Superman Returns Does any one know what 6'3" and 225 pounds lean actually looks like?

JBElliott said:
LOL...yet another person who hasn't read that many Superman comics. You should take a look at some comics or the great animated series (Nolan and Singer could learn a lot from Timm and Dini (who should have been the ones to make the live action Batman and Superman adaptations)) and see that, much more often than not, Superman is drawn as a "muscle head" (your words, not mine). Too bad Singer et al. didn't do that.

key word though is 'drawn'
 
JBElliott said:
LOL...yet another person who hasn't read that many Superman comics. You should take a look at some comics or the great animated series (Nolan and Singer could learn a lot from Timm and Dini (who should have been the ones to make the live action Batman and Superman adaptations)) and see that, much more often than not, Superman is drawn as a "muscle head" (your words, not mine). Too bad Singer et al. didn't do that.

And what actor would would you recommend for the role of "Superman the Bodybuilder".
 
JBElliott said:
LOL...yet another person who hasn't read that many Superman comics. You should take a look at some comics or the great animated series (Nolan and Singer could learn a lot from Timm and Dini (who should have been the ones to make the live action Batman and Superman adaptations)) and see that, much more often than not, Superman is drawn as a "muscle head" (your words, not mine). Too bad Singer et al. didn't do that.

i'll take this...
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over this...
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...ANY day of the week.
 
DorkyFresh said:
i'll take this...
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over this...
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...ANY day of the week.

Guess you don't like the comics or the animated series then.

I'll take a guy as beefy as O'Hearn who can act over skinny boy Routh any day of the week.
 
newmexneon said:
And what actor would would you recommend for the role of "Superman the Bodybuilder".

For the role of SUPERMAN (not skinnyboy which is what Routh looks like, I guess the S on his chest and belt buckle (LOL) is for Skinny) I'd have prefered an actor (who could act very well) with an upper body the size of O'Hearn but without the obvious body builder cuts. An actor (who could act) of the build of Clint (Posey from the Dirty Dozen) Walker (see below) would have been perfect. Walker was 6'6" and made Jim (NFL all time great running back, 6'2" and 232lbs) Brown look small. Here are some pics of Walker, who has the perfect look for Superman:

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(that's Burt Reynold's who is around 6' tall next to Walker)

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(that's Alax Karras, 6'2" next to Walker, Karas played offensive line for the Detroit Lions)
 
JBElliot, how in the world is Routh 'skinny'? lol

Dude was so big, he was prone to ripping his costume...and had to slim down. Take your ,male muscle infactuation elsewhere...
 
JBElliott said:
Guess you don't like the comics or the animated series then.

I'll take a guy as beefy as O'Hearn who can act over skinny boy Routh any day of the week.
JB,
Superman is drawn the way he is because of aestetics, It looks good on paper but is impractical in real life. Brandon Routh is hardly skinny. A Mike O'hearn Superman in live action looks ridiculous because he's supposed to be passing himself off as an average person.
We only get away with in the comics because we say the disguise works.
 
JBElliott said:
Guess you don't like the comics or the animated series then
ya guessed wrong. i obviously do since i'm posting here.

I'll take a guy as beefy as O'Hearn who can act over skinny boy Routh any day of the week.
good luck finding a dude as big as O'Hearn who can actually act.

gotta question for ya...do you think Christopher Reeve was built enough to play Supes?
 
y2jversion1 said:
6'4, 225lbs right here:

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The rock should play watt wingfoot in the next fantastic four movies he'd be perfect !

And oh yeah I think in the first two superman movie Christ reeve had the right built but the fourth superman movie he seems to have lost some weight and I’m sure it was because he got older and he didn’t have time to train

Just like Lindsay carter in the first wonder woman pilot!
What a babe she was!
The perfect woman for the role with long legs and all!

And then after a few episode she seem to have lost a lot of weight even her butt started to look a little flat for my taste !
I guess she was force to loose weight under pressure!

Anyway both, Linda Carter and Christopher Reeve are irreplaceable!

I’m pretty sure it would be impossible to find a woman to look as good as Linda Cater without mankind her looking like a cheap ****h in the next wonder woman movie.
 
JBElliott said:
Guess you don't like the comics or the animated series then.

I'll take a guy as beefy as O'Hearn who can act over skinny boy Routh any day of the week.

Personally I don't know how anyone can actually LIKE that humongous, steroidal-looking Superman of the comics. He looks like a freakin WWE star nowadays. Even in the old days when he was big and beefy, he didn't have veins popping out of his arms or a neck the size of a tree trunk.

To me there's something a lot more magical about watching a more naturally-built Superman fly into the air or lift a tank over his head. You can imagine yourself BEING that guy. When most kids fantasize about being Superman, being ultra buff probably has nothing to do with it. They just want to have his powers and fly through the air. I think the comics have gotten away from that too much.
 
