Transformers Filming has completed

[Backdrifter]

I didn't know Dean Devlin thought the effects of that film were amazing. I wasn't impressed.

Spielberg himself said it is one of the best dinosaur movies ever made...simply because you believed that the creature was real.

 

[Golgo-13]

I wasn't impressed by Godzilla either. And i'm not talking about the story..i mean the effects in general. It was nothing that i would consider ground breaking.

 

[xwolverine2]

I don't believe you. You are trying to convince me that this high budget potential blockbuster film was completed in 3 months? What in the heck is the production team going to do for the next 9 months before the film is released?

ummmm....... have you even heard about GHOSTRIDER?... they finished filming A LOOOOOONG time ago..... and it gets released in 2007.

 

[muscaremy]

haha forgot bout ghost rider....good example

 

[xwolverine2]

haha forgot bout ghost rider....good example

perfect example

 

[Orko Is King]

Think of it this way, these bots have MANY different moving parts of various colors and textures. I'm sure they're harder to aniomate than something like Kong or Gollum where they're essentially one piece.

 

[bluejake01]

I don't believe you. You are trying to convince me that this high budget potential blockbuster film was completed in 3 months? What in the heck is the production team going to do for the next 9 months before the film is released?

You are extremely ignorant about how films are made, aren't you?

 

[bunk]

Think of it this way, these bots have MANY different moving parts of various colors and textures. I'm sure they're harder to aniomate than something like Kong or Gollum where they're essentially one piece.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard whether they'll be using any motion capture for the tf or not?

 

[Theweepeople]

You are extremely ignorant about how films are made, aren't you?

Not really. Speilberg shot War of the Worlds in 6 months with the same budget as Transformers. I just don't believe it will take 9 months to do the CGI since this is a Speilberg produced movie. 3 to 4 months will be used for CGI while the remaining months will be used on marketing. Of course other producers that are not as efficient as Speilberg will take longer to add the finishing touches to their films. By the way, I already knew about Ghost Rider's release date being postponed. Care to tell me something I don't know.

 

[CFlash]

Not really. Speilberg shot War of the Worlds in 6 months with the same budget as Transformers. I just don't believe it will take 9 months to do the CGI since this is a Speilberg produced movie. 3 to 4 months will be used for CGI while the remaining months will be used on marketing. Of course other producers that are not as efficient as Speilberg will take longer to add the finishing touches to their films. By the way, I already knew about Ghost Rider's release date being postponed. Care to tell me something I don't know.

In all fairness, I'm sure a large chunk of War of the World's budget went to Cruise. I dunno. Just a guess. But, Transformers doesn't have a single "big" star (blockbuster or indie circuit).

In any case, Hopefully Spielberg needs the extra time to go over Bay's work and fix the crap.

 

[Hotwire]

My post was cloned by mistake.

 

[Hotwire]

Not really. Speilberg shot War of the Worlds in 6 months with the same budget as Transformers. I just don't believe it will take 9 months to do the CGI since this is a Speilberg produced movie. 3 to 4 months will be used for CGI while the remaining months will be used on marketing. Of course other producers that are not as efficient as Speilberg will take longer to add the finishing touches to their films. By the way, I already knew about Ghost Rider's release date being postponed. Care to tell me something I don't know.

Transformers has just slightly more complex CGI than War of the Worlds. Just because Spielberg is involved, doesn't meen it will get done any faster. Think of this as being almost on the same level (quantity)of CGI as anything Pixar has made. And those movies take about a full year to render.

 

[Theweepeople]

In any case, Hopefully Spielberg needs the extra time to go over Bay's work and fix the crap.

Agreed.

 

[Hotwire]

In any case, Hopefully Spielberg needs the extra time to go over Bay's work and fix the crap.

Well, I do believe that the producers are the one's with final editing say-so. I mean, if it was the director, we wouldn't get "Director's Cut" versions on DVD.

 

[bluejake01]

Transformers has just slightly more complex CGI than War of the Worlds. Just because Spielberg is involved, doesn't meen it will get done any faster. Think of this as being almost on the same level (quantity)of CGI as anything Pixar has made. And those movies take about a full year to render.

Honestly, render time won't be an issue...With as many farms as they will have cranking away, and the pipeline they have at ILM. The majority of the time will be devoted to seemless intergration of the CG elements. Pixar has an advantage being totally CGI. Compositing this show will be a nightmare, and with the amount of night shots in the script, the lighting physics and shaders will need to be completely rewritten.

 

[bluejake01]

Well, I do believe that the producers are the one's with final editing say-so. I mean, if it was the director, we wouldn't get "Director's Cut" versions on DVD.

It's the editor more often than not that gets the final word...producers may push for a certain running time, but the editor is the one that chooses the frames to include.

