Feats of Strenght!

[Sava]

still sucked

 

[DACMAN]

Well it did nearly kill Supes remember, anyway i love that scene.

That's because of the kyrptonite, not the weight of the island. I too loved that scene. It was easily my favorite scene.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Did you like the movie in general DACMAN, i ****ing loved it, and i cant believe the negativity on the SR boards. Thats were i have been spending most of my time recently and you get jumped for saying ANYTHING positive.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

still sucked

You should watch SR again Sava, like Hulk does, it improves over several viewings.

 

[DACMAN]

Yeah, I liked it alot. Out of all five Superman films, the second is still my favorite.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I never really got into the Reeve Superman movies, but the new one just totally connected with me.

 

[DACMAN]

Really?! I can understand 3 and 4. But 1 and 2? I loved 2 so much. It's still one of the best comic book movies after 20 years. The only comic book fight scene that has out done Supes 2 has been Doc Ock vs Spidey IMO. It only took 20 years to do so though...

 

[Gamma Burst]

What a great thread

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Really?! I can understand 3 and 4. But 1 and 2? I loved 2 so much. It's still one of the best comic book movies after 20 years. The only comic book fight scene that has out done Supes 2 has been Doc Ock vs Spidey IMO. It only took 20 years to do so though...

Even the first 2 i cant get into, they are just cornyness personified, i have a lot of respect for them and Reeve, but i would never buy them on DVD, and i thought Terence Stamp as Zod was ridiculous. But SR got rid of most of the cornyness and replaced it with serious emotion.

 

[afan]

Re. Feats of Strength.......

To visually impress an audience one must consider the scale between the Hulk and the object he is lifting. Sure if he is lifting a mountain he is lifting an incredible weight, but visually it's boring. The audience either sees the mountain(Hulk is to small to be seen) or The Hulk(mountain is to big). To successfully demonstrate the power of the Hulk show him effortlessly tossing objects that are recognizably heavy(tanks, etc.), but are in a size parameter that permits both Hulk and object to occupy the screen at the same time.

Also don't have a "Kong-Hulk". In Lee's Hulk, the size of the hulk in proportion to the tanks he attacks made his tank toss less awe inspiring.

 

[DACMAN]

They could do a camera zoom in or out. To show the size of the mountain compared to the HULK.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They could do a camera zoom in or out. To show the size of the mountain compared to the HULK.

Yeah, like they did with Supes and New Krypton in SR.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Re. Feats of Strength.......

To visually impress an audience one must consider the scale between the Hulk and the object he is lifting. Sure if he is lifting a mountain he is lifting an incredible weight, but visually it's boring. The audience either sees the mountain(Hulk is to small to be seen) or The Hulk(mountain is to big). To successfully demonstrate the power of the Hulk show him effortlessly tossing objects that are recognizably heavy(tanks, etc.), but are in a size parameter that permits both Hulk and object to occupy the screen at the same time.

Also don't have a "Kong-Hulk". In Lee's Hulk, the size of the hulk in proportion to the tanks he attacks made his tank toss less awe inspiring.

I thought it was totally awe inspiring, i friggin love that scene!

 

[James"007"Bond]

It kills me that the studio's and directors wont take chances by portraying the charcters like they are in the comics.They think that the public wont accept it,but what they dont understand is,thats exactly what the public wants...stay true to the source.

My friend, I share your frustration. Studios just don't get it but with MS making TIH I'd be seriously shocked if they screwd things up. This is a chance to do what the film makers weren't t liberty to do before.

or have the HULK slam the ground during a fight with Abom showing dirt rock and tree being lifted from the ground because of the impact. Then swith to a scene in China where it's a peaceful, calm, quiet night. Then all the sudden every car alarm goes off along with a few broken windows from the impact.

I'd be hapy with this.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Let me ask you this then, do you think Wolverine's yellow costume would have worked in the movies?