Morgan Freeman is 6'2". Bale is 6'0" or under. Lots of actors wear lifts in their shoes, especially the short ones.

Freeman is 6'3.

Liam Neeson is 6'4, Morgan Freeman is 6'3, Michael Caine is 6'2, Bale looks to be about 2 inches shorter than Neeson and around the same height as Caine (just a tad shorter). so Bale is maybe 6'1.5. that would make Routh at LEAST 6'3, maybe 6'4 (Neeson's height).

I'd be inclined to give Bale the 1/2 inch.....He seems about the same height as Caine. But, he's ATLEAST 6'1 1/2.....which, your right, would mean that Routh is ATLEAST 6'3.....and I'd say he's 6'4, just like early reports said. He seems about the same distance height away from Bale as Neeson to me.

Then you see it wrong. Bale was clearly shorter than every other male lead in Batman Begins: Caine, Freeman, Oldman and Neeson.

He looked GIGANTIC next to Murphy........he looke deven with Caine.

Your insane if you think he looked smaller than Oldman.

He looked smaller than Neeson and Freeman b/c they're both taller than he is. Neeson is 6'4 and Freeman is 6'3.

Not really, Bermejo has been drawing the costume like that for a while:

Yup. And I think it was cooler when he was the only one that did it. Now people are copying it, and add to that the new design for Supergirl's costume...well....now we get this "fem" feel for it.

Personally I don't know how anyone can actually LIKE that humongous, steroidal-looking Superman of the comics. He looks like a freakin WWE star nowadays. Even in the old days when he was big and beefy, he didn't have veins popping out of his arms or a neck the size of a tree trunk.

Totally.

i personally could NEVER accept a Superman that looks like that.

There was a skit with The Rock on SNL where he wore a suit so tiny that he looked like a steriod freak. And that's how a guy like O'hearn would look as Superman. It'd be too obvious, there'd be no need for a secret identity. He'd rip he jacket and shirt every time he bent over to pick something up.

Routh is not skinny. The guy seems buff.
 
davejames said:
Personally I don't know how anyone can actually LIKE that humongous, steroidal-looking Superman of the comics. He looks like a freakin WWE star nowadays. Even in the old days when he was big and beefy, he didn't have veins popping out of his arms or a neck the size of a tree trunk.

To me there's something a lot more magical about watching a more naturally-built Superman fly into the air or lift a tank over his head. You can imagine yourself BEING that guy. When most kids fantasize about being Superman, being ultra buff probably has nothing to do with it. They just want to have his powers and fly through the air. I think the comics have gotten away from that too much.
Are you crazy?
You get the fu(k outta here man!
In the world of comic books huge muscle rules
That’s the reason why I first was attracted to superhero comics ever since I was around 8 or 9
First I wanted to make my body looks like theirs and I knew in doing so I’d get their strength along the way too.
Just by building huge muscle through lots of effort
my will was getting stronger
I knew I could also develop other abilities through the sheer force my will

Kids who dream of having those powers without the body to go along with it must be lazy and stupid.
I pity them!

That’s why I despise lots of Manga character who look like stick figure with immense power .
I think they are sending the wrong message to kids
Nature just doesn’t work that way.

With huge strength must also come huge muscle and a strong body to cope with it?
One’s must amplified what’s already there
So don’t show me a little woman with huge strength who’s beating men twice her size
Just like in those stupid Buffy the vampire crappy stuff
All of these thing are usually concocted by stupid nerds who has no clue about
What it’s mean to have huge physical strength
That’s their only way to take revenge on bigger guys

In fact if superman was for real his muscle would be so huge and they’d weight tons just to cope with his super strenght .
 
I doubt that, seeing as how he cannot work out. He'd have to lift tons at a time to break a sweat.
 
yeah....he'd have to move islands in order to break a sweat.....if ya know what i mean! hehe ;)
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
I doubt that, seeing as how he cannot work out. He'd have to lift tons at a time to break a sweat.

Exactly. He shouldn't look like a 'roid ape, just a very in shape reguler guy.
 
Yeah.

Being a Batman fan, Batman NEEDS to work out.....he doesn't have the God given powers. He can work his body out with weights, and build muscle.

Superman can't build muscle....atleast, not like normal people. He might have to move planets as workouts.

But....then you have to ask....why would he? He's already got super strength.

Plus, being so huge.....how would he keep himself under the radar as Clark Kent?
 
Diamondhead said:
Are you crazy?
You get the fu(k outta here man!
In the world of comic books huge muscle rules

Guess what? SR isn't a comic book. It's a movie!! Therefore, Supes don't need to have huge muscles like an ugly bodybuilders.

