Entourage

[Dark Donnie]

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Ally Musika has (co)wrote a good ep. Gotta Look Up to Get Down the one with Vince and the modeling gig in Season 5. Seth Green Day and Return to Queens Blvd werent bad either.
At first I thought it was IMDB trolling, but I think that Musika does add a femine touch to the show and not in a good way.
I mean in the modelling episode: Vince searched high and low for some girl that he met once a while ago. Vince hasnt chased a girl like that since he was actually in love back in Season 2
And all of the Season 6 Andrew affair and Ashley centric episodes were written by her
Also as people have said Season 7 does have the women holding all the guys by their balls save for Drama

There has been another female writer on the show...and I feel really sh***y and sexist for saying this but I think that a female has ruined the show by making it...femine & female empowering

Considering the plot and characters involved it seems odd to have a woman write such a significant amount of episodes. This is not supposed to be sexist but this show was at its best when it felt like the events on the show mirrored certain celebs and their experiences(DiCaprio, Wahlberg etc.). Doesn't really feel like that as much. Feel like it's taken a dramatic turn since she's come aboard.

 

[piccolo]

Was unaware that the writer was changed to a female. And it explains A LOT.

 

[MadVillainy]

Considering the plot and characters involved it seems odd to have a woman write such a significant amount of episodes. This is not supposed to be sexist but this show was at its best when it felt like the events on the show mirrored certain celebs and their experiences(DiCaprio, Wahlberg etc.). Doesn't really feel like that as much. Feel like it's taken a dramatic turn since she's come aboard.

Well they say this Vince/Sasha storyline is mirroring Charlie Sheen's actions with that Hollywood madame. I just hope they make it a full scale scandal soon because other than an Award show Scandals are the only thing Entourage hasnt shown us in terms of Hollywood

 

[piccolo]

The show is a shell of itself 4-5 years ago IMO. I'll still catch every ep live until it ends, because I love it. But this season is just aggravating to me.

People have talked about the female writer who has completely changed the tone, and I agree with them. EVERY female on this show holds the cards. It is annoying and is not what Entourage is about. They've made every single woman some kind of bad ass chick: Babs is annoyingly cocky and straining on the eyes. The Mexican chick is toying with Turtle. The female agents, and now this filthy Sasha Grey is acting like she isn't one step shy of working the corner. It all just bugs me; what do I care about Ari getting an NFL team (that would be fictional), fighting over Jessica Simpson, Vince pitching tequila, Scott Caan acting like he's been on the show for ages, how Sasha Grey chose her porn name, and blah blah blah.

And it was never more apparent a woman was writing the show then when Vince went through a traumatizing experience so he did what? HE CUT HIS HAIR. Because that's what men do.

Wait, no, that's what women do.

hahaha so true

And everything you said is true. Its been pretty amusing watching everyone go through the past couple eps pretending Sasha Gray isn't a filthy ****e.

And the whole "keep a journal on Ari's sexist rants!" thing makes more sense now too. I don't think any male writer would even have fathomed that.

Plus the whole strange thing about Turtle seeing a shaved vagina and being too freaked out to perform....only a woman could have come up with that. I don't think thats ever happened to any man in the history of civilization.

 

[MadVillainy]

Its weird because a female centric show Sex and the City has had multiple male writers since Season 1

 

[Dark Donnie]

hahaha so true

And everything you said is true. Its been pretty amusing watching everyone go through the past couple eps pretending Sasha Gray isn't a filthy ****e.

And the whole "keep a journal on Ari's sexist rants!" thing makes more sense now too. I don't think any male writer would even have fathomed that.

Plus the whole strange thing about Turtle seeing a shaved vagina and being too freaked out to perform....only a woman could have come up with that. I don't think thats ever happened to any man in the history of civilization.

Completely agree.

 

[Travesty]

Plus the whole strange thing about Turtle seeing a shaved vagina and being too freaked out to perform....only a woman could have come up with that. I don't think thats ever happened to any man in the history of civilization.

That, and E being scared about giving anal. I don't know of any guy who is scared of that, in fact, that's kinda the goal, sometimes. Now, I understand if the girl doesn't like it or what-not(which you don't try, then), but she was into trying, and E was like, "ahhh, but I'm scared about it. Let me look up how to do it on the internet". How to do anal!?!? I'm pretty sure it's the EXACT same thing as regular sex, except, and here's the kicker, it's in her anus!

 

[piccolo]

I got news for you, man. Its not the same as regular sex....not even close. haha

 

[Travesty]

I got news for you, man. Its not the same as regular sex....not even close. haha

Hehe, wow. I'm talking on just a penetration angle. I'm pretty sure you don't need to google "how to do anal sex with my girlfriend" to figure it out...which was my point. I've never looked at my penis, and my girls ass, and thought, "now how am I supposed to do this? Boy I'm scared".

