excellent interpretations of the characters, but I go with Burton's. I grew up with Keaton, so there's that sentimental value. But Bale was excellent. They were equally perfect for the part, just in different ways.

 

[blind_fury]

B89

It had far more memorable scenes, dialogue, characters, and music. Batman Begins was just meh.

 

[Spike_x1]

Begins.

Even when I was a kid, I always thought B89 was kinda bland.

 

[CConn]

This is always a bit of a difficult question for me to answer. I'm very...emotionally attached to B89 - that's what made me a Batman fan, afterall - so it's sorta on a level for me, personally, that no other film will really be able to top. Quality-wise though, I realize BB is the better film.

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

Batman Begins in everything except for the music. Elfman's score absolutely and utterly crushes Hans Zimmer's monotone wankery, which is why BB2 needs a new composer.

 

[zer00]

Batman Begins in everything except for the music. Elfman's score absolutely and utterly crushes Hans Zimmer's monotone wankery, which is why BB2 needs a new composer.

or

I could rip out my bladder

 

[Spike_x1]

Can't we have both?

 

[zer00]

if ALL of us were logical

now let's all hold hands and cry

 

[Spike_x1]

I'm already crying.

And I have no hands.

 

[cryptic name]

nolans film was the best batman to date, it was a great interpretation of the character with the perfect actor for the role of bruce wayne/batman.

that being said, i prefer the burton movie. it's a personal thing and i can't really explain it.

 

[The Kid]

both are the best batman movies ever right now.

 

[Katsuro]

Batman Begins in everything except for the music. Elfman's score absolutely and utterly crushes Hans Zimmer's monotone wankery, which is why BB2 needs a new composer.

Howard and Zimmer's theme was amazing. Elfman had a great theme that worked for the Burton films, but it would've just been out of place in Begins. And besides, even if you like Elfman's them over Molossus (the main Begins theme), you have to admit the enitre rest of the Begins theme is miles above... Prince.

 

[BatJeff7786]

This is always a bit of a difficult question for me to answer. I'm very...emotionally attached to B89 - that's what made me a Batman fan, afterall - so it's sorta on a level for me, personally, that no other film will really be able to top. Quality-wise though, I realize BB is the better film.

Same here.

 

[Steelsheen]

i really cant choose one over the other.

stylistically they are very different from each other. B89 and BR have the gothic, fantastical element to it, BB has the realistic, gritty feeling of a detective movie. both elements are things that i love about the Batman franchise.

 

[The Kid]

I'll list what i liked and didn't like about both films. Maybe one will be the winner if it has more likes. Let's go:

Batman 89

Likes:
-The Music. It's as if the stars aligned the night elfman composed it. it's perfect for batman.
-Keaton. He sold me the dark character of batsy the first time ever in my life. I would not give a crap about batman if it weren't for his cool performance.
-that noir-ish feel. I think this might have been helped by the music. Even my cat likes it. I love how dark and gloomy the atmosphere is in this and glad they went that way for BTAS. It just feels right for a character like batman, the great detective. He's a hardboiled and flawed sort of hero like in a film noir methinks.
-"where ya bin spendin your nights." RIP porkins.
-The Batmobile. I want one.
-battle in the bell tower, just brutal, and nicely coreographed
-"You wanna get nuts? come on! Let's get nuts!"
-All the moneyshots.(like batman's batplane sillhouetted on the moon) Like a comic come to life. Well played, burton.
-Billy Dee as harvy dent. Lando is the man.
-Batman portrayed as an unstopable monster who haunts criminals. well done.
-Bruce wayne seeming naked and uncoordinated without the batman suit on.
I thought that was cool.
-Bob The Goon. He's The Joker's Numba One Guy.
-Alfred and his line about not wanting bruce to follow his parent's fate.
-Batmobile driving on it's own.
-The whole entrance to the cave sequence.
-"this isn't really a normal world is it..." might not be exact quote.
-"He stole my balloons!"
-"give me your gun, bob." bob hands his gun to joker. Joker shoots bob.


Dislikes:
-the reporter guy. He's not terrible, but not funny or interesting or anything. why give him so much screen time...
-Jack overplayed the joker. Yeah, I know, that's supposedly impossible to do but its what I feel he did. I just wasn't feeling the 'insane' vibe and more of just an actor hamming it up though he played it well enough to live with. I'd have preferred robin williams since it seemed like the role was specifically written for him; just listening to the rub rubbarb line makes me think of williams saying it and it actually being sorta funny but creepy... oh well.
-gordon. He's just underused, and never really interacts with the batman. a waste.
-Prince song. Some days I see why they used it in that scene. some days, I just wish they didn't.
-Vicky Vale. Lois lane ripoff. I didn't care for her that much.