 

[PROLIFIK1]

CGI for 9 months? You're kidding right.

Being a computer animation major, you must have no idea how much work is being put into CGI, especially considering this film that involves CGI robots interacting, having action scenes within the whole movie.

Just imagine one person animating a small character doing a 5 minute role. That can take tons of hours broken up into days just to do. Whether it is motion capture or key animating, it is a tedious task that folks with patience can basically endure.

Now put that within a big budget film with advanced hardware and all that junk. Everything needs to be perfect and fluid in terms of motion. That's just tons of work. It makes so much sense to take that long on a film of this caliber.

 

[bluejake01]

Being a computer animation major, you must have no idea how much work is being put into CGI, especially considering this film that involves CGI robots interacting, having action scenes within the whole movie.

Just imagine one person animating a small character doing a 5 minute role. That can take tons of hours broken up into days just to do. Whether it is motion capture or key animating, it is a tedious task that folks with patience can basically endure.

Now put that within a big budget film with advanced hardware and all that junk. Everything needs to be perfect and fluid in terms of motion. That's just tons of work. It makes so much sense to take that long on a film of this caliber.

I work in the film industry, mainly with f/x houses...it never ceases to amaze me how often the fans of f/x heavy films dismiss the amount of hard, tedious work goes into even the smallest sequences.

 

[Backdrifter]

Not really. Speilberg shot War of the Worlds in 6 months with the same budget as Transformers. I just don't believe it will take 9 months to do the CGI since this is a Speilberg produced movie. 3 to 4 months will be used for CGI while the remaining months will be used on marketing. Of course other producers that are not as efficient as Speilberg will take longer to add the finishing touches to their films. By the way, I already knew about Ghost Rider's release date being postponed. Care to tell me something I don't know.

I am fairly certain that WotW only took 3-4 months to shoot. But, Spielberg is very well know for his quick and efficient filmmaking. He has been working with the same production crew for a very long time. So comparing one of the most efficient filmmakers in Hollywood Michael Bay is not exactly fair. In addition, 9 months is probably not enough time to finish the effects shots for the film, if it is indeed as CGI intensive as they say.

So bluejake was right about you. Ignorant.

 

[Theweepeople]

I am fairly certain that WotW only took 3-4 months to shoot. But, Spielberg is very well know for his quick and efficient filmmaking. He has been working with the same production crew for a very long time. So comparing one of the most efficient filmmakers in Hollywood Michael Bay is not exactly fair. In addition, 9 months is probably not enough time to finish the effects shots for the film, if it is indeed as CGI intensive as they say.

I thought we already covered this. If any other movie company was spending this much time to finish the CGI I would not be surprised. But, this is a Spielberg film. The CGI for War of the Worlds took 3 to 4 months to complete while filming took filming took 6 months.

So bluejake was right about you. Ignorant.

So you guys are psychic mind readers now. You're ignorant for thinking I didn't know that the CGI for many films can take over a year.

 

[ragdus]

So what if War of the Worlds CGI took 3 months? This isn't War of The Worlds. There is FAR more animation going into these robots and their many moving parts than any of the War of the Worlds characters.

 

[Backdrifter]

So what if War of the Worlds CGI took 3 months? This isn't War of The Worlds. There is FAR more animation going into these robots and their many moving parts than any of the War of the Worlds characters.

There was more to WotW than just robots. I would say nearly 60-75% of the shots in that film had some kind of effect in them. Not to mention Spielberg's effect shots are are usually long and are of the best quality. I am not discrediting Transformers, because I expect great things, effectswise from this film. But, WotW was had some amazing effects considering the short time frame in which it was produced.

 

[ragdus]

Was I disparaging WotW? Nope. I thought that was an awesome movie. Point is: thinking you can establish a timeframe for this movie's CGI using the fact that Spielberg only took 3 months on WotW is grossly simplifying the matter.

 

[Hotwire]

I work in the film industry, mainly with f/x houses...it never ceases to amaze me how often the fans of f/x heavy films dismiss the amount of hard, tedious work goes into even the smallest sequences.

Not to mention expensive. I'm sure that's why Colossus didn't get more metalic screen time in X2.
I think given the scope of GCI this movie will have, 9 moths in optimistic.
Let's see, we have...
Optimus Prime
Bumblebee
Ironhide
Ratchet
Jazz
Megatron
Starscream
Barricade
Brawl
Frenzy
Blackout
Scorponok
That's 12 major characters! Most Pixar movies don't even have that many, and they take a year or more to make. Now, given that these characters all have to be able to interact with each other and their surroundings, look photorealistic, and make you belive that they are really there with the actors. Again, to me if they can pull it off in 9 months, kudos to them.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

actually there will be 12 months time for the animators to be working on the cgi. do you guys believe that during the thre months of filming the anmators were doing nothing?