Escape from New York (Remake)

[Advanced Dark]

I just busted one when I read this! My freaking God I can't wait!!!!!!! This is going to be a popular topic! The original is one of my favorite films of all time. Top 20 for sure. The sequel blew ass but can you imagine what they could have done with this franchise? Now we'll see and with a real budget!!!

You know you're pinching yourself now.t:

Butler has 'Escape' plan

'300' star heads to 'New York'

By MICHAEL FLEMING

Butler

Hot off the socko bow of "300" this past weekend, star Gerard Butler is at the center of a package that CAA began shopping Monday for a remake of John Carpenter's 1981 actioner "Escape From New York."

Neal Moritz is attached to produce, with "Black Hawk Down" scribe Ken Nolan penning the screenplay.
Several studios are battling for the pic, mostly because the $70 million launch of "300" signaled the arrival of an emerging action star in Butler. A deal is expected to be made this week.
Butler would play Snake Plissken, the one-eyed convict who's charged with heading into the inescapable maximum security prison formerly known as Manhattan to liberate the U.S. president. Kurt Russell originated the role and reprised it in the 1996 sequel "Escape to L.A."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117961020.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

 

[Darth Elektra]

Awsome!

 

[Advanced Dark]

Actually this is more awesome than anything that has been awesome before. I couldn't wait for Escape from LA thinking it'd get a big budget and be a great action flick. What a screw up that was. With a hard R rated 300 film doing so well hopefully they give it a solid budget and cast and make it right.

Kurt Russell has to play The President.

 

[Tempest19]

Um, actually I don't know how I feel about this... I love the original and I really can't see a remake of it. Which I never thought I'd hear myself say before-

It would have to be Cronenburg good to shed the light for me.

Gerald Butler is a great action hero and actor, but I think no one can ever live up to Kurt Russel in the role. It's kind of like replacing Malcolm McDowell in Clockwork Orange... sure it could be done, probably Cilian Murphey could fit the bill... but, what I'm trying to say is that the character is ICONIC and Russel brought A LOT to the role...

I don't know about this one- hoping for a Cronenburg... (The Fly remake being amazing).

One thing that worries is me is the dirrection that they may take it, the more restrictive budget forced Carpenter into being more creative in some of the choices he made. And they might go too "Hollywood" with it-

 

[Advanced Dark]

Nobody can copy what Kurt did for the role but Butler could give us an all new take on the character. Let's face it Kurt is too old and the story is awesome. No doubt it could be really wild with a big enough budget and updated a bit from the late 70's early 80's mindset of the first script. Don't think of it as Butler being better than Russell but just...different.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Boooooo. Get some ****ing originality come on. Keep ****ing up classics to make a buck.

 

[Tempest19]

Main fear though is them doing 'wild with a big enough budget' that they will go too "hollywood" with it...

It really depends on how it's done.

 

[Advanced Dark]

They already tried that w/Escape from LA and totally made the film a joke. Sanitizing what is clearly R Rated franchise never pans out well for a continuing franchise. See Riddick.

 

[Crooklyn]

This film was before my time, I just read a synopsis...but doesn't the plot itself CALL for it to be a Hollywood blockbuster type of flick?

 

[Advanced Dark]

Boooooo. Get some ****ing originality come on. Keep ****ing up classics to make a buck.

Escape from NY is a film that I think would be a great remake. Just because other remakes have been screwed up doesn't mean all remakes will be screwed up. Look at The Thing. That was a remake of a classic disguised as a sequel. Before you assume they're gonna screw it up let's see who they hire as the director and see how the cast fills up. I hate it when they screw up remakes like The Hitcher.

 

[Advanced Dark]

This film was before my time, I just read a synopsis...but doesn't the plot itself CALL for it to be a Hollywood blockbuster type of flick?

Yep. That doesn't mean it has to lose the fun of the first film. They can still make a quality blockbuster film. I haven't seen 300 yet but I'm sure that's one. Spiderman film are. WHy not Snake Plisken. The studio must know this is not a one film deal that it's a potential big franchise. There are a load of directors I'd want for this. Imagine Ridley Scott.

 

[Tempest19]

??? How does Riddick fit in? What I'm saying is, I'm afraid that they'll go overly Hollywood with it... part of LA is they went too over the top in some instances- the location of New York also established the tone.

So to me, this is like remaking the first Terminator because they can now go "wild and crazy" with the effects- which is what scares me... I don't want a "wild and crazy" film- I want a film that is true to the original and not a "hollywood" styled version of the film.

A film true to the original source material would be a success again... with some parts updated, of course, but what if they "update" it too much?

As I said, I'll wait for further news... if it's a Cronenberg ("the fly"- one of the best remakes of all time), then I'm all for it.... if it's "Hollywood" with a music video director- agh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As I said, it's too early to get excited for a film like this because it can easily turn one way (awesome) or another (a disgrace to the original)...

 

[Advanced Dark]

Riddick was a PG-13 film that should have been an R rated franchise and actually Riddick is similar to Pliskin in many ways.

