Fights that just didn't work for you

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It was more a psychological conflict than a physical one. And it didn't feel like Lee even wanted it in there.

That it was, it wasnt meant to be a slug-fest it was all about the symbolism of Hulk's unlimited power.

Agreed, especially the finale. I can barely watch it. Only six X-Men? No Nightcrawler, no Jubilee, no Rogue, Angel shows up and doesn't do anything past saving his dad. And there's no strategy to the fight, no tactics, no continuity. There's no plausible way that the six of them can hold off Magneto's whole army, except that they just...do. I keep coming up with ideas to make that whole movie better, ever since the first time I saw it.

IMO nothing would make that movie better except erasing it from memory and re-making it. People always go on saying the action scene's are what saved X3, I thought they were just as bad as the rest of the movie.

Hulk vs. the army in Ang Lee's Hulk.
I know people enjoy it and all, but it's so restrained. The filmmakers don't allow Hulk to kill or seriously injure anybody, because they think if he does he won't be the hero anymore.

The Hulk VERY RARELY kills or injures normal human beings, so they got that spot on, him killing human in TIH wasnt actually faithful to the comics. The fight with the army was spot on with the comics in Ang Lee's Hulk though.

 

[[A]]

Really? He rarely kills..?

 

[[A]]

Chris in all fairness, Less than 5% of all comic book fights are satisfactory IN the comics, let alone in their movie translations. You're better off doing a thread about the ones that do work instead of the ones that don't.

..you know his work is to show us the dark/down side of things

 

[November Rain]

Hmm. i Never thought of chris as a pessimist.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Really? He rarely kills..?

Yep, especially in his older incarnations. Villains, maybe, but not innocent humans or soldiers just doing their jobs.

 

[[A]]

Hmm. i Never thought of chris as a pessimist.

no, that'd be S. Grundy

Yep, especially in his older incarnations. Villains, maybe, but not innocent humans or soldiers just doing their jobs.

hmm by older you mean the first ones, right? I might be a bit confused t:

 

[Franklin Richards]

Dr. Doom vs The Thing


FF1


I'll admit my expectations for this fight were WAY too high. But then let's take into account these are my two alltime favorite. My hero vs My villain.

The fight was good. And to see these guys goin' at it made me smile. I guess I wanted more strength feats. And Doom or Ben going through the floors of the Baxter Building would have been a classic move.


Anwho. I just wanted more.

 

[Vile]

if spidey killed otto with one punch would't that make for a dul movie?

Read the comic books.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

no, that'd be S. Grundy

hmm by older you mean the first ones, right? I might be a bit confused t:

Mostly yes, but even in the likes of Planet Hulk, he never killed any intelligent creatures, hell even the Red King didnt die by Hulk's hand.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Really? He rarely kills..?

I'd say he unintentionally kills from time to time. He's out to neutralize the threat that you pose. Sometimes his actions are more than a normal human being can survive.

 

[CFE]

In terms of my least favorite fight in a comic book film period...

Cap vs. The Red Skull in the finale of 1990's "Captain America." It's long, drawn out...It's editing is nauseating...And a big chunk of it is the Skull hurling machine gun fire at Cap (shouldn't he be running out of ammo? Honestly, how many clips would he have on him?) and Cap routinely hurling his sheild in retaliation (Which the Skull easily ducks from EVERY SINGLE TIME. But how couldn't he dodge a big, dopey and clunky red, white and blue monstrosity...or his sheild, Ba-ZING!).

As far as anti-climatic fights...The Punisher vs. Howard Saint. Which wasn't even a fight at all, but I felt there should've been more to it.

And fights that had potential and were wasted...Wolverine vs. Juggernaut (X3), Spider-Man vs. Venom (SM3), and The Fantastic Four vs. Doctor Doom (FF1).

