Fav.Overall Batman fights!?

[TX85]

Out of every movie,Which movie do you think had best overall Batman fights(full-scenes/fight styles/amount of a$$ kicking/look&feel),Mine would be in order.....

#1-Batman Forever.
#2-Batman Returns.
#3-Batman'89.
#4-The Dark Knight.
#5-Batman&Robin.
#6-Batman Begins.
#7-Batman 60's movie.
#8-Batman 1950's serial.
#9-Batman 1940's serial.

 

[echostation]

Batman 89 fight scenes were friggin idiotic... the Big black guy with the steroids as a completely lame thug beating up the most well trained fighter on the planet? that's just idiotic

 

[TX85]

Maybe he was not the"best trained fighter on the planet"in Burton's universe!?,Batman has got his ass kicked before in the comics(not thugs But still),And perhaps he was hurt after he had a plane crash!?.

 

[Smalley]

Returns for the craziness and TDK for the sheer exhilaration.

 

[Cain]

Batman Forever. The only thing Shumacher has over the other WB Batman movie directors.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Maybe he was not the"best trained fighter on the planet"in Burton's universe!?,Batman has got his ass kicked before in the comics(not thugs But still),And perhaps he was hurt after he had a plane crash!?.

Well... actually he did.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Batman Forever. The only thing Shumacher has over the other WB Batman movie directors.

Agreed.

 

[El Payaso]

Batman 89 fight scenes were friggin idiotic... the Big black guy with the steroids as a completely lame thug beating up the most well trained fighter on the planet? that's just idiotic

Was it as 'idiotic' as having a man trained to fight literally "600 men" being beaten by one regular-sized man in make-up?

That said, was it stated in the movie that Batman was "the most well trained fightwer on the planet"?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Fights in Batman movies are never anything special. Neither Burton, Schumacher or Nolan are action directors, and none of them are really intrested in action. It's odd to note that so many superhero movies have directors who are not really into action; Bryan Singer, John Favreau, Richard Lester...it's only really Sam Raimi, Del Toro, Steven Norrington and Richard Donner who have embraced that element of the genre.

 

[Elevator Man]

Fights in Batman movies are never anything special. Neither Burton, Schumacher or Nolan are action directors, and none of them are really intrested in action. It's odd to note that so many superhero movies have directors who are not really into action; Bryan Singer, John Favreau, Richard Lester...it's only really Sam Raimi, Del Toro, Steven Norrington and Richard Donner who have embraced that element of the genre.

Actually Singer is into action. Eventhough I'm not a big fan of his X-men movies or action scenes in those movies but a lot of people were ticked at Superman Returns for the limited amount of action scenes that Singer presented. The reason for it (other than it being a Superman movie) is b/c all the action scenes he presented in X2. So I disagree eventhough I think his X-men action scenes need a lot of work.

BTW, Lester's cut for SII had more action scenes than Donner's cut did. Yeah I know Donner's cut was still incomplete. But that's a fact.

STM didn't have a lot of action scenes either. The only reason you put Donner in that list b/c of the Lethal Weapon movies. At least that's what I think anyway .

 

[Spoonman]

Batman Forever, no contest for me.

 

[Panthro]

Batman 89 fight scenes were friggin idiotic... the Big black guy with the steroids as a completely lame thug beating up the most well trained fighter on the planet? that's just idiotic

As a kid that ticked me off. Now? Now I find it funny that Batman, supposedly the best trained fighter who ever lived, got his ass kicked by a guy who looked like an overweight version of Ray Charles.

Batman Forever had very powerful and energetic fights, no one can deny that. Nolan's fight scenes are fine but sometimes the editing isn't as strong as it should be.

 

[El Payaso]

As a kid that ticked me off. Now? Now I find it funny that Batman, supposedly the best trained fighter who ever lived, got his ass kicked by a guy who looked like an overweight version of Ray Charles.

Yeah, it's like a super-powered Spiderman had troubles with an overweight man like Kingpin...

hey wait!

 

[Macphisto]

Nolan's fight scenes are fine but sometimes the editing isn't as strong as it should be.

The editing is the least of its problems. The fight choreography is quite frankly awful.

Block. Elbow. Throw.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[Panthro]

Yeah, it's like a super-powered Spiderman had troubles with an overweight man like Kingpin...

hey wait!

The Kingpin has nigh superhuman strength. What was the Ray Charles lookalike's excuse?

 

[El Payaso]

The Kingpin has nigh superhuman strength. What was the Ray Charles lookalike's excuse?

Wrong. "The Kingpin has no superhuman powers. However, he is incredibly strong and durable, possessing remarkable strength concealed by his somewhat corpulent appearance." "he is almost as strong as it is physically possible for an ordinary human to be." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingpin_(comics))

So Kingpin is only human but he has trained. Spiderman, on the other hand, is the one with superhuman strength. So, what's his excuse?

Kingpin just happens to have trained a lot and has more strength than most people. Just like that Joker's thug.

Thinking that no man can be stronger than Batman is just as stupid as thinking that Kryptonite shouldn't be deadly for Superman because he's just the most powerful being ever.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Does anyone have links to the Batman Forever fight scenes. I don't remember them being any good.

