Infinity War Everybody's Role in Infinity Wars.

[ernesth100]

Here we discuss the roles the heroes will have in Infinity Wars.

Avengers-obvious they will be the main heroes, likely the team to deliver the finishing blow to Thanos.
Gaurdians(If they are involved)-will possibly play the role of extra muscle needed to help defeat Thanos.
Phase 3 Heroes-By the end of Civil War Spider-Man will probably be an honorary Avenger or something along those lines. So it'd be not to far off to assume he's there with the Avengers. Black Panther can help the Avengers get into space/research ways to get past the power of the Infinity Gauntlet. Doctor Stranges enchantments can help the heroes breath in space, possibly even enchant the normal heroes weapons, like Hawkeyes bow and Widows stingers. Give them extra power. Captain Marvel will probably bring Avengers and Gaurdians together if Gaurdians are involved.


I'm also assuming Thanos won't be captured just yet. And that his war with the heroes will possibly awaken the Inhuman society. Setting up Phase 4. What do you guys think?

 

[Godzillasaurus]

Simple. Every hero and whatever support they may receive against Thanos

There is no such thing as overkill here: everyone needs to fight hard; no "main heroes" and whatnot

 

[InternetPeople]

Most of the characters are cannon fodder

 

[ernesth100]

Well when going up against Thanos it is too be expected.

 

[MbJ]

Most of the characters are cannon fodder

I would be very surprised if anyone dies and their deaths aren't reversed by the end of the movie(s).

My thought is that Black Panther could be the one providing tech or funding if Iron Man is not in the picture immediately after Civil War.

 

[KINGTHANOS]

I'm almost positive that there will be no "final blow" to defeat Thanos, he'll simply defeat himself like in the comics. Unless the Living Tribunal or the One Above All interfere, Thanos with the IG cannot be defeated.

 

[charlesmwatts]

Space - These are the Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The true powerhouses.
Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch and Vision.
Skies of Earth - Flying Heroes and Aircraft
Falcon, War Machine, Wasp, Nova, Guardians Spaceship, Quinjet piloted by Hawkeye and Helicarrier
On the Ground - Ground Based Heroes
Spider-Man, Captain America, Black Widow, Black Panther, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Ant-Man/Giant-Man and Quake
In Support - Around the Globe and Tactical Support
Agents of Shield, SWORD, Nick Fury, Iron Legion, The Warriors Three and Sif, Wakanda Army and Reavers

 

[TalismanRing]

Simple. Every hero and whatever support they may receive against Thanos

There is no such thing as overkill here: everyone needs to fight hard; no "main heroes" and whatnot

The movie still needs structure with narrative and character focal points. A two hour brawl mishmash would be a complete mess as well as dull after 15 minutes.

Thanos also needs to be defeated or at least tricked into defeating himself by one of the Avengers otherwise there is no narrative pay off and it makes all the characters useless cannon fodder.

 

[Protar]

There are only so many characters that can fit into one movie of course. So I think that part one will focus on the New Avengers (Ant Man, Black Panther, Spider Man, Doctor Strange, Winter Soldier, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, War Machine, and Wasp) fighting the first wave of Thanos' forces, while the original Avengers are all somehow incapacitated. The film will begin with Vision being killed by Thanos to retrieve the mind gem and end in a pyrrhic victory for the Avengers - Thanos' lieutenants are defeated but they manage to retrieve another gem for him. The New Avengers launch a mission to bring back the old Avengers.

Part 2 focuses primarily on the old team, however due to his popularity I think Spider Man will have a big role in both and Captain Marvel (whose origins will be seen between the two parts) will be pivotal in defeating Thanos. The film will open on Zandar, with Thanos fighting the Guardians of the Galaxy for the final Infinity Stone. They lose and chase Thanos to earth. Once the Old team is put back together, everyone else will be mostly cameos. I'd like the final film to have a pretty tight focus to be honest.

 

[ernesth100]

I think thats why its two parts. So they can fit half in one movie and half in the other. And possibly all in the finale.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I think thats why its two parts. So they can fit half in one movie and half in the other. And possibly all in the finale.

I'm betting part one is Thanos' quest to gather all the gems with part two being the actual "war".

Either that or throughout phase 3 they show Thanos collecting the gems either as plots of the movie or post-credits scenes. With Infinity Wars opening with the destruction/death of Vision for the Mind Gem.

 

[InternetPeople]

I would be very surprised if anyone dies and their deaths aren't reversed by the end of the movie(s).

My thought is that Black Panther could be the one providing tech or funding if Iron Man is not in the picture immediately after Civil War.

My point was the characters from TV and Netflix will not do anything except get in the way and die. The vast majority of characters are redundant when throwing them all at one guy. I agree with you and expect any deaths to be reversed at the end of IW. It would be weird to not have them resurrected.

Wakanda's tech could fill the role of Stark after CW however I think Stark's role in the MCU is changing to reflect an older, experienced Tony rather than recasting and shoving a young, vibrant, out-of-continuity IM at us. For IW, Tony will suit up, that's a given. Maybe the heroes have to use Wakanda's space ships, assuming they exist. I'm not a fan of fighting in space. Thanos needs to come to Earth to retrieve the stones, you don't take the stones to Thanos.

So we agree on Wakanda's potential role after CW, but the thing is, between CW and IWpt1, there are only Dr. Strange and Spiderman films set on Earth. The other films are GotGv2 and Thor3, neither of which will be on Earth. What all this means is that whatever role Wakanda would play filling the tech gap for the Avengers would be done off-screen as Wakanda will be unlikely to have any role in Dr. Strange or Spiderman.

