Superman Returns Don't act like an idiot, Lois, you already know who Superman is!

[thealiasman2000]

"Superman Returns" ignores parts 3 and 4, and starts where part 2 left off.

Don't argue the previous statement, cause there is proof: Lex remembers being on the Fortress of Solitude (an event that happened in part 2), Lois fathered a child from Superman (which could only happen when they got intimate in part 2),Lex no longer with Otis (he dumped his sorry ass in part 2),etc.

So,why doesn't Lois remember that Clark and Superman are one and the same?

She keeps acting like they are two different people, yet she found out about Clark's secret identity in part 2!

Why does this happen? Did she forgot or something?

 

[Zigno]

you must see the end of superman 2....

 

[not_a_victim]

"Superman Returns" ignores parts 3 and 4, and starts where part 2 left off.

Don't argue the previous statement, cause there is proof: Lex remembers being on the Fortress of Solitude (an event that happened in part 2), Lois fathered a child from Superman (which could only happen when they got intimate in part 2),Lex no longer with Otis (he dumped his sorry ass in part 2),etc.

So,why doesn't Lois remember that Clark and Superman are one and the same?

She keeps acting like they are two different people, yet she found out about Clark's secret identity in part 2!

Why does this happen? Did she forgot or something?

Wow. How could you really post this, with all the plot details released by the studio? I will leave it up to you to do your research and find out how stupid this is.

 

[thealiasman2000]

Can you please post a reply that answers my question instead of condescending me, insulting me AND ignoring evidence thatwas laid clearly in the actual movie?

 

[not_a_victim]

Uh, no.
See Zigno's post above mine.
Like he implies, you either havent seen all of SMII, or you have forgotten it...
I will give you a hint, you can probably find the footage on youtube or some other video upload site.

 

[not_a_victim]

Edit: Whoops, wrong thread. Sorry.

 

[nogster]

at the end of superman 2. clark gives lois a kiss which wipes her memory of them being together and her knowing he is superman.

and..this opens up a whole new can of worms.
if she didnt know she slept with superman, how come she doesnt FREAK OUT THAT HER SON IS SUPERMANS!?!?!
stupid film. it has flaws everywhere.

 

[thealiasman2000]

at the end of superman 2. clark gives lois a kiss which wipes her memory of them being together and her knowing he is superman.

and..this opens up a whole new can of worms.
if she didnt know she slept with superman, how come she doesnt freak out THAT HER SON IS SUPERMANS!?!?!
stupid film. it has flaws everywhere.

See? That wasn't so hard. No insulting whatoever.

I have a very different beef with Jason altogether.

It being: why the hell didn't that brat use his powers more often?

He could have crushed that steel door with his super sstrength, KO all of Luthor's thugs, and beat the **** out of Luthor for trying to kill him and his mom.

But no; let's just ignore the fact that he has superpowers and treat him like a regular human child.

Don't get me wrong, though: the movie still kicks ass.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Perhaps jason didn't know about his powers until he got angry..they were trying to hurt his mom at the time...


the kid probably doesn't know how he did it..and he seemed quite ashamed of what he had done.

 

[not_a_victim]

at the end of superman 2. clark gives lois a kiss which wipes her memory of them being together and her knowing he is superman.

and..this opens up a whole new can of worms.
if she didnt know she slept with superman, how come she doesnt freak out THAT HER SON IS SUPERMANS!?!?!
stupid film. it has flaws everywhere.

He did not erase her memory, only changed it. She was still able to go back and write her Pulitzer Prize winning article "I spent the night with Superman."
Also, if you noticed in the movie, she was constantly using psychology to convince herself and her son that he was weak. Remember when she interrogated him to find out if he had taken his daily required medicine? SHe was pumping him with the idea that he was weak. After he flung the piano at the guy trying to hurt his mother, he looks at his inhaler, realizes he is stronger than he and she both thought, and tossed it.
Lois was in complete denial about Supes.
1. She denied being in love with him.
2. She denied that he was Supes' son.
3. She denied needing him. That is why she wrote the article about the world not needing Supes. She was basically thinking; "If the world doesn't need him, then neither do I."
4. She didn't have time to freak out. When she realized who he was, she was in too much danger to really deal with the fact. Besides, with as much as she loves SUpes, she is probably thrilled to have had his child.

Edit: Apologies to Nogster. I misread your first statement in your post. You didn't say he erased it, only the part about them being together.

 

[thealiasman2000]

That is more logical than just "she forgot".

Thanks, not_a_victim.

 

[chicagodave]

at the end of superman 2. clark gives lois a kiss which wipes her memory of them being together and her knowing he is superman.

and..this opens up a whole new can of worms.
if she didnt know she slept with superman, how come she doesnt FREAK OUT THAT HER SON IS SUPERMANS!?!?!
stupid film. it has flaws everywhere.

not just that. when she gets pregnant, i mean doesnt she freak out and think how did i get pregnant? lol i think thats just hilarious, soo many flaws, which is why the movie has tanked at the box office.

 

[not_a_victim]

That is more logical than just "she forgot".

Thanks, not_a_victim.

You are welcome, and thank you.
I think she hooked up with the first person she could, so as to deny that her pregnancy was by Supes. Kinda ****ty and devious, but keep in mind that she did not marry the man that she wanted to claim was the father of her child. That gave her a way to easily step out of the relationship with him and take it up with Supes if/when he shows back up.