That’s the reason why I first was attracted to superhero comics ever since I was around 8 or 9
First I wanted to make my body looks like theirs and I knew in doing so I’d get their strength along the way too.
Just by building huge muscle through lots of effort
my will was getting stronger
I knew I could also develop other abilities through the sheer force my will

Are you sure? :p

Kids who dream of having those powers without the body to go along with it must be lazy and stupid.
I pity them!

Sad to see you're such a hate monger with making hateful comments about kids like that. Guess that mean you will never be a father in your life. Beside, not all kids dream of being huge. They dream of being strong like Supes. You know Supes can be strong without being big like the Hulk.

That’s why I despise lots of Manga character who look like stick figure with immense power .
I think they are sending the wrong message to kids
Nature just doesn’t work that way.

That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. How does Manga send a wrong message to kids? I thought the Human Torch send the kids the wrong message. After all, he can turn him into fire & fly. Wouldn't kids try to set themself on fire, thinking they can fly & shoot flames? :ghost:

With huge strength must also come huge muscle and a strong body to cope with it?

Not in the case of Superman who isn't really a plain human being, so it possible he can be strong without looking like it.

One’s must amplified what’s already there
So don’t show me a little woman with huge strength who’s beating men twice her size

I know Wonder Woman is just about as strong as Supes & she surely as hell don't look like Chyna. And I mean muscles shape beside look. Funny how no one seem to point that out compare to Supes.

All of these thing are usually concocted by stupid nerds who has no clue about
What it’s mean to have huge physical strength
That’s their only way to take revenge on bigger guys

Surely you must be a nerd yourself with how you demanding Supes be play by a bodybuilder to look like the comic. That very nerdish there. ;) :D

In fact if superman was for real his muscle would be so huge and they’d weight tons just to cope with his super strenght .

Not really. His strength didn't came from muscles, it from the sun!! Therefore, he don't need to be bulky. The reason why he's so bulky in the comic book, is because comic book aren't real. And the fact is they draw superheroes big in the comic books anyway is to make them look heroic. You need to know the difference between realstic & pure fantasy. :p
 
JBElliott said:
LOL...yet another person who hasn't read that many Superman comics. You should take a look at some comics or the great animated series (Nolan and Singer could learn a lot from Timm and Dini (who should have been the ones to make the live action Batman and Superman adaptations)) and see that, much more often than not, Superman is drawn as a "muscle head" (your words, not mine). Too bad Singer et al. didn't do that.
Yet someone who doesn't understand the characters OR the mythos. Superman's powers aren't a deriviative of the size or bulk of his muscles...but of the radiation from the yellow sun. Dumb ass. Nolan owned Batman, and did it about as spot on as you can get. :o
 
JBElliott said:
Yeah so what?

my point is that just because its drawn a certain way does not mean it will look just as good in real life. think outside the funny pages man
 
Ya know what.....with all these issues of steriods....and HGH.....and the constant issues with keeping young athletes (as in teenagers....) away from them.....it's probably best not to portray these heroes as sterioid-like muscled beings.
 
ok, as some people are now calling the description I gave fro 225 punds at 6'3" as a "bodybuilder", is absurd.

My point was just that I prefer superman to look bigger than Routh does, at least by a little bit, and get his hair cut too.

Not Rouths fault the suit was so constricting he actually had to slim down, if he gets a trainer for a sequel they will have to make him a bigger costume.

And who ever posted the picture of Clint Walker is right on the money.

If I were the casting director, and I am not, I would have tried to find some one who looks like him.

NOT bodybuilder size, but an actor who has a physique like Clint Walker had at his peak.

Tall, powerfully built, but not the look of a competative bodybuilder.
 
Well, I don't think his hair is an issue at all.

And, he does look like a big guy......
 
Routh is tall but lacks muscularity. This didn't seem to be an issue to Singer or the studio, who're patterning everything after Chris Reeve, i.e. a tall thin Superman, not the big buff guy from the comics.
 
SuperMike335!! said:
ok, as some people are now calling the description I gave fro 225 punds at 6'3" as a "bodybuilder", is absurd.

My point was just that I prefer superman to look bigger than Routh does, at least by a little bit, and get his hair cut too.

Not Rouths fault the suit was so constricting he actually had to slim down, if he gets a trainer for a sequel they will have to make him a bigger costume.

And who ever posted the picture of Clint Walker is right on the money.

If I were the casting director, and I am not, I would have tried to find some one who looks like him.

NOT bodybuilder size, but an actor who has a physique like Clint Walker had at his peak.

Tall, powerfully built, but not the look of a competative bodybuilder.

You have to understand that builds have changed vastly over the years and nowadays a build like Clint Walkers would be someone like welling in season5 of smallville. I personally think routh looks small but there have been pictures of him in the suit that made him look big, as i have stated time and time again in similair threads i think the easiest thing singer and co could have done was have a shirtless routh pic it would have silenced a lot of people.


Also we have to remember that the suit compresses his build so that might be making him look smaller.
 

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