 

[InternetPeople]

I'm betting part one is Thanos' quest to gather all the gems with part two being the actual "war".

Either that or throughout phase 3 they show Thanos collecting the gems either as plots of the movie or post-credits scenes. With Infinity Wars opening with the destruction/death of Vision for the Mind Gem.

I was about to reply to say the same thing. The fact that Captain Marvel and Black Panther are in the middle of the IW should be a hint that there is more story to tell between the two parts. Thanos collecting the stones scattered around in Pt 1 and the actual fight on Earth in Pt 2. I do think Thanos pops up in either GotGv2 or Thor3 to begin the quest as both of those properties are strongly tied to the Infinity Stones. I think Thanos showing up and displaying some power (killing Odin perhaps?) would be helpful to raising his profile among the audience and showing him taking the first real steps on the Infinity Quest.

I think the death of Vision may be the end of IWpt1, not the beginning. Though, you really don't want Thanos getting all the stones too early because that kills the story. The story is in the collection of the stones, not the achievement. Vision probably dies near the opening of IWpt2.

 

[bubbadoom]

I am assuming IW1 will feature the new team of Avengers in their only outing as a team [since they are divided in CW] and will end with them getting in over their heads and the old guard returns in IW2 to save them and join forces in stopping Thanos...

 

[bubbadoom]

I can see part one ending with Thanos ripping the stone from the Vision's forehead - that would be a good "we're all screwed" moment for the rest of the new team and make for a good cliff hanger.

Assuming that Hulk is still MIA and Thor is probably a captive of Thanos' it will be up to Iron Man in part two to find Banner and gather a force to come to the aid of his pals...

 

[InternetPeople]

The big four actors are signed to appear in both IW films.

It seems there are a lot of folks that believe Thanos will complete the gauntlet at the end of IWpt1. I'm curious what y'all think would happen in the Captain Marvel and Black Panther films that will be released between the two IW films if Thanos has already gathered all the stones. I'm also curious when y'all think Thanos will gather them the stones. And then what is the plot of IWpt2?

Seriously, Marvel is not going to leave Cap, Iron Man, Thor and Hulk out of an Avengers movie until they are done with the characters. Thanos needs time to gather the stones and that won't happen off-screen, so where does it happen? What will the plot of Captain Marvel and Black Panther be if Thanos has already completed his quest? These things need to happen in a particular order or risk confusion in a series of films that already has a ton of stuff happening.

 

[Protar]

The big four actors are signed to appear in both IW films.

It seems there are a lot of folks that believe Thanos will complete the gauntlet at the end of IWpt1. I'm curious what y'all think would happen in the Captain Marvel and Black Panther films that will be released between the two IW films if Thanos has already gathered all the stones. I'm also curious when y'all think Thanos will gather them the stones. And then what is the plot of IWpt2?

Seriously, Marvel is not going to leave Cap, Iron Man, Thor and Hulk out of an Avengers movie until they are done with the characters. Thanos needs time to gather the stones and that won't happen off-screen, so where does it happen? What will the plot of Captain Marvel and Black Panther be if Thanos has already completed his quest? These things need to happen in a particular order or risk confusion in a series of films that already has a ton of stuff happening.

Just because those movies take place between the two Infinity Wars I don't think it will necessarily mean that their plots will be intrinsically tied to Infinity War. Marvel will want their debut films to stand at least somewhat on their own I would think.

Imo part 1 will be Thanos' lieutenants gathering the rest of the stones for him but the New Avengers stopping them from destroying earth. So it will be a pyrrhic victory/loss.

They'll flee back to Thanos and in between Infinity Wars we'll have a lull in the action, allowing Black Panther and Captain Marvel to pursue their own plots and giving the New Avengers time to reeasemble the scattered old team.

Then part 2 will be Thanos retrieving the final Stone at the start and then launching his attack on Earth.

 

[InternetPeople]

Thanos is done with lieutenants. He said so himself. He may send a force to Earth to soften the resistance meaning a Kree invasion and giving Mar-Vell some reason to be on Earth but Thanos isn't relying on anyone anymore.

Hey, we agree on IWpt2 Clearly, there's going to be more to it but Thanos won't complete the gauntlet until pt2.

I don't know if Black Panther and Captain Marvel will happen concurrently with IWpt1 or not. I suspect they will. Danvers gets her powers from Mar-Vell who turns on the Kree invading forces and fights isolated from a larger fight seen in IWpt1. Panther heads back to Wakanda to gather vibranium or whatever for the fight in IWpt1 and finds Man-Ape conducting a coup and allowing Klaw access to the vibranium. All these threads merge in IWpt2 and the confrontation with Thanos.

The trick is to figure out how the plots of these individual movies tie into and advance the larger story. I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I'm just excited to see what they will do. However, if these movies are running concurrently, then Marvel will be making movie history (like they haven't already) and creating an amazing story to follow.

 

[ernesth100]

I still want Gaurdians involved.

 

[InternetPeople]

So do I but they wouldn't be drawn to Earth without Thanos leading the way. They don't know there are stones on Earth so they wouldn't come here of their own volition. I expect to see Guardians in IWpt1 only in space following Thanos on his path of destruction. On Xandar they pick up the remnants of Nova Corp to build what coalition they can to fight Thanos. I also expect them to reach Earth in pt2 and meet up with the Avengers bolstering their strength to (spoiler alert) ultimately defeat Thanos.