 

[Draven]

Batman Forever

 

[Panthro]

Wrong. "The Kingpin has no superhuman powers. However, he is incredibly strong and durable, possessing remarkable strength concealed by his somewhat corpulent appearance." "he is almost as strong as it is physically possible for an ordinary human to be." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingpin_(comics))

So Kingpin is only human but he has trained. Spiderman, on the other hand, is the one with superhuman strength. So, what's his excuse?

Kingpin just happens to have trained a lot and has more strength than most people. Just like that Joker's thug.

Thinking that no man can be stronger than Batman is just as stupid as thinking that Kryptonite shouldn't be deadly for Superman because he's just the most powerful being ever.

It's still a dumb, poorly staged fight, ranking next to the similarly dumb, poorly staged fight between Sean Connery and Pat Roch in "Never Say Never Again" as one of the worst fights ever put on celluloid.

 

[El Payaso]

It's still a dumb, poorly staged fight, ranking next to the similarly dumb, poorly staged fight between Sean Connery and Pat Roch in "Never Say Never Again" as one of the worst fights ever put on celluloid.

So you won't address the fact that the only stupid thing you could articulate about the fight was not an inch more stupid than many other things in the world of comics? Poorly staged opinion.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Actually Singer is into action. Eventhough I'm not a big fan of his X-men movies or action scenes in those movies but a lot of people were ticked at Superman Returns for the limited amount of action scenes that Singer presented. The reason for it (other than it being a Superman movie) is b/c all the action scenes he presented in X2. So I disagree eventhough I think his X-men action scenes need a lot of work.

BTW, Lester's cut for SII had more action scenes than Donner's cut did. Yeah I know Donner's cut was still incomplete. But that's a fact.

STM didn't have a lot of action scenes either. The only reason you put Donner in that list b/c of the Lethal Weapon movies. At least that's what I think anyway .

Bryan Singer is not into action. He's primarily a thriller director. It's often debated how much, and how many of the action scenes in the X-Men movies he actually shot himself. Certainly the second unit were involved heavily with those.

Lester's version of Superman II has more visual gags during the action, I wouldn't say there is more action. Regardless, most of the action was written and storyboarded when Donner was onboard. And how can you say Donner is not an action man? He inserted a routine car chase in Superman the Movie just because he likes that sort of thing. I put Donner in the list because he as the first person to bring the epic scale superheroics to the screen. The entire last twenty minutes of Superman is a series of last-minute rescues, and then Superman II is Zod and co destroying everything throughout the movie until the huge battle, still unmatched in any film, at the climax. Lester came and shot some new inserts for that battle, but they were mainly visual jokes.

 

[Gotham22]

1. Batman Forever
2. Batman Returns
3. Batman&Robin
4. Batman'89
5. The Dark Knight
6. Batman Begins
7. Batman The Movie

 

[Elevator Man]

Bryan Singer is not into action. He's primarily a thriller director. It's often debated how much, and how many of the action scenes in the X-Men movies he actually shot himself. Certainly the second unit were involved heavily with those.

Lester's version of Superman II has more visual gags during the action, I wouldn't say there is more action. Regardless, most of the action was written and storyboarded when Donner was onboard. And how can you say Donner is not an action man? He inserted a routine car chase in Superman the Movie just because he likes that sort of thing. I put Donner in the list because he as the first person to bring the epic scale superheroics to the screen. The entire last twenty minutes of Superman is a series of last-minute rescues, and then Superman II is Zod and co destroying everything throughout the movie until the huge battle, still unmatched in any film, at the climax. Lester came and shot some new inserts for that battle, but they were mainly visual jokes.

About second unit, you can say that about every director, e.g Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Richard Donner, J.J.Abrams, Paul Verhoeven, James Cameron, and so on and so forth. The second unit director is always heavily involved with the action scenes. I never heard people debate about whether Singer actually directed the action scenes in his X-men movies.I guess you mean X-men fans are debating that. I don't know why someone would debate about that since every director that doesn't do the second unit directing should get the same treatment as Singer.

The Donner cut did not have the Eifel Tower action sequence at the beginning or the action sequence in Superman's fortress towards the end. Lester and the producers added those in there. So Lester's cut does have more action scenes. That's a fact. Look I know that Donner's cut wasn't complete. So we don't know what he would've done if he wasn't fired. With that said Lester's cut had more action than Donner's cut of Superman II.

BTW,I find that funny how you talk about the last 20 minutes of STM being last minute rescues as if they were action scenes (which they are), but can't do the same for Singer's SR. In which the third act is made up of last minute rescues which are action sequences as well, IMO. Yet you say Singer is not into action but Donner is ? Donner's Superman punched as much people in STM as Singer's Superman in SR. Which is nobody. That's another fact.

Another thing we're going to have to agree to disagree, b/c this is suppose to be about the action scenes of the Batman movies and not about Singer and Donner being capable of directing action scenes. So this is the end of it for me.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Definitely not the ones in TDK, except for the parking lot scene. I love the kinetic feel of the BB fights though, wish Nolan had continued that style.

Now the B89 cathedral fight is classic, come on.

 

[Mace Dolex]

In Batman '89 I still get a kick out of Batman fighting that one thug with the swords, all the frenetic sparks flying about and then Batman lays him down with one kick, AWESOME.