 

[El Bastardo]

Lots of guys don't like anal. Lots of guys don't like oral, actually. Getting it, I mean.

And Sasha Grey may be a filthy ****e, but she's hot. So who cares?

 

[MadVillainy]

She isnt event that hot. Shes meh
Dania Ramirez, Emmanuelle Chriqui, Carla Gugino>>>Sasha Grey\

and to me the anal thing was really weird to watch and then as others said Turtle's "problem" with Alex was beyond stupid

 

[piccolo]

And Sasha Grey may be a filthy ****e, but she's hot. So who cares?

Not on the show. Her face has looked like a trainwreck the past couple weeks.

And I didn't say I wouldn't do her. But that doesn't make everyone walking around acting like she doesn't do and say unspeakable things in her movies any less amusing.

 

[Golgo-13]

Lots of guys don't like anal. Lots of guys don't like oral, actually. Getting it, I mean.

And Sasha Grey may be a filthy ****e, but she's hot. So who cares?

What planet are you living on? I've never heard a guy say he hates receiveing oral.........ever

She isnt event that hot. Shes meh
Dania Ramirez, Emmanuelle Chriqui, Carla Gugino>>>Sasha Grey\

and to me the anal thing was really weird to watch and then as others said Turtle's "problem" with Alex was beyond stupid

QFT on all accounts.

I think Vince gets dumper and dumper each season. Carla Gugino is definitely the hottest woman he's ever been with.

 

[El Bastardo]

And I didn't say I wouldn't do her. But that doesn't make everyone walking around acting like she doesn't do and say unspeakable things in her movies any less amusing.

Are we watching the same show? Sasha's introduction, Turtle and Drama know she's a pornstar. Scott Caan's character knows it. Stan Lee figures it out. By this episode everyone's up in arms about it. Walsh can't stand being in touching-distance of her - due to his rehab, of course - but as if she's a walking salvo of diseases. And we have everyone else up in arms that Vince is going off the deep end and dating a pornstar.

Unless you're crying because they don't have the characters making direct quotes from her movies, which wouldn't actually fit into any of the scenes, and in which case I'd love to see just how much of a train wreck your proposed television script would be.

What planet are you living on? I've never heard a guy say he hates receiveing oral.........ever

Do some looking around. Dan Savage spoke about it just recently, about a month to a month-and-a-half ago. There are multiple cases for it, both heterosexual and homosexual.

I don't see how it's that shocking. Sexual tastes are as basic to the brain as food preferences. This guy over here likes tomatos, and I don't. This other guy over there enjoys using handcuffs and is into bondage, and that other guy doesn't like getting oral.

 

[piccolo]

hahaha white knighting sasha gray, now i've seen it all

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Oy, when they stick to business as usual, people complain and when they try something new people complain.

I don't mind that they're trying something new, it's how they're going about it. Take last weekends episode cliffhanger. [blackout]Vince is passed out naked, and drunk, by his pool[/blackout]. It sort of reminded me of the "Demon in a Bottle" storyarc from Iron Man. One drink and Iron Man is officially an alcoholic. So, [blackout]Vince goes on a bender and has a wee bit too much fun, so what? It all reeks of that "very special episode" syndrome. Moreover, the one leading him down this path is a porn star. To me that's kind of cliche'. Why does the porn star have to be the bad influence, seems way too obvious. [/blackout]I'm fine with what they're doing in concept, but it seems kind of weak in it's execution.

 

[DIRECTOR]

I myself don't like bushes

 

[goh78]

Lots of guys don't like anal. Lots of guys don't like oral, actually. Getting it, I mean.

And Sasha Grey may be a filthy ****e, but she's hot. So who cares?

Because Vince used to bang real life chicks - Mandy Moore, Jamie Pressley, Ali Larter was crazy for him in the pilot, he nailed that blond chick before Kimmel, etc. So seeing him now with this piece of trash who pays the rent by gargling penis is, 'off'. Maybe that's what they're going for, I don't know.

Buy it's aggravating that she is so excepted and the writers are clearly trying to make her look cool and educated and intelligent, but it's always in the back of my head that I can pull her up online bent over in 20 seconds flat. I call it the Kardashian syndrome.

 

[El Bastardo]

Excepted, she is. Accepted, she is not.

Who has accepted her? Turtle and Drama. And Scott Caan's character. Yeah, they're some good judges of character. Everyone else is up in arms that Vince may or may not be dating a pornstar. Ari. E. Shauna. The Airwalker director guy. The studio head. And I bet more people, once we see fallout from the twitter debacle.

Also, if you seriously think the charater of Vince, as portrayed in all previous seasons, would never have banged a pornstar had he the chance, you've got a seriously different interpretation of the character than I and the majority of viewers do. But it's never come up before, or been written into the show before, so it's been a moot point until now.