O here it comes...

Batman Begins

Likes:
-Katie Holmes.

I thought she did a swell job playing a strong, compassionate young woman here. she gets pissed on by people for no really good reason, I think. she did amazingly well up there with some of hollywood's best talents, and played Rachael with the proper grace and maturity it required... yunno, some people see her as the weakest part of begins... but not so, to me. Even if she's the weakest link though, it could have been alot worse if they cast someone like dunst.
-ScareCrow. This guy was great. He mumbles a line or two, but it's forgiven. I really enjoyed his performance. that's why I didn't like how he was treated in the end. He could have been the only villian, cuz this guy played it so well.
-Beginning in the jail cell. that was cool.
-Batman portrayed as a horror movie monster. well done, nolan.
-Oldman as gordon. Perfect casting. perfect acting.
-"Excuse me"
-bruce Wakes up full of Bruises after a night of batmaning... Drinks some green stuff and like a badass starts doing some early morning pushups.
-Neeson is god.
-Every scene between bruce and rachael.
-Morgan Freeman is really God.
-"Nevah"
-the idea of fear of bats causing batman to blame himself for his parents death though it ultimately goes nowhere special.
-Using the best stuff from batman forever. (The young bruce falling into the batcave. Seeing into batmans mind and seeing lots of bats.)
-"Swear to me!" (the new wanna get nuts.)
-Bruce at the party, being a jerk. well done, bale. It's like you pulled that character from shaft out again. I hated him...

Dislikes
-Origami Mobile. This is an ugly car, batman and you have to lay down to drive it. lay, down, to, drive, it... weird.
-Can you drive stick
-If you can see the fights, please tell me what's going on.
-Fear. It's like the man can't even go one day of his entire life without hearing 'something' about Fear. That's just Overkill on the fear theme, nolan...
-Vaporizor microwave. this thing doesn't make the sense at all.
-Batman the grouch. I didn't much like the grouch imitation bale does as he plays batman. Just listen to conroy and imitate him instead please.
-Not really much Sherlock Batman here. He's basically another unbeatable kung-fu hero we see in every martial arts movie by bruce lee or someone like that. Jean Claude Vandamme = Batman?
-Batman kills. or tries to even though he says he's no executioner. what?
-Bruce acting foolish and jumping in pools with model friends. (why's he doing this?)
-Scarecrow's comical defeat. Terrible. way too Batman & Robinish. I thought they learned their lesson.
-Bruce's father's acting when he dies. What is this... come on...
-Sonic-bat-calling-shoe-thingy. Where'd he get this do-hicky?
-The sudden shift into over-the-top action-movie spectacle after all the serious realistic drama was a little jarring.
-The cute kid batman gives his nightvision goggles to. Hellboy did it first and that time there was some cookies and milk. this kid's whole role was cheesy and probably demanded by the studio to make batman seem literally more kid friendly or whatever...
- the whole sup plot, side plot, whatever it's called, with the sleezy business guy trying to screw wayne... blah, it felt like an extra added for nothing but the memo part.
-They left the lines out from the teaser about "I traveled the world in search of something lurking in the darkness... yadda yadda yadda, I found ME." That was a nice line...
-It's bit boring...sry.
-"nice coat."
-Bruce's dad is the only parent who seems to matter.

I think that's everything. Ill add more if I think of it.

thanks for reading. bye.

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

Howard and Zimmer's theme was amazing. Elfman had a great theme that worked for the Burton films, but it would've just been out of place in Begins.

I never said Elfman's theme would work with Begins, but that it works much better for B89 than Zimmer's banal, recycled three-note noodling for BB. Howard's parts were great, but they were far few in between. I would have been ok with it if he did the entire thing, but BB would have greatly benefited from someone like Alan Silvestri as the main composer.

you have to admit the enitre rest of the Begins theme is miles above... Prince.

Umm...no. Zimmer is Uwe Boll of film scoring. Prince is quite a genius in his own way. Granted, I don't wanna hear any of his stuff in a Batman movie, but I'll take Purple Rain over any Zimmer lamefest, thank you...

 

[Warhammer]

Crap, I voted for Burton's Batman.
I love the movie, but it is garbage compared to Batman Begins.
I grew up with Batman, but Batman Begins was more smarter, etc.

Begins had so much substance to it, that Batman did not have.

I do like Keaton, a bit more than Bale, but I think that's because Keaton has been Batman for 2 movies.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Nolan's