Logan Does the events of "Logan" ruin "Days of Future Past" for you?

Does the events of "Logan" ruin "Days of Future Past" for you?

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Technically it should effect deadpool too in that case since certain elements in Logan really do twist some elements in the deadpool films also.
 
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Sorry for the off topicness, but does anyone know how long after the first X-men movie does X2 take place?
 
No, because at the end of the day, Logan's events don't change that at the end of Days of Future Past, there was a happy ending. That film has a happy ending, this film implies that there were bad stuff that happened after, but it doesn't change that at the end of the day, that movie still had a happy ending. Logan being made doesn't somehow change what happened in Days of Future Past, maybe it gives you a bit of retrospective context, but it doesn't change that as per that film, it's a happy ending there.
 
I don't like the idea of sequels or spinoffs "ruining" a movie. Movies are individual products, even if they expand on a story.
 
I felt Logan was set in the original timeline for some reason but it doesn't ruin it for me in either case.

Anywho, I actually liked an idea I heard recently, the idea that the franchise could cast different actors from film to film (as they did with Caliban) and you can still recognize characters and enjoy the film by itself or as part of their universe.
 
Xmen - TLS takes place in only a few months time.

Dialogue in the films make it pretty clear.
 
Supperhero said:
Really?

I think:

X-Men - 2004
X2 - 2004
X3 - 2005

That said, what dialogue?
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In the cyclops and jean dialogue at museum it is said a month ago before liberty island she had trouble levitating a book now when she has dream whole room shakes.

Your free to think time frame of original trilogy anyway you want.i feel best to say some time in 2000's with X2 not long after X-Men.I would say a year is probaly right between X2 and last stand.
 
The studio clearly doesn't give a **** about the continuity. And neither should you. Just enjoy each one as its own thing.
 
I think Wolverine's successful time trip in DOFP means that in reality DOFP didn't exist when Logan succeeded his mission.

So in the original timeline, XMO: W -> X1 -> X2 -> X3 -> TW -> Logan

First Class trilogy and Deadpool should be in another timeline. DOFP should not exist because Wolverine's mission resulted in the Sentinel program shutting down for good.

Pretty much Logan is the end of one of the timelines. The original trilogy timeline. Should not expect to see any of the OT cast ever again.
 
It surprises me that people are having this much consternation about it--the timelines are really very simple.

Original timeline -> FC - XMO:W - X1 - X2 - X3 - TW - DOFP (this is the end of the timeline as we saw all the X-Men were about to be killed)

Revised timeline -> FC - DOFP - X:A - Deadpool (DP) (and all other X-movies to come)

Logan makes reference to the original X-Men. However, since the Sentinel takeover of the earth clearly didn't happen (meaning DOFP never happened), Logan is in a timeline of its own.

It cannot be in continuity with the happy ending of DOFP since X1 never happened in the revised timeline. Nothing from the original trilogy did. Not to mention that Logan only takes place 6 years after the happy ending of DOFP and there are young mutants at Xavier's. That doesn't line up with Logan, since he says no new mutants have been born in 25 years. That rules out existing in the revised timeline.

So, since it doesn't allow for the Sentinels, it can't be in the original timeline. And since it has mutant extinction (more or less) then it can't be the revised timeline.

Like "Old Man Logan," Logan is an alternate future. A "what if."

Logan timeline -> FC - XMO:W - X1 - X2 (maybe) - X3 (maybe) - TW (maybe) - Logan.

Simple as that.
 
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why do people make it harder.there are 2 timelines.

timeline 1-FC.Origins.X-Men.X2.The Last Stand.The wolverine.DOFP

timeline 2-FC.DOFP.Apocalypse.Deadpool.Logan

yes pre 1973 parts of origins and the the wolverine are still part of timeline 2 though most of films erased by DOFP.

future films and fox tv show part of timeline 2.Legion appears to be seperate from films entirely.

people forget the creative team has said some things from films erased because of DOFP still happen in new timeline.the flow of time still goes in same direction.
 
I have to see the movie again to pick out any mentions of previous Xmen movies in regards to the timeline, but I was under the impression that Logan followed the revised timeline from DOFP. No one from Fox ever said it wasn't part of it right? I thought they were going with some sort of continuity.
 
DocLathropBrown said:
It surprises me that people are having this much consternation about it--the timelines are really very simple.

Original timeline -> FC - XMO:W - X1 - X2 - X3 - TW - DOFP (this is the end of the timeline as we saw all the X-Men were about to be killed)

Revised timeline -> FC - DOFP - X:A - Deadpool (DP) (and all other X-movies to come)

Logan makes reference to the original X-Men. However, since the Sentinel takeover of the earth clearly didn't happen (meaning DOFP never happened), Logan is in a timeline of its own.

It cannot be in continuity with the happy ending of DOFP since X1 never happened in the revised timeline. Nothing from the original trilogy did. Not to mention that Logan only takes place 6 years after the happy ending of DOFP and there are young mutants at Xavier's. That doesn't line up with Logan, since he says no new mutants have been born in 25 years. That rules out existing in the revised timeline.

So, since it doesn't allow for the Sentinels, it can't be in the original timeline. And since it has mutant extinction (more or less) then it can't be the revised timeline.

Like "Old Man Logan," Logan is an alternate future. A "what if."

Logan timeline -> FC - XMO:W - X1 - X2 (maybe) - X3 (maybe) - TW (maybe) - Logan.

Simple as that.
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That's a good explanation, but it can be even simpler than that.

Statue of Liberty was only referenced by Logan and Charles, both of whom have memories of the original timeline (McAvoy Charles having seen Logan's mind in DOFP). It's also likely that Logan is in the revised timeline.

However, because Mangold himself said that they kept the timeline vague, you are free to just see Logan as its own thing.
 
I do think Logan is intended to be its own thing and not necessarily be the blueprint of where films eventually go.
 
Haven't seen Logan yet, but this is how I assume the timelines go now based on what I've read

Timeline One (the First Class soft reboot timeline):
• 1962 = X-Men: First Class
• 2000 = (avo)X-Men
• 2003 = (avo)X2: X-Men United
• 2006 = (avo)X-Men: The Last Stand
• 2013 = The Wolverine
• 2015 = The Wolverine After Credits Scene
• 2023 = X-Men: Days of Future Past (Future scenes)

Timeline Two (divergence from Timeline One):
• 1962 = X-Men: First Class
• 1973 = X-Men: Days of Future Past (Past Scenes)
• 1983 = X-Men: Apocalypse
• 2014 - 2015 = Deadpool
• 2023 = X-Men: Days of Future Past (New Future)

______________________________________________
Timeline X (timeline where the continuity errors created by First Class don't exist):
• Charles and Erik meet when they were 17
• Erik helps build cerebro
• Charles gets in wheelchair and Erik goes rogue post-1980s
• 2000 = X-Men
• 2003 = X2: X-Men United
• No more Mutant births 25 years before the events of Logan
• 2006 = X-Men: The Last Stand
• 2013 = The Wolverine (Ending with the classic suit)
• Years of adventures until the Westchester Incident
• 2029 = Logan

Oh, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine goes somewhere, idk

("avo" = A variation of)
 
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