 

[Keymaker]

I'm surprised to see some of the fights I thought were good in this thread...it seems we can come to a conclusion that all comic movie fights suck and none have lived up to the potential

 

[November Rain]

the spidey/harry fight probably best lives up to a scene they'd draw in a comic book

 

[[A]]

I'd say he unintentionally kills from time to time. He's out to neutralize the threat that you pose. Sometimes his actions are more than a normal human being can survive.

Mostly yes, but even in the likes of Planet Hulk, he never killed any intelligent creatures, hell even the Red King didnt die by Hulk's hand.

Cool, thanks for the tips. I haven't read Planet Hulk ..

 

[Chris Wallace]

the spidey/harry fight probably best lives up to a scene they'd draw in a comic book

The first one, you mean?

 

[November Rain]

yah

 

[Chris Wallace]

In many ways, that fight felt the most Spidey-like of all, especially with Peter flipping all over the wall & more offensive use of webbing.

 

[I Am The Knight]

The Peter Vs Harry fight in SM3 is probably the greastest comic book fight put to film. Runner ups obviously are Spidey vs Doc Ock in SM2 and Hulk vs ABOMINATION!

 

[WarBlade]

I've done a bit of reinactment fighting in my time and have waved various short swords, long daggers, saexes etc. in the process...

The scene that really pisses me off is Blade versus Deacon Frost, with the pair of them scraping the leading edges of their blades together in a quick frenzy of... light catching? Blade sharpening? Buggered if I know what that was, but fighting IT WAS NOT!

What's worse is there are people who actually think that crap looked cool.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I didn't care. Frost wasn't much of a swordsman& given that he was already invincible, it was just a show for Blade's benefit.

 

[Chris Wallace]

The Peter Vs Harry fight in SM3 is probably the greastest comic book fight put to film. Runner ups obviously are Spidey vs Doc Ock in SM2 and Hulk vs ABOMINATION!

I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching Hulk vs Abomination. But I think Nightcrawler vs Secret Service deserves a spot right up there with the others you mentioned.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching Hulk vs Abomination. But I think Nightcrawler vs Secret Service deserves a spot right up there with the others you mentioned.

Oh yes. Forgot about that one.

 

[CFE]

I've done a bit of reinactment fighting in my time and have waved various short swords, long daggers, saexes etc. in the process...

The scene that really pisses me off is Blade versus Deacon Frost, with the pair of them scraping the leading edges of their blades together in a quick frenzy of... light catching? Blade sharpening? Buggered if I know what that was, but fighting IT WAS NOT!

What's worse is there are people who actually think that crap looked cool.

Well seeings how films of this sub genre are more about visual stimulation and less about physics or how things are actually supposed to work...that 'crap' did look awesome.

I swear, when people start complaining about lack of human logic in these films, it gets ridiculous.

I don't care if how the Death Star bew up couldn't possibly happen in space...it looks and sounds AWESOME.

I don't care of you can't turn the world the other way and cause it to 'rewind' existence.

And I certainly don't care about whether or not Blade and Deacon Frost were using swords correctly. They smacked the blade portions together, how incorrect could that have been!?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Well seeings how films of this sub genre are more about visual stimulation and less about physics or how things are actually supposed to work...that 'crap' did look awesome.

I swear, when people start complaining about lack of human logic in these films, it gets ridiculous.

I don't care if how the Death Star bew up couldn't possibly happen in space...it looks and sounds AWESOME.

I don't care of you can't turn the world the other way and cause it to 'rewind' existence.

And I certainly don't care about whether or not Blade and Deacon Frost were using swords correctly. They smacked the blade portions together, how incorrect could that have been!?

I agree with you for the most part.
Although, if you could rewind time by reversing the Earth's rotation, why would it be so selective? This still happened but that didn't.

 

[CFE]

Yeah that thought had crossed my mind. Like...Supes can rewind enough to save Lois, but what about everything else that happened? He just undid all that he did.

So while Lois is sqwuaking about her problems and Supes is moving in to kiss her...the bus is falling off the bridge and the town's being flooded...right?

lol