 

[DACMAN]

Do you think Spider-Man's red and blue tights would? You were not here back in the day before we saw the first pictures of his costume when EVERYONE went on and on about how they'd have to change it because it would look terrible. They didn't change it and it looks great. Because they did it right. Yes, I think they could have done the yellow costume, it would have taken obviously more work then they wanted to put it or they would have done it. Just because they didn't have the creativity to pull it off doens't mean it couldn't have been done. If James Cameron had done Spider-Man, we'd all have seen two movies with totally different costumes. But, fortunitily they hired a Spidey fan.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Sorry Dacman but Wolverine's costume would have looked ridiculous in that colour, no matter HOW they would have done it.

I mostly agree that they should keep things from the comics as much as possible, but also, some things NEED to be changed. Another example is X3 though the movie was a poor adaptation of the Pheonix Saga, i never wanted the Shi'ar to turn up and fight the X-Men on the moon!!!!

 

[DACMAN]

Yeah, I can agree somethings need changed. They certainly can't have the sercrete wars in Spider-Man 3. But I really believe if you put the time and effort into making a real version of Wolverine's costume (and if not the yellow one, they could have EASILY done the black and orange one) you could make an excellent yellow version. I think you'd have to dull the yellow and do something with the black things on his head, but it could be done. Spider-Man's costume had little changes, such as the raised webbing and such. Yet it stayed totally true to it's source.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Spiderman's costume, IMO at least, was never really ridiculous though, i'm they changed Doc Ock's though, yellow and bright green wouldnt have worked either IMO.

 

[Ions]

Yeah, I can agree somethings need changed. They certainly can't have the sercrete wars in Spider-Man 3. But I really believe if you put the time and effort into making a real version of Wolverine's costume (and if not the yellow one, they could have EASILY done the black and orange one) you could make an excellent yellow version. I think you'd have to dull the yellow and do something with the black things on his head, but it could be done. Spider-Man's costume had little changes, such as the raised webbing and such. Yet it stayed totally true to it's source.

I totally agree, it was poor imagination and old fashioned thinking that made them decide not to even bother with costumes. I think the public would accept them in their outfits. Just because some horrible cosplay and rental outfits look lame doesn't mean a talented clothes designer couldn't achieve a believeable and faithful adaption. Every time someone scoffs at X-men costumes, all you have to do is point to Spider-man. Full costume, and billions in profit. Speaks for itself.
I wonder if X-men could be more successful if the film makers weren't so concerned with elevating it above the superhero genre and making it seem more "realistic", and instead just made a good movie based off the comics. As it is, just a fantasy film using the existing franchise to boost box office.
I've said this before about this topic, but for Raimi to make Spider-man 2, and make me love it, even though I f*****g hate Spider-man. Genius.
Same for Sin City, totally brought the comic to life(including framing it off the comic panels), and that was successful as well.
I'm sick of this comic fans self conscious "we have to make it realistic or nobody will like it" garbage. Spider-man has proven that a poor line of thinking.
[Ions disengages rant mode]

 

[DACMAN]

Spiderman's costume, IMO at least, was never really ridiculous though, i'm they changed Doc Ock's though, yellow and bright green wouldnt have worked either IMO.

And then we have

And Ock's changed "costumes" his entire run. From the classic green and yellow, to Larsen's suit, Jenkins trench coat, to just just his lab coat.

 

[DACMAN]

Double post baby!

 

[Sava]

Wolverine's costume is way too ridicules for the big screen

 

[DACMAN]

No, your creativity is way to small to have been able to adapt it. Much like Singer's.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And then we have

And Ock's changed "costumes" his entire run. From the classic green and yellow, to Larsen's suit, Jenkins trench coat, to just just his lab coat.

As I've said, its never looked ridiculous, sure the 70's one does now, but i bet it didnt back then. Plus, Spidey is meant to be a light character, cracking jokes while fighting bad guys.

Wolverine is TOTALLY different, he is dark, brooding, bad tempered, will kill anyone if he has to, and is generally and mean customer. Does that sound like someone who would were a bright yellow and bright blue costume, NO. As Sava said, it would look ridiculous.