Who would I like to see in the role over Gerard Butler though would be:

Tom Jane

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Escape from NY is a film that I think would be a great remake. Just because other remakes have been screwed up doesn't mean all remakes will be screwed up. Look at The Thing. That was a remake of a classic disguised as a sequel. Before you assume they're gonna screw it up let's see who they hire as the director and see how the cast fills up. I hate it when they screw up remakes like The Hitcher.

I didn't say that. But I do think a majority of remakes don't even have to be remade but are just getting the treatment to milk the franchise for all it is worth. If you give me the list of remakes I am pretty sure a good one is rare to spot. This movie doesn't need to be remade it is a classic movie. They are already adapting Metal Gear Solid to the big screen how hilarious would it be if they released them in the same month. No matter which way you try and defend it I always hate the idea of remaking movies I already love.

And for the record Riddick was doomed from the get-go.

 

[Tempest19]

Hell yeah, now THAT would be a better choice... just replace Plisken with the Punisher, add some Plisken personality and look to him- and then you've got a possible replacement. Even has a somewhat similar tone of voice to Plisken (going off memory)... in Punisher, Thomas Jane really pulled off the hardcore give no **** bad ass... whereas GB was more of a strong, reserved, yet pissed off general whose voice and "battle cries" can call his men into action and give them strength for battle.

In other words, who have I seen be more "bad ass"? Thomas Jane...

Though GB could definitely pull it off as well...

But, as I said- it all depends on the direction they are taking with the property.

 

[Advanced Dark]

If you give me the list of remakes I am pretty sure a good one is rare to spot.

I agree but that's because very few movies/franchises are worthy of being remade. Carpenter made a masterpiece but Snake Plisken should have been in more than one great film. That was a franchise that would have been embraced by everyone if they would have continued in the right direction. Pliskin deserves a second chance and I think Butler will do the role justice...just in a different way. He's not gonna act like Kurt Russell. He'll have to make the role his own or forget it.

I'm gonna remain highly optimisitc until a director is announced. This is now my #1 most anticipated film. That could change real quick with the wrong director or storyline.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

But that is the thing. Russell IS Snake Pliskin. Nobody will ever outdo or live up to the character he portrayed. Just obviously Hollywood doing the old "Hmm can't think of anything...let's try and milk some more money off an old classic!"

 

[GoldGoblin]

This is gonna be a great movie.

 

[cryptic name]

it already is a great movie

 

[Advanced Dark]

But that is the thing. Russell IS Snake Pliskin. Nobody will ever outdo or live up to the character he portrayed. Just obviously Hollywood doing the old "Hmm can't think of anything...let's try and milk some more money off an old classic!"

He is just like Keaton was Batman and Tobey is Spidey, and Connery was Bond. Things change. This franchise deserves it. Of courese there's more F'ups than not but I think the studio that gets it realizes how great this could be. It's not just milking money off a classic though because I feel this franchise deserves more and they can't just make a sequel w/out Russell 20 years later and pretend LA didn't exist. Start it over and see if it works out. If it does...a franchise is reborn. They're going after big talent now or "hot" talent so let's see who the director is. If it's McG I'm gonna boycott this film. The premise is also not gonna be the same. It's going to be updated like I said from the thinking of today's society. Maybe it'll be 300 years on the future or something and be more sci-fi. Maybe it'll have more horror aspects to it. We don't know yet. Let's not assume the worst.

 

[Advanced Dark]

it already is a great movie

Yep and it could be a great franchise with the updated film tech/f-x, and advances we've made since 1981. This is over 25 years later. It's worth a shot. This always should have been at least a trilogy of quality films. I wanted to see more of Snake leading up to his arrest. Carpenter did great with almost no budget and it does show but the story and Russell were so great it was easy to overlook.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Why not assume the worst?? My hopes are down and if the slim chance that it comes out good it will be awesome for me. If I hold my hopes up high thinking that is going to be ass kickass as the original then chances are I am going to be disappointed. Hoping for the worst is actually best for me. I mean this is like remaking Hallowe....oh.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Halloween was 2 dimensional though great slasher/horror movie...where Escape from NY has very colorful characters. But assuming the worse can make a mediocre movie seem great. LOL Sci-Fi is my thing so I can't wait. I thought Riddick was the next Snake Pliskin franchise and sure enough they screwed that one up but not as bad as Escape from LA. I was so pissed watching "LA" that I almost walked out. It had a few cool moments but the audience that waited all those years to see it got Kurt Russell as Snake Plisken...and a crappy movie.

 

[zer00]

This is...just an early april fools right? I bet it is. No way humanity is this ****ing stupid and against the rights.

And in regards to anything blades(AD) is saying: He makes no points that change my mind.

 

[Advanced Dark]

This is...just an early april fools right? I bet it is. No way humanity is this ****ing stupid and against the rights.

And in regards to anything blades(AD) is saying: He makes no points.

How I saw you post (since you're on ignore) I don't know Zeroo but there you go again turning a thread into a forum for your personal attacks. You're famous for doing that not just to me which you've been doing for quite some time but to other's on the board here. Leave the personal comments out of your posts please and grow up. It's not just the content of the post above it's the consistentcy of the little hit and run tactics you use and the subtle personal comments that. You seem to be fixated on me.