But you really can't prove your point about separate universes by using Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic Four on the simple fact that the film rights are owned by separate companies.
If Marvel could do it they would. They tried linking Spider-Man with the Marvel Studios Universe but Sony wouldn't let them.
My point was simply that they clearly don't exist in the same universe, which is clearly true. Just because Marvel would do it differently if they hadn't sold off the rights doesn't change the fact that they all exist in their own universes.
As with DC's films, there really isn't anything that says that they're a separate or fluid universe.
This is true, I just think it appears to be that way.
Right now with the way they're made it's very plausible for Nolan's Batman and Singer's Superman to share the same universe because of the way they were made. But at the same time they can separate the universes of those films further to the point where a crossover would be very dumb because they're too different.
Again, I agree that they could or they couldn't, I just think it's obvious that they have kept their distance for a reason (and honestly I think that reason is Nolan, who doesn't want his work, eh, how do I say "cheapened" by being tied to a larger less grounded superhero universe).
Unlike Marvel, there really isn't anything out there to separate or connect them to make a valid judgment.
No there isn't, my assertions are simply based on my own observation and inference.
Why doesn't he stop crime in Gotham City right now in the comics even with Batman, Green Lantern, Vixen, Wonder Woman, Black Lightning, Power Girl, Thunder, and all the other DC heroes out there?
Because comic books aren't logical -- the standard of realism, continuity, and perception in comic books is much lower than that of movies.
Not only that, but while Nolan may not want Superman in his universe, Bale is completely up for it.
Maybe. You never really know what these guys are thinking, and personally I see Bale finishing up a third movie with Nolan and moving on from the character. But he could be up for a World's Finest or Justice League Movie, it's definitely a possibility.
And if WB wants to mimic Marvel's success and follow their pattern they can put superheroes into Nolan's universe when he's done with it if they want to because ultimately they own the franchise.
True, but all indications show that WB has no idea what they're doing, doesn't intend to follow Marvel, and is nervous about other heroes, let alone adjusting their current properties.
DC can have a film universe with the Batman and Superman film franchises. While there isn't anything at all to connect them at all, it can certainly be done in a plausible way that won't look stupid. Both Nolan and Singer took more realistic approaches to Batman and Superman in who they are, the cities they live in, and making a film in which "What if Batman/Superman lived in our world."
Completely agree on this point.
If you ask me WB needs to do a better job separating them if they want these films to have separate universes or just downright say they're connected if they want to have a film universe and follow the Marvel route.
Honestly, if I had to make a prediction, they're going to be kept separate for awhile until a Justice League movie eventually IS made, one that stars Routh, whoever is going to play GL in the solo flick, and possibly Bale.
WW and Flash I don't see getting their own movies until after that.