Sasha Grey is, actually, a rather educated and intelligent person. What, does being in porn somehow negate that? Are they mutually exclusive? One cannot possibly go hand-in-hand with the other? Seriously, think about what you wrote there. I call it stupid-logic syndrome.

 

[DIRECTOR]

you guys do realize that there is a point to Vince cutting his hair, him dating Sasha Grey, his constant drinking, and his "I don't give a ****" attitude are leading him to some sort of dramatic downfall.

So, Vince currently dating Sasha is a metaphor or foreshadowing of future events that we have yet to see,.......... PROBABLY GOING THE LINDSEY LOHAN ROUTE ya na wat i'm sayin??

 

[Matt]

Exactly. I actually think it is an interesting route to take the character.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

you guys do realize that there is a point to Vince cutting his hair, him dating Sasha Grey, his constant drinking, and his "I don't give a ****" attitude are leading him to some sort of dramatic downfall.

So, Vince currently dating Sasha is a metaphor or foreshadowing of future events that we have yet to see,.......... PROBABLY GOING THE LINDSEY LOHAN ROUTE ya na wat i'm sayin??

I think the Lindsey Lohan route is exactly where they are going. In fact, I don't mind that, I just mind the execution. Really partying and wild times were always part of the show, now their trying to demonize behavior that's actually very common to everyone. I've known people who go on 16 hour benders, pass out naked, and are absolutely fine the next week. It reminds me of when Full House would do their "very special episode", and Kimmi would get offered a beer and it would be treated like her friends asked her to rape and murder a little child. I don't mind retooling Vince's character, especially if it's to make him more interesting because usually I find him to be less interesting than his supporting cast. I do mind them doing it in such a cartoonish and cliche' fashion. The scene at the end of last episode was treated very seriously, as if to imply it was some startling revelation. To me though it just looked like classic drunk behavior, something that probably occurs a good 500 times an hour out in LA.

 

[MadVillainy]

I like that theyre going with a Vince downfall its just that I want to see it happen quicker and for them to identify it as a problem.
Right now the drinking doesnt seem that bad because either Turtle or Johnny are doing it with them
His whole relationship with Sasha isnt that bad because he was banging a Madame back in season 2
The little quote that Vince said that he took a vicodin was brushed off in the most recent ep.

And that whole meeting with Stan Lee was kind of...meh. Obviously it was bad that he brought a pornstar and the kept talking to him about being drunk, but he didnt even seem that wasted to me.

I guess to make a long post short I want them to push the envelope more sooner. There already on episode 7 with 3 more episodes to go and it doesnt seem like Vince REALLY has a problem yet.

And this whole back and forth ppl are having about Sasha Grey. Yes, she might be an intelligent person and might be on her way to become a legitimate actress, but the fact remains that she used to have sex for money which is why alot of people dont take her seriously

 

[El Bastardo]

It's all about relations, Blackman.

The drinking is that bad, and that's shown because he's doing it with Turtle and Drama. Drama's an angry drunk and self-destroyer. Turtle's a tag-along loser most of the time, not to mention a druggie. Note that straight-man Eric is not along for the ride here, which means it's one big situation of down-the-spiral.

While the relationship with Sasha need not necessarily be bad, it is because it's clearly representative of said downward spiral. Her character likes drug-use and likes bad boys - maybe not that cut and dry, per se, and while they might have had a fling just through star power, it wouldn't have lasted were Vince still acting calm and rational and respectable. Rather, he's allowing her to lead him around - she's a bad influence, strictly, whereas Drama and Turtle are mutual give-and-take with Vince (and always have been).

The vicodin statement being brushed off represents no one paying attention to the growing problem - the general idea that no one pays attention until it's too late, as was exhibited with the cliffhanger ending of the most recent episode. Eric's been covering his bases. Ari's been off doing his own thing. No one's been watchdogging Vince at a time when he's needed it, and E's been quick to make excuses.

The meet with Stan Lee was a matter of perception. Vince didn't seem that wasted, sure, but he was perceived to be, and that perception was worse once they connected he brought a pornstar with him.

 

[kguillou]

I think Sasha Grey is doing great on the show so far. If i didnt know she was a porn star, i would've thought she was just a regular upcoming actress.

I think the last few episodes have been great and the show is really picking up steam. I wasn't quite sure what the hell they were doing during the first 4 episodes but now things are heating up. Ari's storyline is my favorite, there's just no stopping Jeremy Piven. We could be potentially witnessing the fall of the Gold empire. Turtle's storyline.....eh not so great. I dont really care about his tequila thing and his relationship with Dania Ramirez doesn't seem authentic. They need to bring back Jamie Lynn Sigler!

And has anyone realized theres only 10 more episodes left of this show? 4 more this season and 6 next summer, then thats it...entourage is over. Man, i feel like all the good shows are ending.