Fattest man in the world...is British?!?!

[Lantern Venom]

It's called being greedy.

If he's smart, he could use this situation to his advantage. After his surgery, if he commits himself to counseling and fitness, he could get a book deal/speaking engagements out of it. That way he could watch his bank account grow instead of his waist line.

 

[Timstuff]

England is terrible when it comes to accomodating free loaders. America isn't quite as bad yet, but depending on how this next election goes we might be catching up really soon.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

20,000 calories a day? WTF???

And I thought I was bad, cuz I do about 3k on a fairly regular basis.

 

[Lantern Venom]

England is terrible when it comes to accomodating free loaders. America isn't quite as bad yet, but depending on how this next election goes we might be catching up really soon.

I don't think so. It seems to me that the health care crisis is leading to the GOV encouraging healthy behaviors. Cigarettes went up something like 90 cents a pack. After a surgery in april, I got a call from my health insurance company offering me free counseling for arthritis prevention/management. Sure signs that society is recognizing that we need to stop health problems before they happen, if possible.

 

[Timstuff]

I'm trying to take in no more than 1800 calories a day, and if I have 2000 calories or more I consider it a bad day. This guy though-- freakin' Freud that's a lot of food. Who the heck is paying for all that? Doesn't the government ever audit his spending if he's bottom feeding off of the welfare system? If this were America he would run out of food stamps pretty quick.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It is NOTHING like those things.

They would be caused by accidents. Plus those people are healthy enough to work, thusly, pay taxes. This guy doesn't contribute to the country AT ALL.

Not years upon years upon years upon years upon years upon years of sheer, utter gluttony and laziness.

There is people out there with real problems who have to wait for medical service, sometimes not getting any atall.

But this fat ****er gets one? No, that ain't gonna fly.

Bolded = So could someone who smokes themselves into lung cancer - so wouldn't they be eligible for surgery too? I mean, if I am paying taxes into health care, I'd want access to any surgeries that I might need, self inflicted or not.

 

[Timstuff]

You both have highlighted just how stupid the concept of a babysitter government is. If the government is paying for your well being, then technically they should require responsibility from the people who they are paying for. If you are abusing your own body, it means that you are abusing the government healthcare system. Are you a big fat fatty? You should have eaten less, so why should the people pay for your gastric bypass? Have lung cancer? You shouldn't have been smoking, so why should the people pay for your chemo? Do you have herpies? Did you catch an STD? You could have kept your pants zipped up, so why should the people pay for your ointment?

My attitude is, private insurance is a much better system, because then people can be as irresponsible as they can afford. If you can't afford to be irresponsible, then maybe that will encourage you to take better care of your body than that idiot who's smoking a pack a day and banging every woman he can get the pants off of.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

You both have highlighted just how stupid the concept of a babysitter government is. If the government is paying for your well being, then technically they should require responsibility from the people who they are paying for. If you are abusing your own body, it means that you are abusing the government healthcare system. Are you a big fat fatty? You should have eaten less, so why should the people pay for your gastric bypass? Have lung cancer? You shouldn't have been smoking, so why should the people pay for your chemo? Do you have herpies? Did you catch an STD? You could have kept your pants zipped up, so why should the people pay for your ointment?

My attitude is, private insurance is a much better system, because then people can be as irresponsible as they can afford. If you can't afford to be irresponsible, then maybe that will encourage you to take better care of your body than that idiot who's smoking a pack a day and banging every woman he can get the pants off of.

Problem is, not everyone can afford private health care.

I go to school full time, and I work as many hours as I can outside of that - usually between 20-30 hours. But because I am 26, and no longer a dependent of my parents, I don't have access to health care unless I pay for it (I don't work enough hours at my work to get health care through work), and on the wages that I make, I can't afford private health care.

I don't believe health care should be inaccessible to someone just because they are poor. So yes, I totally support a government health care system (tho I'm not particularly fond of Obama-Care, but that's a debate for another time).

 

[Lantern Venom]

I'm trying to take in no more than 1800 calories a day, and if I have 2000 calories or more I consider it a bad day. This guy though-- freakin' Freud that's a lot of food. Who the heck is paying for all that? Doesn't the government ever audit his spending if he's bottom feeding off of the welfare system? If this were America he would run out of food stamps pretty quick.

That will be a big question to answer in his recovery process. He has obviously had enablers for a long time. The people around him need counseling on how to restrain themselves from being goaded into feeding him.