 

[thealiasman2000]

Following not_a_victim explantion (ie. the logical explanation):

"I've DONE Superman".


She remembers having sex with Superman, she just doesn't remember about him being Clark Kent.

 

[not_a_victim]

Following not_a_victim explantion (ie. the logical explanation):

"I've DONE Superman".


She remembers having sex with Superman, she just doesn't remember about him being Clark Kent.

Again, no. SHe doesn't remember the sex, only that she spent the night in the FOS.

 

[thealiasman2000]

So she truly belived Richard was the father of Jason?

 

[Killgore]

thealiasman2000, have you been kissing Superman yourself?

 

[Galactical]

He did not erase her memory, only changed it. She was still able to go back and write her Pulitzer Prize winning article "I spent the night with Superman."
Also, if you noticed in the movie, she was constantly using psychology to convince herself and her son that he was weak. Remember when she interrogated him to find out if he had taken his daily required medicine? SHe was pumping him with the idea that he was weak. After he flung the piano at the guy trying to hurt his mother, he looks at his inhaler, realizes he is stronger than he and she both thought, and tossed it.
Lois was in complete denial about Supes.
1. She denied being in love with him.
2. She denied that he was Supes' son.
3. She denied needing him. That is why she wrote the article about the world not needing Supes. She was basically thinking; "If the world doesn't need him, then neither do I."
4. She didn't have time to freak out. When she realized who he was, she was in too much danger to really deal with the fact. Besides, with as much as she loves SUpes, she is probably thrilled to have had his child.

Edit: Apologies to Nogster. I misread your first statement in your post. You didn't say he erased it, only the part about them being together.

well the pulitzer's for her article about the world not needing supes not about her night with him.

Her kid's really a sick child (a obvious attempt to throw us off that the kid's was supey's) and she hopes he'll become big and strong like his dad, Richard...

she has no idea the boy's superman's until he throws the piano, or at least that's what I believed. It's later in the hospital that she's acting as if she knew all along and withheld the info from superman i guess.

and really the way you describe lois as this deceptive mother forcing her child to think he's sick is disturbing.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

thealiasman2000, have you been kissing Superman yourself?

Awesome.

 

[not_a_victim]

So she truly belived Richard was the father of Jason?

No, that is the thing about denial.
She WANTED/NEEDED to convince herself that Richard was the fathre.

 

[Killgore]

So she truly belived Richard was the father of Jason?

Yeah, this is the part of the movie that gets goofy. The time line just doesn't make sense. That and the fact that Lois is an investigative reporter who is naturally inquisitive. You'd think she'd be more curious as to why and how she was knocked up with Superman's kid.

 

[thealiasman2000]

well the pulitzer's for her article about the world not needing supes not about her night with superman.

Her kid's really a sick child (a obvious attempt to throw us off that the kid's was supey's) and she hopes he'll become big and strong like his dad, Richard...

she has no idea the boy's superman's until he throws the piano, or at least that's what I believed. It's later in the hospital that she's acting as if she knew all along and withheld the info from superman i guess.

and really the way you describe lois as this deceptive mother forcing her child to think he's sick is disturbing.

In other words, you still hold to your theory even thought there is actual film evidence to support not_a_victim's theory.

And did you miss that OBVIOUS shot of a Daily Planet newspaper with the headline "I'VE SPENT A NIGHT WITH SUPERMAN"? Now who's been kissing Superman?

And hey, the first two movies were actually dark (at least compared to parts 3 and 4), so why can't Lois act in a disturbing manner?

 

[not_a_victim]

well the pulitzer's for her article about the world not needing supes not about her night with superman.

Her kid's really a sick child (a obvious attempt to throw us off that the kid's was supey's) and she hopes he'll become big and strong like his dad, Richard...

she has no idea the boy's superman's until he throws the piano, or at least that's what I believed. It's later in the hospital that she's acting as if she knew all along and withheld the info from superman i guess.

and really the way you describe lois as this deceptive mother forcing her child to think he's sick is disturbing.

No, the child is not really sick. The idea of making a child either think he is sick , or making them sick on purpose is called Munchausen Syndrome. If he really needed his respirator, HE WOULD NOT HAVE THROWN IT AWAY. Notice that as soon as he throws the inhaler away, he quits having asthma signs.
I agree, she may not KNOW that the kid is Supe's, but there are things way deep in the back of your mind that you know, but won't allow youself to accept...

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

In other words, you still hold to your theory even thought there is actual film evidence to support not_a_victim's theory.

And did you miss that OBVIOUS shot of a Daily Planet newspaper with the headline "I'VE SPENT A NIGHT WITH SUPERMAN"? Now who's been kissing Superman?

And hey, the first two movies were actually dark (at least compared to parts 3 and 4), so why can't Lois act in a disturbing manner?

you really are an idiot.

 

[thealiasman2000]

No, the child is not really sick. The idea of making a child either think he is sick , or making them sick on purpose is called Munchausen Syndrome. If he really needed his respirator, HE WOULD NOT HAVE THROWN IT AWAY. Notice that as soon as he throws the inhaler away, he quits having asthma signs.
I agree, she may not KNOW that the kid is Supe's, but there are things way deep in the back of your mind that you know, but won't allow youself to accept...

Are you gonna call HIM an idiot too, Robocop?