 

[Timstuff]

True. In almost every instance where someone turns into a human-looking Jabba the Hutt, it's because they're surrounded by people who are too wimpy to say "no more food for you, fatty!" when they start whining about being hungry and being too lazy to get their own food. You can't get so fat that you can't walk unless you have no need move your body, and for that to happen you need lots of enablers around to make your dream a reality.

 

[Hound55]

England is terrible when it comes to accomodating free loaders. America isn't quite as bad yet, but depending on how this next election goes we might be catching up really soon.

???

Interesting choice of words.

America would be the most conservative nation in the Western world and leads the way with "F*** the poor" philosophy.

Obama may be a fair shift back towards the middle (perhaps to the left if he gives up his thoughts that he can "work with" the right wing nut-jobs on the other side and gets more forceful with his own political beliefs) but your choice of words suggests that your government is right up there in trms of distributing hand-outs.

The reality is you're far from it.

The courts do more in terms of accommodating free-loaders and rewarding stupidity than your government depts do...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Bolded = So could someone who smokes themselves into lung cancer - so wouldn't they be eligible for surgery too? I mean, if I am paying taxes into health care, I'd want access to any surgeries that I might need, self inflicted or not.

Well they are paying taxes. They are contributing to "national insurance" (we have income tax and national insurance". And let's not mince words here. Do you know how much money the government makes off cigarettes? A pack of 20 cost about 5-6 quid over here. They should actually only cost about 3 quid, but the government makes about 3 quid for every pack of 20 that is bought.

This fat bastard? He ain't contributing nothing to no one.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Well they are paying taxes. They are contributing to "national insurance" (we have income tax and national insurance". And let's not mince words here. Do you know how much money the government makes off cigarettes? A pack of 20 cost about 5-6 quid over here. They should actually only cost about 3 quid, but the government makes about 3 quid for every pack of 20 that is bought.

This fat bastard? He ain't contributing nothing to no one.

20,000 calories of (according to the article) a "junk food diet"? He is making Hershey's and Frito-Lay rich.

It is things like this that are causing the US Gov to consider raising the tax on junk food ( twinkie tax) like they did on cigs.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea, they should then.

You wanna be a lazy, obese person? Fine, you're gonna have to pay for it.

 

[Hound55]

Yea, they should then.

You wanna be a lazy, obese person? Fine, you're gonna have to pay for it.

Absolutely they should.

Just like cigarettes, poor eating habits factors heavily onto the public health care system.

 

[Lantern Venom]

]True. In almost every instance where someone turns into a human-looking Jabba the Hutt, it's because they're surrounded by people who are too wimpy to say "no more food for you, fatty!" when they start whining about being hungry and being too lazy to get their own food.[/B] You can't get so fat that you can't walk unless you have no need move your body, and for that to happen you need lots of enablers around to make your dream a reality.

I find these situations akin to parenting. Giving a child every toy or piece of candy they see isn't good for them. That will make them a spoiled brat who doesn't appreciate anything. The same goes for enabling. This guy needs people who will be his supports in the coming months. That might not be easy for them when he starts begging for food but if they love him, they'll do what it takes to help him get healthy.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Absolutely they should.

Just like cigarettes, poor eating habits factors heavily onto the public health care system.

I don't have a problem with junk food being taxed carefully. I just hope the GOV doesn't overdo it and cost workers jobs.

 

[Hound55]

I don't have a problem with junk food being taxed carefully. I just hope the GOV doesn't overdo it and cost workers jobs.

A sales tax on these goods rather than taxing the producers.

The burden is already on these companies to let consumers know about the harm of their products (particularly cigarettes), I fail to see why the company should be punished a second time.

A sales tax which the consumers eat (*GUFFAW*)is far less likely to have adverse effects to the economy and the job market.

 

[Lantern Venom]

A sales tax on these goods rather than taxing the producers.

The burden is already on these companies to let consumers know about the harm of their products (particularly cigarettes), I fail to see why the company should be punished a second time.

A sales tax which the consumers eat (*GUFFAW*)is far less likely to have adverse effects to the economy and the job market.

That is what is being proposed but it still needs careful consideration. If soda prices increase from $1.09 a bottle to $1.29 a bottle, that likely won't hurt sales. If it increases by .79 cents a bottle like the cig tax, that might create a financial hardship for the companies.